Newbie Patty and Blue from Georgia

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I just tested Blue again and it's 594 after giving him 1 unit this morning around 10:30. It just read Hi this morning. Is there anything I can do? He ate wet food this morning before his shot. I didn't put any dry food out for him.
 
Rex2u said:
I'm trying to make it as fun as possible. I have mom come upstairs for a cookout every Sunday. I watch shows with her on certain nights. She's so bored but I can't allow her too many outings. She keeps two cats downstairs but I feed them. I have 6 upstairs. When my daughter first came she had a dog and that was interesting. Sadly Sissy is gone. I think my youngest cat is maybe 12 but I'll have to check. It's hard to keep up. Hope your dog likes cats???
I'll talk to my vet Wednesday and let her know I've decreased the dose. She is nice but young. I normally see the owner vet but he has cut his hours. Maybe I can train the new one :D
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Patty you are doing the right thing by testing . I don’t think your Vet should give you a hard time about it . I would rather know Blues numbers than not . You are doing Great
 
He’s bouncing. That’s likely because if the big drop last night. They bounce when they drop too quorum drop to a bg they haven’t seen in awhile. This is where patience is crucial. Consistent dosing to see what this dose will do. How long you hold the dose will depend upon whether you follow TR or SLGS.
 
tiffmaxee said:
He’s bouncing. That’s likely because if the big drop last night. They bounce when they drop too quorum drop to a bg they haven’t seen in awhile. This is where patience is crucial. Consistent dosing to see what this dose will do. How long you hold the dose will depend upon whether you follow TR or SLGS.
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What is TR? He is scheduled to go to the vet tomorrow for a curve. It really does scare me he is so high all day. The new dry food came in today. The Dr. Elsy's. He likes it. A lot!
 
Dusty & Roe said:
Patty you are doing the right thing by testing . I don’t think your Vet should give you a hard time about it . I would rather know Blues numbers than not . You are doing Great
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Thanks. It may not be what the vet suggested, but for me a must do. I wouldn't know how to treat him and she wanted me to go on blind faith and just give him 2 units of Lantus twice a day. Can you imagine if I had done that? :eek:
 
Tight Regulation is a bit more aggressive approach but if you feed any dry , even low carb, you can’t follow it. Being too high is not good but being too low is much worse because a symptomatic hypo can cause a cat to go into a coma and pass away. We just had a new cat have this happen I think last week. Not a cat that has been DKA can become very sick as well. Some are just prone to it. As long as they get enough insulin, stay well hydrated, and eat enough as well as by testing for it, that won’t happen. You can get strips to check for ketones or a meter that checks the blood for it. Max never had that so I’ll leave those with experience to explain that. I think your vet would have told you if he tested for ketones but that’s something to ask about.
Max only had one curve at the vet and that was after his first shot of Lantus. It wasn’t needed because I tested at home. Max would get stressed at the vet’s office office and would test higher than at home. I know because he was a little high whenever he had blood tests. I would test before a vet appointment and he always was much higher there and using a vet meter was not the reason as he would be in the 50’s here and 100-200 there within maybe 30 minutes.
 
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Briere Fur Mom said:
:bighug::bighug::bighug:It'll be ok. We all want instant results. Lantus doesn't work like that unfortunately. But, with some patience, consistency, testing, appropriate diet and a lil peer support from the board, you can have results that look like our kitties. Take a peek at some of our SSs;)
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Checked out Little Bittles SS and looks like he's in remission? Lots of green. I hope I can get Blue there eventually. One thing I haven't mentioned in this thread is that he received a steroid shot before all this took place. He couldn't get over an upper respiratory infection. I'm hoping when it gets out of his system he'll go into remission, but I'm not sure if it works that way.
 
Oh my goodness, he's 408. I never thought I'd get so excited to be in the 400s. He's eating now, but I had to feed everyone again. The Dr. Elsey's PureProtein dry is a hit and fed American Journey wet. I'm very relieved but I know it will fluctuate. Thanks all for your patience and all the valuable information.
 
tiffmaxee said:
It makes me so angry that your vet didn’t explain how Lantus works or what to expect. I’m so worried your vet will do a curve and tell you to give too much insulin. How long was he on steroid?
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It was a shot and when I asked about it being the cause she said the shot lasted 6 to 8 weeks so it's probably about out but I'm going to check the date. She said it was possible but unlikely to cause and said she did look it up.
I don't think I'll let her change the dose at this point since I know now how it works. I want to give it a couple of weeks to see if it will stabilize. I think she'll agree. I sent her a link to Blue's SS.
 
tiffmaxee said:
One steroid shot makes me think you really need to go slow. If you look at Simon’s spreadsheet you will see he was given too much also.. he had been on steroids for 4 months. She caught that 98 luckily so he never had a hypo. You have lots of questions now to ask your vet now.
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I agree. I will talk with her tomorrow.
Kyle & Simon said:
@Rex2u I am so sorry you have to deal with this! You are in good hands with @tiffmaxee ! She helped me so much. Best of luck to you! :cat:
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Thank you. It's been emotional but wonderful people here helping me understand. I followed you since I think steroids caused my Blue’s diabetes too. Good luck to you.
 
Rex2u said:
I'm trying to make it as fun as possible. I have mom come upstairs for a cookout every Sunday. I watch shows with her on certain nights. She's so bored but I can't allow her too many outings. She keeps two cats downstairs but I feed them. I have 6 upstairs. When my daughter first came she had a dog and that was interesting. Sadly Sissy is gone. I think my youngest cat is maybe 12 but I'll have to check. It's hard to keep up. Hope your dog likes cats???
I'll talk to my vet Wednesday and let her know I've decreased the dose. She is nice but young. I normally see the owner vet but he has cut his hours. Maybe I can train the new one :D
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Missed you and Blue today! My dog was just seven weeks old when he came into a house with seven cats. So he is very well trained, lol. He and Tina literally groom one another and hang close. It's precious. I'm sorry you lost Sissy. I just hate losses, even though the saying, to have loved and lost is better than never having loved at all, pops in my head a lot.

I'm so glad you are learning so much and keeping your precious Blue safe! Those high numbers will come on down, and keeping fingers crossed the steroid shot could be what pushed Blue into diabetes. Meaning upcoming remission like Kyle's Simon. A day at a time -- oops -- a cycle at a time!
 
Tina Marie and Jan said:
Missed you and Blue today! My dog was just seven weeks old when he came into a house with seven cats. So he is very well trained, lol. He and Tina literally groom one another and hang close. It's precious. I'm sorry you lost Sissy. I just hate losses, even though the saying, to have loved and lost is better than never having loved at all, pops in my head a lot.

I'm so glad you are learning so much and keeping your precious Blue safe! Those high numbers will come on down, and keeping fingers crossed the steroid shot could be what pushed Blue into diabetes. Meaning upcoming remission like Kyle's Simon. A day at a time -- oops -- a cycle at a time!
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I'm up early. I'm taking Blue in to vet for a BG curve. I can't even remember what I'm supposed to do. Test him and feed him I think, but I'm off schedule and he can't get a shot until 10. With Covid we can't go inside the animal medical center with our pets. I'm nervous they will give him a shot before time. I'm going to have to stress to person that comes out to the car that he can't have insulin. I wonder if that helps or hurts the main objective...

I love cats that train their dogs. When I see cats and dogs snuggled in pictures online it makes me happy.
My daughter would love to get another dog but I think these seniors would freak.

Off to test and feed. Be back later.
 
Still in the 400s this morning. I'm shocked it has stayed down since his numbers weren't even reading. It's 444 to start the day for his BG curve. I know it's still high but much lower than it's been. 1 unit may work, at least for now. Hope the vet agrees. Thanks to all :bighug:
 
tiffmaxee said:
I’m sorry you didn't ask us yesterday. I wonder if they are doing a curve. They might just shoot early or I guess wait 2 hours to start. Let us know how it went.
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I sure hope they will do the curve. I'm not going to try again if they can't. Last week I was charged but they said it wasn't long enough and bring him in this week. I wish it were easier to communicate with them. I only see the tech when they come to the car but I don't think they know enough to say it won't work if you don't have insulin to start. I got off schedule the other night. YAKKKKKK
 
tiffmaxee said:
Covid makes it so hard! They are right about one thing. It was too soon. I hope they know to shoot 1 unit. This should be the last curve you have them do since you will be testing at home and can send the your spreadsheet. This will be interesting.
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Well, I told the tech 1u and I saw her write it down. She also had a copy of our spreadsheet printed out so they should see I was down from 2u to 1 and his numbers were improving. I'm dying to call to check on him. Haha, I'm so nervous having him out of my sight.
 
tiffmaxee said:
No worries. . One of us will link it for you. I’m glad you are getting much needed rest.[/QUOTE

I just got a call and bottom line is she gave him 2u because he was off the chart high. It's now down in the 200s. She will check him again at 5. I pick him up at 5:30. I asked her for all the numbers so will start a new thread once I get them. I'm concerned because of the huge drop....
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