Cierra/diabetics/pancreatitics

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  1. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Honey should work within about 10 minutes.
    Dont give too much or it might make her sick
     
  2. Din

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    Ok
    okay. It’s now 11.9
     
  3. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    did you give some more food and honey?
     
  4. Din

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    I gave her Royal canine indoor cat dry food
     
  5. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    +3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
     
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  6. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    How much did she eat?
    Give 2 drops of honey on gums as well please.
     
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    On gum or what about if I let her licks, when I put honey on her paw , she is licking
     
  8. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    ok if she is licking it.
    How much dry food did she eat?
     
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    Around 5 biscuits
     
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    Now it’s 11.4
     
  11. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Are you OK...how are you going with this?
     
  12. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Give a bit more honey on leg and a few more dry biscuits or what ever she will eat.
     
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    Really stressed, baby continuely crying………
    Who I can contact in mid night
     
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    +3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205)
     
  15. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Is your husband there to mind the baby?
    Who do you need to contact?
    Please give more honey and food
     
  16. Din

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    It’s 9.2
     
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    One of his friend visited him….so I’m carrying baby
     
  18. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Din, I think you are going to have to take Cierra to the vet as she is starting to drop more quickly now.
    So this is what i want you to do.
    Give her some more honey now and then i will tell you what to do
     
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    Gave her honey again. It’s 9.5 now
     
  20. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I don't think we are going to be able to manage this at home. she is starting to drop more quickly.
    I would get prepared to go anyway even though she has come up a bit.
    Get your husband to ring the vet and tell them you are coming. Tell them Cierra will need to go onto a glucose drip because she got too much insulin.
    when you leave, take the honey with you and keep giving her some on her feet to lick off.
    How far away is the vets?
     
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    It’s 10.3 not sure it because of stress
     
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    It’s 3 minutes 2minuts away from the house.
     
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  23. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Did you ring them to alert them?
    What is BG now?
     
  24. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I doubt stress. Lets see what it is in the next 15 minutes
     
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    No I didn’t ring them
    I’ll call now
    It 10.5
     
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    Okay I’ll check it after 15 minutes
    It is your bed time, who I can contact in forum. I feel bad to keep you awake
     
  27. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Dont worry about that. I'm staying up with you for now. Try and not be too stressed. You are doing an amazing job keeping her safe:bighug:
     
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    It’s 8.5 now
     
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    I’m calling they don’t answer
     
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    +3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205)
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153)
     
  31. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I think you should take her now.
    Can your husband mind the baby?
    give some more honey now..a bit more than you have been.
    Take the honey with you and go to the vet now.

    And please keep me posted.
    Take your phone so you can show them how the BG has been dropping
     
  32. Din

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    I’m not driving, do all of us have to go, yes I’m getting ready to go
     
  33. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Looks like you all have to go! YOu need to go as you know what has been happening.
    Did you give more honey?
     
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    It was 7.7 and now 8.5
     
  35. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Did you give more honey?
    Are you ready to leave to go to the vet?
     
  36. Din

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    Yes gave honey ready to go
     
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    baby Is keep crying, I’ll check BG AFTER 5 minutes to see
     
  38. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Well done! Let me know how you go.
    The reason its starting to really drop now is the 2 units has well and truly kicked in so the effect of the 3 units is being felt now.
    You have done really well tonight.
    PLease give Cierra a cuddle from me
     
  39. Din

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    Thank you so been with us Bron. It’s 8.6.
     
  40. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Always happy to help you Din.:)
    Have you left yet?
     
  41. Din

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    I call emergency number on cierra”s vet place, they wants me to monitor until it drop to 5 . If it’s 5 they going to come to vet place ( it’s 24 hours but they are at home on call)
     
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    It’s 8.2 and gave more biscuits
     
  43. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    OK.
    So 8.2 now. I would give some high carb food and honey now please
    How much is she eating and when did you give honey last?
     
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    3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205)
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153)
    +5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148)
     
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    I put honey on her 12. 15 I think just few biscuits ( she ate her full meal today / but it’s biscuits)
     
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    It’s 9
     
  47. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    I'm not sure what you mean by that...'I put honey on her 12. 15'.
     
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    I gave her honey around 12.15
    She ate her full meal today around 65g of kibbles.
     
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    OK thanks.
    I would see if she will eat a few more kibble now and put some more honey on her leg to lick as well. We want to try and stop the BG dropping any further if we can.
    Keep me updated with BGs ...you are doing a great job!
     
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    Thank you Bron. It’s 8.2
     
  51. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Did you give some kibble and honey? How long ago?
    I would put a few drops of honey on her paw now please
     
  52. Din

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    Okay I’ll do it now
     
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    3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
    +5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey

    Not eating much so honey being given to keep BG from dropping.
     
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  54. Din

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    6.9 giving more honey
     
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  55. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Try some high carb food or kibble as well. We need to stop it from dropping if we can.
    How much honey are you giving?
     
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    3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
    +5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +7 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
     
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    Now she is not licking paw. So I gave around two drp to mouth

    BG 8.5
     
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  58. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Can you get her to eat anything...that would help.
     
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    Giving more biscuits

    7.5
     
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  60. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    let me know how many please:cat:
     
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    Around 8 biscuits
     
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    12 biscuits

    7.4
     
  63. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Is that another 12 biscuits?
     
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    yes Bron
     
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    6.9

    giving 1 drop honey
     
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    3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
    +5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
    +6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
     
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    I would give more honey.
     
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    Done - 6.2
     
  70. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Will she eat any more food. If not I would give another couple drops honey...poor girl she is a real trouper!
     
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    3 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
    +5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
    +6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
    +6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey
     
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    Giving her new can to licking the gravy
     
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    that's good. what is the food?
     
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    Fancy feast chicken gravy
     
  75. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    if its not a gravy lovers one it is not high carb. add a bit of honey.
     
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    give several drops of honey
     
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    3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
    +5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
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    6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
    +6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
    +7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
     
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    Usually when I only one dose per day her blood GB go start to go up around 5 am. I hope and wish this will start to go up around 5pm …….
     
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    Dont you mean 5 am not 5 pm.
    With the extra insulin and it given at 2 different times we are looking at 2 nadirs (lowest points in the cycle). So maybe not a typical cycle,
    How are you feeling? Has the baby settled?
     
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    5am , some time starting to go up at 3am. It’s 5 I gave move honey
     
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    Are you saying it has dropped to 5?
    Can you syringe feed some food with honey in it? or will she be sick>
    How much honey did you give?
     
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    5.6
    2 drp
     
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    Shall I give more
     
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    3(with the 1 unit ) and +1.5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 16.2 (292)
    +3.5 (with the 1 unit ) and +1.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 13.6 (245) Gave high carb which she only licked and a couple drops honey
    +3.95 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 12.2 (220) honey
    +4 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.25 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.9 (214) Royal canine indoor cat dry food.. 5 biscuits.
    +4.10 (with the 1 unit ) and +2.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 11.4 (205) honey
    Over next 25 minutes went to 9.2. 9.5, 10.3,
    +4.65 (with the 1 unit ) and +3 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 10.5 (189) then 5 minutes later 8.5 (153) honey
    +5.25 (with the 1 unit ) and +3.75 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +5.40 (with the 1 unit ) and +4 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 8.2 (148) honey
    +6 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.20 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.9 (124) honey + 8 biscuits. 15 mins later 7.5 (135)
    +
    6.30 (with the 1 unit ) and +4.45 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 7.4 (133) then dropped to 6.9 5 mins later! 12 biscuits + drop honey
    +6.45 (with the 1 unit ) and +5 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 6.2 (112) honey + licking gravy
    +7 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.15 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5.9 (106) honey
    +7.20 (with the 1 unit ) and +5.35 (with the extra 2 units) and BG is 5 (90) then 5.6 (101) then 7.2 (130) 5 minutes apart each time. Honey.
     
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  89. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    Oh my goodness....maybe the dry food is kicking in.
    What is the dry food called?
     
  90. Din

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    7.4 again
     
  91. Din

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    According to chart her Nadir around 3 am
     
  92. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    it will most likely bob up and down a bit.
    Did you see my post above asking what the dry food was.?
     
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    Sorry Bron , Royal canine indoor 7+
     
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    That is with a normal dose of insulin. Because you gave two separate doses of the insulin she will have 2 nadirs so it is not going to be like a normal cycle.

    Can you give some more biscuits please?
     
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    I have royal canine Maine coon and royal canine dental, but expired on November …..
     
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    1 drop honey
     
  99. Bron and Sheba (GA)

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    give a bit more honey please
     
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    She is not eating anymore
     
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