Cierra/diabetics/pancreatitics

More than 1 drop please. 3 or 4

 

Royal canine indoor dry has 38% carbs...for once I am glad to see it is high carb.

 

How is the BG now Din?

 

It’s 7.3

 

Not sure because of stress

7.3

may be bcz stress

 

Do you think you could get her to eat some of those lovely high carb dry biscuits for us?
I don't think it is stress for her....maybe you though!

 

What about royal canine diabetes dry ?

 

Not eating anything

 

3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
+3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
+3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
+4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
+4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
+4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
+5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
+6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
+6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
+7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
+7.20 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 5 (90) then 5.6 (101) then 7.2 (130) 5 minutes apart each time. Honey
+ 7.80 (with the 1 unit ) and +6.10 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 7.3 (131)

 

19% carbs.
Maybe 1 drop honey then...Ok?

 

Sorry you mean give her more honey?

 

If she wont eat anything, yes please. I'd rather she ate a few biscuits or canned food but if she wont, than a drop or two of honey..
How does she seem? OK?

 

She looks exhausted

 

Poor baby, hopefully we will be able to leave her alone for a while soon.

 

7.1

 

Have you made yourself a cup of tea of coffee?
How is the baby now?

 

Not even dinner

 

I

Thank you so much Bron , no words how thankful I’m , I couldn’t do this without you…..

baby is sleeping

 

You must eat something!

 

Again 6.8

 

Did you give more honey a few minutes ago?

 

No sorry, I’ll give now

 

7.1
One drop honey
4 biscuits

 

Do you think I had one nadir?

 

It is really hard to tell. The nadirs may not be obvious. We just need to be aware that it is not a normal cycle and it could fluctuate (go up and down) more than usual and it might go up a bit only to go back down..
But she is doing well...thanks to you...you have been amazing

 

7.2

 

3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
+3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
+3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
+4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
+4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
+4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
+5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
+6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
+6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
+7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
+7.20 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 5 (90) then 5.6 (101) then 7.2 (130) 5 minutes apart each time. Honey
+ 7.80 (with the 1 unit ) and +6.10 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 7.3 (131) had honey and 4 biscuits between this test and the next.
+8.50 (with the 1 unit ) and +7 (with the extra 2 units) BG 7.2 (130)

 

7

 

6.6 again

 

will she eat anything? Otherwise 3 drops honey please

 

3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
+3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
+3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
+4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
+4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
+4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
+5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
+6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
+6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
+7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
+7.20 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 5 (90) then 5.6 (101) then 7.2 (130) 5 minutes apart each time. Honey
+ 7.80 (with the 1 unit ) and +6.10 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 7.3 (131) had honey and 4 biscuits between this test and the next.
+8.50 (with the 1 unit ) and +7 (with the extra 2 units) BG 7.2 (130)
+9 (with the 1 unit ) and +7.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 6.6 (119)

 

Din how much do you give when you say it is a drop of honey? is it like as much as your thumb nail, or your little finger nail?

 

6.8

 

Less than Little finger nail

 

I’m taking honey to my second finger

 

OK thanks.

 

What does that mean?

 

I’m taking honey from spoon and use my second finger to take bit, so I assuming it’s around two drops of honey

 

9.7 not sure it’s true figer or not

Bron what can be the side effects of honey?

can it affect to kidney’s or liver ?

 

10.4

 

Lets see what the BG is in a few minutes.
No the honey will not effect the kidneys or liver.
I used to use it when Sheba dropped low.

 

OK...don't give any more honey or food and lets see if she can maintain those numbers
Did you get something to eat for yourself?

 

I’ll eat something. Bron thank you so soo much. No words. Speechless…..

 

I'm just so glad we have got this far and it looks as if she might be on the way back up...lets hope so. Time will tell.
Cierra is a little champion and so are you!

 

she is exhausted and sleeping. Her face and paw stick with honey.

It’s now 11.3 going up like a rocket

 

I don’t see a 2023 ss for Din, @Bron and Sheba (GA)

 

3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
+3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
+3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
+4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
+4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
+4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
+5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
+6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
+6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
+7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
+7.20 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 5 (90) then 5.6 (101) then 7.2 (130) 5 minutes apart each time. Honey
+ 7.80 (with the 1 unit ) and +6.10 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 7.3 (131) had honey and 4 biscuits between this test and the next.
+8.50 (with the 1 unit ) and +7 (with the extra 2 units) BG 7.2 (130)
+9 (with the 1 unit ) and +7.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 6.6 (119)
+9.75 (with the 1 unit ) and +8 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 11.3 (203) No food or honey for 1/2 hour

 

It’s on 2022 , because she started insulin on end of November 2022, I keep continuing same SS

 

It is there Elise but it is not up to date with today's data.
I have asked Bhooma if she can help sort it out. Din has not had time to do any of it tonight, Both she and I have been up all night with Cierra...its after 5am here,. and she is recovering from a caesar and a new baby.
Are you going to be around for a few hours to keep an eye on Cierra?
The BG looks as if it is on the way back up and we have stopped giving any honey or food over 1/2 hour ago.

 

It’s 11.5 now

 

I'm looking for someone to keep an eye on you .
You must be exhausted. Will your husband be home to help you today (Sunday)?

 

Yes Bron, he is at home tomorrow ..you must be exhausted too . I wish I could send you a thank you card. Thank you for everything. God bless you and you and your purr babies….!!!!

 

Oh it’s 8.7 again

 

I am only too glad to be able to help you Din. I hope you can get some rest after all this. We just need to make sure she is definitely on the way back up and not going to drop again. SO we need to watch her for 2 hours after she last ate or had any honey to make sure she can stay up on her own

 

It’s 8.7 again
I’ll keep watching her and I’ll follow steps as you did earlier. You can go to bed Bron

 

This is why we have to watch her closely.
Don't feed her anything yet and lets see if she can stay around this number without dropping further.

 

3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
+3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
+3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
+4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
+4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
+4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
+5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
+6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
+6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
+7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
+7.20 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 5 (90) then 5.6 (101) then 7.2 (130) 5 minutes apart each time. Honey
+ 7.80 (with the 1 unit ) and +6.10 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 7.3 (131) had honey and 4 biscuits between this test and the next.
+8.50 (with the 1 unit ) and +7 (with the extra 2 units) BG 7.2 (130)
+9 (with the 1 unit ) and +7.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 6.6 (119)
+9.75 (with the 1 unit ) and +8 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 11.3 (203) No food or honey for 1/2 hour
+10.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +8.50 (with the extra 2 units) is 8.7 (157) no food or honey given yet

 

Okay Bron

 

I can be available for the next couple of hours.

 

Thank you so much Tiff
BG
11.3

12.8

 

That's good. I hope she starts to stay up.

 

So she has gone back up again. She is doing this a bit Elise ...
Im going to do one more of the BGs so you can work out the times using your time not mine...does that make sense?

 

It is 11:46 a.m. here now if that helps.

 

3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
+3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
+3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
+4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
+4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
+4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
+5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
+6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
+6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
+6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
+7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
+7.20 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 5 (90) then 5.6 (101) then 7.2 (130) 5 minutes apart each time. Honey
+ 7.80 (with the 1 unit ) and +6.10 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 7.3 (131) had honey and 4 biscuits between this test and the next.
+8.50 (with the 1 unit ) and +7 (with the extra 2 units) BG 7.2 (130)
+9 (with the 1 unit ) and +7.35 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 6.6 (119)
+9.75 (with the 1 unit ) and +8 (with the extra 2 units) BG is 11.3 (203) No food or honey for 1/2 hour
+10.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +8.50 (with the extra 2 units) is 8.7 (157) no food or honey given yet
+10.50 (with the 1 unit ) and +8.75 (with the extra 2 units) is 11.3 (203) no food or honey

The last line was done at 11.50 am your time Elise.

 

Yes Vancouver is same as here.

 

Thanks Elise. I hope all is smooth sailing from here.
Din try and get some rest today and get your husband to mind the baby and feed Din.
Dont give any more insulin before asking us what you should do.

 

I changed it to your time. I knew you were on that side of the country and I have Vancouver in my phone

 

BG 14.2

 

Thank you Bron

 

BG 14.8

 

That is very good. Is Din at all hungry? If so you could give a little food. If not test again in 20-30 minutes and see if the bg still stays up. Let me know what you do.

 

BG/14.7

 

Is that with or without food?

 

yes Cierra does not have any food. I’ll check 20./30

 

Without food

 

Very good. The worst might be over. I will be back in 20/30.
Fingers crossed.

 

Have you tested again?

 

Hi Tiff apologies for 1000 times, put my head on table until 30 minutes. Omg I slept till now .

BG IS 20. 4

 

I think you are good. Get a few more hours sleep. I figured you nodded off.

 

Thank you so sooo much for the help, apologising again.

 

Please don’t apologize. I’m happy all is well. You had quite an experience.

 

Hi Din, I hope you have managed to get some sleep.
Would you mind starting a new thread please? You might like to start posting over on the Lantus forum now.
I’ll give you the link.
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/lantus-levemir-biosimilars.9/

 

Yes Bron , I put my head for 20 minutes ( to check next BG) at 6.30 on the table , I woke up at 8.30am. I feel sooo bad . Somehow BG is now around 20 . I will start a new thread. Hope you had a good sleep.

 

Din --

Please do your best to not let your thread get beyond 50 posts. This is the sticky note at the top of the Health board.

 

Okay @Sienne and Gabby (GA) . I’ll make sure it next time.