New Member- Couple of Questions and Concerns

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Hey everyone, we have a newly diagnosed cat who just recently started showing somewhat severe signs diabetic neuropathy, having difficulty even taking a few steps at a time. The thing that makes this especially difficult is it feels like this happened very quickly. She was taken to the vet back in April due to not having a bowel movement for a few days, from there the vet noticed her levels seemed to be a little out of whack. We got her on a hypoglycemic diet in hopes that it would help. When she started displaying symptoms similar to her brother, who was also diagnosed as diabetic 2 years ago and has made great strides to being better, we took her back to the vet to get checked in on, we decided to start her at 2 units of Vetsulin twice a day.

As recently as a month ago, she was making jumps between counter tops and onto beds. We took her back to the vet last Monday where we increased her dosage to 2 units twice a day. And on Friday night, 8/14, she was displaying even more difficulty walking, so much so that we took her to the emergency vet clinic and the vet there felt she may have diabetic neuropathy. While she did say this, she didn’t seem very confident in diagnosis as she hasn’t seen many cases and didn’t offer much in the way of encouragement for prognosis and it makes my wife and I incredibly sad and distraught as she is normally a sweet, playful cat.

We are going to start in home testing as soon as we speak with our normal vet tomorrow and ask about a possible increase in dosage of vetsulin. I have also read a lot about vitamin B12 and when she got her shot at the emergency vet this afternoon it seemed to help out a bit, but as the day wore on, her back legs became wobbly again. I’m so sorry for the long text but she is our sweet little girl and I want her to live a happy, healthy life.

 

[Paula and Rocky]

Hi I'm so sorry your having these issues, I'm not quite experienced enough to give advise but I do know you need to start testing right away. It's just not safe to give insulin with knowing where your kitty's numbers are! I'm sure someone qualified will help you out soon. This site is a life saver and you will learn so much from the wealth of knowledge and experience here.

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

I appreciate the feedback. This is still new and I didn’t realize the potential severity until Peeka started showing signs of neuropathy.

 

[Blackie’s mom]

I appreciate the feedback. This is still new and I didn’t realize the potential severity until Peeka started showing signs of neuropathy.

Hi Peter, my Kitty “Blackie” was diagnosed with diabetes on 8/6, and we started insulin on 8/9. I’m not home testing yet. I feel so sad for you and sure hope your sweet fur baby gets better. I know you must feel so helpless, cause I sure do. I’m doing pretty good with the shots but I’m nervous about the home testing. I think Bkackie’s brother is diabetic, too. I’ve got to get him into the vet this week. I sure wish we had fed our two boys a better diet. Good luck to you!

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

Hi Peter ,welcome to the best place you could be, there are many experienced members here, I really don't know where I would be with out their advice
Just a little something about Vetsulin

Vetsulin
is not always the best insulin for cats since it was developed for dogs or canines, Cats have higher metabolisms than dogs so keep that in mind because there are gentler longer acting insulins like Lantus and prozinc. Vetsulin hits hard and fast so you want to make sure Peeka has eaten at least 30 minutes before the shots.

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

Starting dose of 2 units for vetsulin is a pretty high dose to start with.
I wouldn't ask your normal to increase it
We increase by 0.25 units at a time, not whole units
You may be passing over the correct dose by increase it
Please start home testing, it's very important to make sure Peeka number is safe to shoot
You wouldn't want Peekas to drop very low and cause a hypo.and have her numbers drop to dangerous levels

Most of us use Lantus or Prozinc which are gentler insulin's
That are more expensive but we have places you can get them at much cheaper prices.
Vetsulin doesn't last the full 12 hours

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

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[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

You said you plan on home testing, if your vet tries to make you by a pet meter most likely will be the AlphaTrak , the test strips for 50 are about 54.00
We use human meters such as The Relion Prime or Premier
You can pick them up at Walmart
The Prime is 9 bucks andc17.88 for 100 strips
In the beginning you will go through a lot

Most of us feed Fancy Feast Classics Pate, which are 2-3 percent carbs


https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-chart.174147/

Food chart

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

For the neuropthy we give B-12 Methyl

1. .
   For the neuropathy in the legs this will help more so when you get the diabetes under control
   
   
   Hi my cat had neuropathy, this is what I used and many others members because it's cheaper than Zobaline
   
   Hi Here is the link https://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-vitamin-b-12-methylcobalamin-5000-mcg-100-capsules-6
   
   Alot of members use this , I use it myself you can buy it on line from Vitacost
   Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin -- 5000 mcg - 100 Capsules
   It's 17.99 just be sure this is the one you buy
   The only difference is the Zobaline has 200 mcgs of folic acid
   So I buy the folic acid at the supermarket and crush it up and add it to the B-12
   If you can't find the 200 mcg get the 400 mcg and cut it in half
   The Vitacost brand is a capsule so just open it and pour the powder on the wet food
   Has no taste, no need to crush it up
   The Zobaline is 33.99 for 60 pills, too expensive
   I saw a big improvement I'd say 3 months, could be sooner. One capsule a day
   
   
   Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin -- 5000 mcg - 100 Capsules
   
   • SKU #: 835003001804
   • Shipping Weight: 0.23 lb
   • Servings: 100
   

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/caninsulin-vetsulin-and-n-nph.19/

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/caninsulin-vetsulin-and-n-nph.19/



https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/fdmb-spreadsheet-instructions.130337/

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/understanding-the-spreadsheet-grid.156606/

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

Just keep asking questions

 

[Butters & Lyla]

Hi Peter, welcome. Wish you didn't have to be here, but glad that you are! You will find so much help for you and Peeka.

As Diane and Paula mentioned, you really should be home testing. Here is a link to some home testing tips and tricks. You mention that Peeka's brother has been diabetic for two years, so maybe you're already doing the home testing?

My kitty also has neuropathy. Diagnosed with it when she got her diabetes diagnosis almost three months ago. I thought her neuropathy came on pretty quick, too. She was always down on her haunches and wouldn't stand properly on all four paws for very long.

Every Cat is Different (ECID) in how fast they'll heal. I started to notice mild improvement in my kitty after maybe two months or so. I waited on the B12 because lower blood glucose numbers are also important to helping kitty recover from the neuropathy. I finally bought the B12 Diane recommended to you above, and it has definitely helped. I have been giving it to her daily for around three weeks or so, and she no longer has the same slouchy, saggy rear end . Her jumping has improved, too.

It is a combination of lower blood glucose numbers and B12 that help the neuropathy, so testing Peeka's blood glucose and getting her into better blood glucose numbers is key.

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

Hello Peter! I hear ya! One day my Trouble was walking just fine. Overnight Trouble went to walking on his hocks. He couldnt walk but a couple of steps without resting. Neuropathy can happen over night. Diane (who ROCKS btw) has given you the link to what your kitty can use to help this condition. It does NOT cure on its own. Once kitties gb numbers are lower and more controlled the two work together. I believe it only took a couple of weeks for Trouble BUT ECID (Every Cat Is Different). Not all respond so quickly.

Hey @Diane Tyler's Mom Have I told you lately... YOU ROCK!

Peter you have landed in a safe place. We all strive to give the best advice possible for ANY and ALL that come here seeking answers.

You may want to start here:
New? How You Can Help Us Help You!

Once youve read there if you are interested in going further, you can set up a spreadsheet AND signature. The spreadsheet tracks trends the insulin's job its doing in your cats body.
The signature lets all our helpers see at a glance, all the pertinent information to your kitties issues.Your signature will appear at the bottom of ALL your posts you can find how to do that here:
Suggestions, Tech Support & Testing Area

Again welcome to the best darn site to help you learn everything you need to know about feline diabetes..(soon you will be teaching your vet what you have learned here
jeanne

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Hi Peter, welcome. Wish you didn't have to be here, but glad that you are! You will find so much help for you and Peeka.

As Diane and Paula mentioned, you really should be home testing. Here is a link to some home testing tips and tricks. You mention that Peeka's brother has been diabetic for two years, so maybe you're already doing the home testing?

My kitty also has neuropathy. Diagnosed with it when she got her diabetes diagnosis almost three months ago. I thought her neuropathy came on pretty quick, too. She was always down on her haunches and wouldn't stand properly on all four paws for very long.

Every Cat is Different (ECID) in how fast they'll heal. I started to notice mild improvement in my kitty after maybe two months or so. I waited on the B12 because lower blood glucose numbers are also important to helping kitty recover from the neuropathy. I finally bought the B12 Diane recommended to you above, and it has definitely helped. I have been giving it to her daily for around three weeks or so, and she no longer has the same slouchy, saggy rear end . Her jumping has improved, too.

It is a combination of lower blood glucose numbers and B12 that help the neuropathy, so testing Peeka's blood glucose and getting her into better blood glucose numbers is key.

the at home testing is a must for us for sure. When our first cat, Boo, was DX there was some ups and downs. He also had issues with his rear legs, but nothing ever quite as bad as what we’re currently dealing with with his sister, Peeks. I think the sudden and drastic change is what’s causing the bulk of the anxiety for currently, that and trying to have a brave face for my wife who is 5 months pregnant.

The emergency vet also wasn’t much help yesterday as she had made a comment about diabetic animals being a lot of work and having to take into quality of life considerations as well. But after seeing the improvements Boo has made with his diabetes, I know it’s possible for his sister also.

Currently waiting for a phone call from our primary vet to discuss what we have seen and read here, as well as assistance with at home testing. We got very fortunate with Boo as he seemed to have good reactions with his vetsulin. But like I’ve seen here, ECID. I’ll be sure to update my signature with the pertinent information, and I truly appreciate the welcome we have received here so far. My biggest concerns, outside of getting Peeks glucose levels balances out, are her hind legs because it just seems so much worse than Boo when he had his troubles, but I’m hopeful with the right mix of insulin and B12, we can get her right!

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

Hello Peter! I hear ya! One day my Trouble was walking just fine. Overnight Trouble went to walking on his hocks. He couldnt walk but a couple of steps without resting. Neuropathy can happen over night. Diane (who ROCKS btw) has given you the link to what your kitty can use to help this condition. It does NOT cure on its own. Once kitties gb numbers are lower and more controlled the two work together. I believe it only took a couple of weeks for Trouble BUT ECID (Every Cat Is Different). Not all respond so quickly.

Hey @Diane Tyler's Mom Have I told you lately... YOU ROCK!

Peter you have landed in a safe place. We all strive to give the best advice possible for ANY and ALL that come here seeking answers.

You may want to start here:
New? How You Can Help Us Help You!

Once youve read there if you are interested in going further, you can set up a spreadsheet AND signature. The spreadsheet tracks trends the insulin's job its doing in your cats body.
The signature lets all our helpers see at a glance, all the pertinent information to your kitties issues.Your signature will appear at the bottom of ALL your posts you can find how to do that here:
Suggestions, Tech Support & Testing Area

Again welcome to the best darn site to help you learn everything you need to know about feline diabetes..(soon you will be teaching your vet what you have learned here
jeanne

Aww thank you Jeanne, it just breaks my heart when I read about any kitty that isn't doing well. You Rock yourself, have a good day Jeanne

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

Peeks glucose levels balances out, are her hind legs because it just seems so much worse than Boo when he had his troubles, but I’m hopeful with the right mix of insulin and B12, we can get her right!

You want the Methyl B12 Just to be safe.
and

CONGRATULATIONS !!!!
j

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

You want the Methyl B12 Just to be safe.
and

j

That’s what I’ve been seeing. Someone above posted links for something from Vitacost. If it’s possible to get in stores, I may do that instead, just to try and help along the process. The B12 shot given yesterday helped for a while, but by the night time she was struggling again. Or maybe it’s because I’ve been watching her like a hawk, I’m not sure.

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

That’s what I’ve been seeing. Someone above posted links for something from Vitacost. If it’s possible to get in stores, I may do that instead, just to try and help along the process. The B12 shot given yesterday helped for a while, but by the night time she was struggling again. Or maybe it’s because I’ve been watching her like a hawk, I’m not sure.

I use to be able to get it from our local health food store. Its been many years since I've had a diabetic kitty Trouble passed away in 2010.

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

I use to be able to get it from our local health food store. Its been many years since I've had a diabetic kitty Trouble passed away in 2010.

I’m so sorry about Trouble. Trouble had good and caring parents.

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

I’m so sorry about Trouble. Trouble had good and caring parents.

I celebrate Trouble as he led me here. I'm paying it forward because I remember how scared I was. Everyone here was so kind and patient. They took the time and energy all the way, to when Trouble went *OTJ. If I hadnt listened to the good folks here he would have passed sooner.

*OTJ= Off the juice meaning insulin.

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

I celebrate Trouble as he led me here. I'm paying it forward because I remember how scared I was. Everyone here was so kind and patient. They took the time and energy all the way, to when Trouble went *OTJ. If I hadnt listened to the good folks here he would have passed sooner.

*OTJ= Off the juice meaning insulin.

I definitely appreciate you helping out! I’m sure everyone here has dealt with the stress and anxiety I’m currently feeling.

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Jus

the at home testing is a must for us for sure. When our first cat, Boo, was DX there was some ups and downs. He also had issues with his rear legs, but nothing ever quite as bad as what we’re currently dealing with with his sister, Peeks. I think the sudden and drastic change is what’s causing the bulk of the anxiety for currently, that and trying to have a brave face for my wife who is 5 months pregnant.

The emergency vet also wasn’t much help yesterday as she had made a comment about diabetic animals being a lot of work and having to take into quality of life considerations as well. But after seeing the improvements Boo has made with his diabetes, I know it’s possible for his sister also.

Currently waiting for a phone call from our primary vet to discuss what we have seen and read here, as well as assistance with at home testing. We got very fortunate with Boo as he seemed to have good reactions with his vetsulin. But like I’ve seen here, ECID. I’ll be sure to update my signature with the pertinent information, and I truly appreciate the welcome we have received here so far. My biggest concerns, outside of getting Peeks glucose levels balances out, are her hind legs because it just seems so much worse than Boo when he had his troubles, but I’m hopeful with the right mix of insulin and B12, we can get her right!

Just got off the phone with the vet. He has home testing kits available, I’ll be picking some up. Dropping her off tomorrow morning to get levels checked throughout the day and hopefully we will hear more then.

I did ask about Methyl B12, he informed me it was something he has heard of but doesn’t have a lot of experience. I told him I’d be placing an order and putting Peeka on it.

On a slightly more down note, I did ask what experience he has had with Diabetic Neuropathy, and he told me it wasn’t something he had seen a lot. And some cats recover and some cats don’t but it is mostly to do with not getting the levels correct and figured out. But surely home testing kits will help regulate and monitor those levels, correct? This isn’t a lost cause if we don’t get it right right away?

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

But surely home testing kits will help regulate and monitor those levels, correct? This isn’t a lost cause if we don’t get it right right away?

Absolutely!
Your Vet may want to sell you the Alpha Track meter. Its a GOOD meter BUT the strips are very expensive, something like a dollar a strip. While its a good meter, most people here simply cant afford those prices. This whole site was built around human meters. They are cheap and strips are affordable. It will be interesting to see what your vets "package " contains.
Whatever you decide WE CAN WORK WITH IT!

GOOD LUCK at the vets tomorrow!
j

 

[Ale & Bobo & Minnie (GA)]

Jus


Just got off the phone with the vet. He has home testing kits available, I’ll be picking some up. Dropping her off tomorrow morning to get levels checked throughout the day and hopefully we will hear more then.

I did ask about Methyl B12, he informed me it was something he has heard of but doesn’t have a lot of experience. I told him I’d be placing an order and putting Peeka on it.

On a slightly more down note, I did ask what experience he has had with Diabetic Neuropathy, and he told me it wasn’t something he had seen a lot. And some cats recover and some cats don’t but it is mostly to do with not getting the levels correct and figured out. But surely home testing kits will help regulate and monitor those levels, correct? This isn’t a lost cause if we don’t get it right right away?

What JT said. No need to get the expensive pet meter. Most of us are on human meters here. Keep in mind it’s not about the price of the meter, it’s the test strips that will add up when you’re testing 2-4 times a day. Walmart’s ReliOn is excellent so I’d suggest you opt for that.

I’m here to give you some good news and hope as Minnie also had severed neuropathy to the point she could barely take 2 steps without having to stop and rest. Couldn’t jump, couldn’t get in and out of the litter box. Once I was able to get her diabetes regulated and she was on b12 methyl - the same Diane indicated above (thank you Diane you do rock!! which btw is totally different than the regular b12 shot so don’t get the 2 confused. Methyl works directly on the spinal fluid to help with nerve regeneration that’s why it helps reverse neuropathy - within maybe 3 months she recovered about 90% abs now I think she’s 99% there with just some residual arthritis. The first vet said she’s never recover and the current vet I see now said maybe 30%. They don’t know so don’t listen to what they say. The one thing I know now having been on this forum for a while is they most vets don’t know much about how feline diabetes works and don’t have a lot of experience with it. Did I miss your cats name above? Your sugar baby will be fine I can promise you. Just know that even starting the b12 methyl now won’t do much good until the diabetes is regulated. That’s when it will start to really work. So be patient and move forward with home testing as it’s the only way to make sure she gets well again!

I look at Minnie now and I can’t even remember how bad it was before. It’s like it never happened. She’s back to jumping on my super high bed every morning to wake me up!

 

[Diane Tyler's Mom GA]

What JT said. No need to get the expensive pet meter. Most of us are on human meters here. Keep in mind it’s not about the price of the meter, it’s the test strips that will add up when you’re testing 2-4 times a day. Walmart’s ReliOn is excellent so I’d suggest you opt for that.

I’m here to give you some good news and hope as Minnie also had severed neuropathy to the point she could barely take 2 steps without having to stop and rest. Couldn’t jump, couldn’t get in and out of the litter box. Once I was able to get her diabetes regulated and she was on b12 methyl - the same Diane indicated above (thank you Diane you do rock!! which btw is totally different than the regular b12 shot so don’t get the 2 confused. Methyl works directly on the spinal fluid to help with nerve regeneration that’s why it helps reverse neuropathy - within maybe 3 months she recovered about 90% abs now I think she’s 99% there with just some residual arthritis. The first vet said she’s never recover and the current vet I see now said maybe 30%. They don’t know so don’t listen to what they say. The one thing I know now having been on this forum for a while is they most vets don’t know much about how feline diabetes works and don’t have a lot of experience with it. Did I miss your cats name above? Your sugar baby will be fine I can promise you. Just know that even starting the b12 methyl now won’t do much good until the diabetes is regulated. That’s when it will start to really work. So be patient and move forward with home testing as it’s the only way to make sure she gets well again!

I look at Minnie now and I can’t even remember how bad it was before. It’s like it never happened. She’s back to jumping on my super high bed every morning to wake me up!

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Absolutely!
Your Vet may want to sell you the Alpha Track meter. Its a GOOD meter BUT the strips are very expensive, something like a dollar a strip. While its a good meter, most people here simply cant afford those prices. This whole site was built around human meters. They are cheap and strips are affordable. It will be interesting to see what your vets "package " contains.
Whatever you decide WE CAN WORK WITH IT!

GOOD LUCK at the vets tomorrow!
j

I’ll be sure to keep everyone posted here with what home testing kit we get. This is my vets first time offering them, so I think it may be a learning experience all around. I’m sure many people feel this way, but I truly think our vet cares for our animals and offers fair pricing. There’s been many saturdays he has met us at the office for food or what not. But either way, I’m glad to have found a page that is so willing to help. My anxiety isn’t totally relieved yet, but I’m definitely more optimistic now than I was yesterday!

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

What JT said. No need to get the expensive pet meter. Most of us are on human meters here. Keep in mind it’s not about the price of the meter, it’s the test strips that will add up when you’re testing 2-4 times a day. Walmart’s ReliOn is excellent so I’d suggest you opt for that.

I’m here to give you some good news and hope as Minnie also had severed neuropathy to the point she could barely take 2 steps without having to stop and rest. Couldn’t jump, couldn’t get in and out of the litter box. Once I was able to get her diabetes regulated and she was on b12 methyl - the same Diane indicated above (thank you Diane you do rock!! which btw is totally different than the regular b12 shot so don’t get the 2 confused. Methyl works directly on the spinal fluid to help with nerve regeneration that’s why it helps reverse neuropathy - within maybe 3 months she recovered about 90% abs now I think she’s 99% there with just some residual arthritis. The first vet said she’s never recover and the current vet I see now said maybe 30%. They don’t know so don’t listen to what they say. The one thing I know now having been on this forum for a while is they most vets don’t know much about how feline diabetes works and don’t have a lot of experience with it. Did I miss your cats name above? Your sugar baby will be fine I can promise you. Just know that even starting the b12 methyl now won’t do much good until the diabetes is regulated. That’s when it will start to really work. So be patient and move forward with home testing as it’s the only way to make sure she gets well again!

I look at Minnie now and I can’t even remember how bad it was before. It’s like it never happened. She’s back to jumping on my super high bed every morning to wake me up!

Wow, thank you for sharing this story! I was deeply concerned that it was too aggressive and too much time had passed and it wouldn’t help. I’m sure it’s just because the situation is still so new and I can’t see past today. We actually have two sugar cats. Boo was DX over 2 years ago and has made vast improvements, especially in the last 3-6 months. Peeka is recently DX back in June and is my main concern at the moment. Boo is the longer hair boy, and Peeka is the shorter haired tabby girl. They came from the same litter over 9 years ago after someone found them. In this picture boo is on the left (grey cat) and Peeka is on the right (brown)

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

I’ll be sure to keep everyone posted here with what home testing kit we get. This is my vets first time offering them, so I think it may be a learning experience all around. I’m sure many people feel this way, but I truly think our vet cares for our animals and offers fair pricing. There’s been many saturdays he has met us at the office for food or what not. But either way, I’m glad to have found a page that is so willing to help. My anxiety isn’t totally relieved yet, but I’m definitely more optimistic now than I was yesterday!

Boy I totally get that! Our vet worked with us. She early on admitted she didnt know much about the disease and she HAD a diabetic cat. You might keep this little fact in mind. I gave her the link to this site and she was ON BOARD with the good information AND the resulting community here. The second visit we made I showed her my little book of Troubles numbers.(this was before there were such a thing as spreadsheets) She took it from my hands and went through the whole practice showing it to the other vets. She was thrilled.
Having a vet that works WITH you means everything when it comes to diabetes. It sounds like your vet is one of those.
j

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

Awwww your babies are adorable!

 

[Blackie’s mom]

You said you plan on home testing, if your vet tries to make you by a pet meter most likely will be the AlphaTrak , the test strips for 50 are about 54.00
We use human meters such as The Relion Prime or Premier
You can pick them up at Walmart
The Prime is 9 bucks andc17.88 for 100 strips
In the beginning you will go through a lot

Most of us feed Fancy Feast Classics Pate, which are 2-3 percent carbs


https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-chart.174147/

Food chart

Thank you so much! I’m heading to Walmart before work this morning. However, I DO have a blood glucose monitor and some strips at home that I’ve never use (I had sone low blood sugar and my diabetic sister gave me her old monitor). Can I use those? Are all of the lancets the same size?

 

[Blackie’s mom]

For the neuropthy we give B-12 Methyl

1. .
   For the neuropathy in the legs this will help more so when you get the diabetes under control
   
   
   Hi my cat had neuropathy, this is what I used and many others members because it's cheaper than Zobaline
   
   Hi Here is the link https://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-vitamin-b-12-methylcobalamin-5000-mcg-100-capsules-6
   
   Alot of members use this , I use it myself you can buy it on line from Vitacost
   Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin -- 5000 mcg - 100 Capsules
   It's 17.99 just be sure this is the one you buy
   The only difference is the Zobaline has 200 mcgs of folic acid
   So I buy the folic acid at the supermarket and crush it up and add it to the B-12
   If you can't find the 200 mcg get the 400 mcg and cut it in half
   The Vitacost brand is a capsule so just open it and pour the powder on the wet food
   Has no taste, no need to crush it up
   The Zobaline is 33.99 for 60 pills, too expensive
   I saw a big improvement I'd say 3 months, could be sooner. One capsule a day
   
   
   Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin -- 5000 mcg - 100 Capsules
   • SKU #: 835003001804
   • Shipping Weight: 0.23 lb
   • Servings: 100
   

I wonder if this would have the same results with humans suffering from diabetic nerve damage?

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

I wonder if this would have the same results with humans suffering from diabetic nerve damage?

YES it does although neuropathy can be reversed GOOD BG NUMBERS AND Methyl B12 can reverse neuropathy. My hubby is diabetic

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

Thank you so much! I’m heading to Walmart before work this morning. However, I DO have a blood glucose monitor and some strips at home that I’ve never use (I had sone low blood sugar and my diabetic sister gave me her old monitor). Can I use those? Are all of the lancets the same size?

If the strips have expired they are no good. I would at least buy new strips for that meter. No reason to start out with anything questionable.

 

[Ale & Bobo & Minnie (GA)]

I’ll be sure to keep everyone posted here with what home testing kit we get. This is my vets first time offering them, so I think it may be a learning experience all around. I’m sure many people feel this way, but I truly think our vet cares for our animals and offers fair pricing. There’s been many saturdays he has met us at the office for food or what not. But either way, I’m glad to have found a page that is so willing to help. My anxiety isn’t totally relieved yet, but I’m definitely more optimistic now than I was yesterday!

Just keep in mind the issue will be when you need to buy extra strips. 100 lasts me about 2 weeks and the alphatrack strips are $1 each. With ReliOn I get 100 for $17. Something to consider. I don’t think vets don’t have the animals best interest at heart, I just know that if they are not knowledgeable they can cause unnecessary pain to cat and owner. Good luck!

 

[Ale & Bobo & Minnie (GA)]

Wow, thank you for sharing this story! I was deeply concerned that it was too aggressive and too much time had passed and it wouldn’t help. I’m sure it’s just because the situation is still so new and I can’t see past today. We actually have two sugar cats. Boo was DX over 2 years ago and has made vast improvements, especially in the last 3-6 months. Peeka is recently DX back in June and is my main concern at the moment. Boo is the longer hair boy, and Peeka is the shorter haired tabby girl. They came from the same litter over 9 years ago after someone found them. In this picture boo is on the left (grey cat) and Peeka is on the right (brown)

Angels!!!!! Adorable both!

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Just keep in mind the issue will be when you need to buy extra strips. 100 lasts me about 2 weeks and the alphatrack strips are $1 each. With ReliOn I get 100 for $17. Something to consider. I don’t think vets don’t have the animals best interest at heart, I just know that if they are not knowledgeable they can cause unnecessary pain to cat and owner. Good luck!

I apologize if this is a dumb question, but my wife is concerned with Peekas pain and injection with the daily testing? The tests everyone mentions, are those injections? I see everyone mentioning strips, I just think my wife doesn’t want to have to do another daily injection. She had said seeing one done as like an ear blood test? I’m not entirely sure.

 

[Blackie’s mom]

Just keep in mind the issue will be when you need to buy extra strips. 100 lasts me about 2 weeks and the alphatrack strips are $1 each. With ReliOn I get 100 for $17. Something to consider. I don’t think vets don’t have the animals best interest at heart, I just know that if they are not knowledgeable they can cause unnecessary pain to cat and owner. Good luck!

We have to buy the lancets, too, right? Are they about the same price as the test strips?

 

[Ale & Bobo & Minnie (GA)]

I apologize if this is a dumb question, but my wife is concerned with Peekas pain and injection with the daily testing? The tests everyone mentions, are those injections? I see everyone mentioning strips, I just think my wife doesn’t want to have to do another daily injection. She had said seeing one done as like an ear blood test? I’m not entirely sure.

No question is a stupid question here!

the injection is via syringe so no, not the same. Testing is when you prick the ear with a lancet, or lancet device I prefer the lancet, to get a tiny droplet of blood that you then “collect” onto the strip, the meter processes it and gives you a glucose reading or result that is a number like at the vet. Very much the same process diabetic humans go through daily only they prick their finger. Does it hurt? Most of the time, no. Sometimes Minnie tries to move her ear away, but she sits still for it and if it did hurt she’d be running for the hills. I test her about 4 times a day and she just accepts it because she knows she’ll get a treat immediately after. I sing a song to calm both of us while I’m doing it and I swear she hear me sing and she sits up in her “I’m ready” position. They get used to it just fine. I get not wanting to put your cat through more, trust me. I was reluctant for the same reason at first, but it’s for their own good. And now when I look back I can’t believe I was giving her insulin blind, basically not knowing if she was running too low for the dose that day or not. Just like when you have to medicate a child. They may cry but you have to do it. We have lots of tips here to make the process easier on both you and Peeka. Like warming up the ear so it’s easier to get a decent size droplet, always giving a treat so they make a positive association with testing even when the attempt fails, etc. once you have the meter, we’ll walk you through it. It’s the only way to make sure she recovers and can lead a healthy life. Here are a few diagrams of where in the ear to aim for. There are also member’s videos you can watch to see how to do it.

 

[Ale & Bobo & Minnie (GA)]

We have to buy the lancets, too, right? Are they about the same price?

We have to buy the lancets, too, right? Are they about the same price?

Blackie, would you mind starting a thread of your own? Sorry but we try not to have 2 parallel convos going on at the same time on a thread. Thanks so much!!

to answer your question, yes you have to, but they’re way cheaper and you can use any brand because it doesn’t go anywhere near the meter. I get 100 for a out $2 at Walmart.

 

[Blackie’s mom]

If the strips have expired they are no good. I would at least buy new strips for that meter. No reason to start out with anything questionable.

Yes, they ARE expired. It’s a OneTouch Verio Flex. I think I’ll buy a new one to save money on the test strips.

 

[Critter Mom]

Hi Peter,

I can fully relate to how overwhelmed and anxious you are feeling right now. I think everyone who's ever arrived here has felt the same way in the early days. Things will feel better sooner than you think.

Peeka 'n' Boo - love their names! And they're lovely to look at too!

And some cats recover and some cats don’t but it is mostly to do with not getting the levels correct and figured out.

B12 is a water-soluble vitamin. Any excess should get pee'd out. Here's a useful article from Vetinfo:

Treating Feline Diabetic Neuropathy with Methylcobalamin

And here's a video showing how methylcobalamin helped a little cat called Tootsie:

.

Fingers and paws crossed that it will be just as helpful to Peeka (and may the video help you and your good lady feel more hopeful).


Mogs
.

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

For the neuropthy we give B-12 Methyl

1. .
   For the neuropathy in the legs this will help more so when you get the diabetes under control
   
   
   Hi my cat had neuropathy, this is what I used and many others members because it's cheaper than Zobaline
   
   Hi Here is the link https://www.vitacost.com/vitacost-vitamin-b-12-methylcobalamin-5000-mcg-100-capsules-6
   
   Alot of members use this , I use it myself you can buy it on line from Vitacost
   Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin -- 5000 mcg - 100 Capsules
   It's 17.99 just be sure this is the one you buy
   The only difference is the Zobaline has 200 mcgs of folic acid
   So I buy the folic acid at the supermarket and crush it up and add it to the B-12
   If you can't find the 200 mcg get the 400 mcg and cut it in half
   The Vitacost brand is a capsule so just open it and pour the powder on the wet food
   Has no taste, no need to crush it up
   The Zobaline is 33.99 for 60 pills, too expensive
   I saw a big improvement I'd say 3 months, could be sooner. One capsule a day
   
   
   Vitamin B-12 Methylcobalamin -- 5000 mcg - 100 Capsules
   • SKU #: 835003001804
   • Shipping Weight: 0.23 lb
   • Servings: 100
   

Just Purchased the Vitacost. Will there be an issue giving this to Peeka since she normally eats dry food? Or will I just have to convince her to eat these pills somehow?

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Hi Peter,

I can fully relate to how overwhelmed and anxious you are feeling right now. I think everyone who's ever arrived here has felt the same way in the early days. Things will feel better sooner than you think.

Peeka 'n' Boo - love their names! And they're lovely to look at too!


B12 is a water-soluble vitamin. Any excess should get pee'd out. Here's a useful article from Vetinfo:

Treating Feline Diabetic Neuropathy with Methylcobalamin

And here's a video showing how methylcobalamin helped a little cat called Tootsie:

.

Fingers and paws crossed that it will be just as helpful to Peeka (and may the video help you and your good lady feel more hopeful).


Mogs
.

Watched that video last night, it was a struggle to get through and made my sad because that's why my sweet Peeks is going through right now. But the difference is undeniable. I'm very hopeful to get the home testing kit and start properly monitoring. I may have mentioned above, but I truly had no idea how critical it is to get their dosage correct.

I'm going to also put Boo on testing just to make sure he stays ok, is it normal or possible to have cats need less insulin over time? He is at 4 units 2x/day, but we had steadily increased his over the course of two years and he has just recently, as in the last few months started to look really good.

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

Sorry to say this but that dry might be why Peek and possibly Boo 's numbers are on the high side. All dry foods are PACKED with carbs. There are some lower carbed dry on the market One is Young Again the other the name escapes me at the moment someone will fill in that blank
BUT IT is imperative to know that the blunt removal of dry will drop numbers into dangerous levels. You MUST remove dry food slowly a little bit each day.
j
Its best to get a handle on testing BEFORE you change any food.

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Sorry to say this but that dry might be why Peek and possibly Boo 's numbers are on the high side. All dry foods are PACKED with carbs. There are some lower carbed dry on the market One is Young Again the other the name escapes me at the moment someone will fill in that blank
BUT IT is imperative to know that the blunt removal of dry will drop numbers into dangerous levels. You MUST remove dry food slowly a little bit each day.
j
Its best to get a handle on testing BEFORE you change any food.

not sure if this changes anything, but this is the dry food they are currently on. https://www.petsmart.com/cat/food-a...VansGTybxcmM2jZyAaxt4OOYmYtxUoeRoCnk0QAvD_BwE

 

[Butters & Lyla]

I apologize if this is a dumb question, but my wife is concerned with Peekas pain and injection with the daily testing? The tests everyone mentions, are those injections? I see everyone mentioning strips, I just think my wife doesn’t want to have to do another daily injection. She had said seeing one done as like an ear blood test? I’m not entirely sure.

Peter, here is a link to some of the videos Aleluia mentioned and a step-by-step guide on testing your cat's blood glucose.

Since you are thinking of committing to the home testing, you could start looking at some other kitties' home testing spreadsheets if you have time. Most of us have them linked in right in our signature. You will see in many cases the dosages go down, and/or up. Some kitties have even gone into remission for a while. But also take note of what type of insulin each cat is on, because kitties respond differently to different insulin types. My Butters was started on Caninsulin (Vetsulin..same same), but we switched to Lantus, which is known as a "glargine" insulin and is used by human diabetics.

Congratulations on your wife's pregnancy! How exciting.

Edited to add: Peeka and Boo are so beautiful!!

 

[jt and trouble (GA)]

Yeahhh uh...how do I put this diplomatically? Theres nothing special about that food except maybe the price. Carbohydrates FEED diabetes.
Unless your cat has underlying issues like IBS or motility problems, I see no reason to feed that to any cat. Cats are obligate carnivores. Have you ever seen a kitty cat strolling through a garden munching on carrots?

BUT AGAIN lets get a handle on testing before you do any food change.

 

[Peter (Boo) (Peeka GA)]

Yeahhh uh...how do I put this diplomatically? Theres nothing special about that food except maybe the price. Carbohydrates FEED diabetes.
Unless your cat has underlying issues like IBS or motility problems, I see no reason to feed that to any cat. Cats are obligate carnivores. Have you ever seen a kitty cat strolling through a garden munching on carrots?

BUT AGAIN lets get a handle on testing before you do any food change.

Oh man... I feel so bad now. Are there any good recommendations for alternatives for feeding? I have seen a lot of people talk about wet foods, and with a baby on the way, it may be a good idea to get the cats on a feeding schedule as well. I won't make a change just yet, they are going to be very upset, they LOVE that food.