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0.3cc are easier to use, mostly because the markings make things easier to measure at these small doses

@Diane Tyler's Mom, 4 more weeks! If I make it full term, my son came almost 2 weeks early. Mostly I'm tired of waddling after the toddlers lol
 
FrostD said:
0.3cc are easier to use, mostly because the markings make things easier to measure at these small doses

@Diane Tyler's Mom, 4 more weeks! If I make it full term, my son came almost 2 weeks early. Mostly I'm tired of waddling after the toddlers lol
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Oh boy I bet you can't wait lol Did you want to find out the sex or not
You are probably in bed already , when ever you get a chance no rush can you explain what dry matter means to Allison . I found an article about it and gave it to her
I told her not to worry about it
Sleep well
@FrostD
 
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Allison224 said:
Oh my goodness, I wish I had known of this forum earlier! You guys are so helpful! Thank you so much!
In regards to the food, Dry matter means what exactly? I'm sorry I'm so new to all of this!
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Nothing to be sorry about
To tell you the truth I can't even explain what dry matter means , but I k ow when you want to know how many carbs are in a certain food you want to know what the dry matter is
I found an article about, but don't worry about it :p
https://catfooddb.com/blog/dry-matter-basis
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Nothing to be sorry about
To tell you the truth I can't even explain what dry matter means , but I k ow when you want to know how many carbs are in a certain food you want to know what the dry matter is
I found an article about, but don't worry about it :p
https://catfooddb.com/blog/dry-matter-basis
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Thank you! Not a lot of foods include this information! For example, I bought my kitty a loin from the brand Reveal. And I'm not sure if it's ok. It's just a tuna loin? I do not think there's additives. I checked the ingredients and it includes the fish and water I believe.
 
Allison224 said:
Perfect! I will purchase it and just slowly increase his dosage 0.25 at a time and I think in a weekly basis!
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Spreadsheet looks perfect
Let's see how his BG numbers are after a week like it says before you plan on increasing OK
Allison if I were you I would start a new post everyday so everyone can follow along in case Melissa isn't around , she's pregnant and due in 4 weeks, so if I can't help you with something I can tag other members for you
So tomorrow you will put in your title
10-11 Persian AMPS ( what ever it is ) and any additional tests you take after that .
Here's an EXAMPLE
10-11 Persian AMPS-300 +2 250 +4 220 then you can add his PMPS to it ,do the same as I showed you
To add the additional tests look to the right when you need to add them and you will see the word Thread Tools, tap on that , then tap on Edit Thread , add your BG numbers and tap Save

You also want to link your previous days post to your new one
So tomorrow you will link this post to tomorrow's
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Spreadsheet looks perfect
Let's see how his BG numbers are after a week like it says before you plan on increasing OK
Allison if I were you I would start a new post everyday so everyone can follow along in case Melissa isn't around , she's pregnant and due in 4 weeks, so if I can't help you with something I can tag other members for you
So tomorrow you will put in your title
10-11 Persian AMPS ( what ever it is ) and any additional tests you take after that .
Here's an EXAMPLE
10-11 Persian AMPS-300 +2 250 +4 220 then you can add his PMPS to it ,do the same as I showed you
To add the additional tests look to the right when you need to add them and you will see the word Thread Tools, tap on that , then tap on Edit Thread , add your BG numbers and tap Save

You also want to link your previous days post to your new one
So tomorrow you will link this post to tomorrow's
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Okay, I will try to do this tomorrow. When I have the chance. I cannot guarantee it will be perfectly like that, but I will try my best! :)
Im getting on top of buying all these new goodies for my boy. In hopes that it will help. I also want to give him time to heal. The pen I used for his BG was very rough on him. I will continue to freehand though! Whatever I can do to make it comfortable for him.
Thank you so much for your help!! I will continue to keep everyone posted!
 
Allison224 said:
Thank you! Not a lot of foods include this information! For example, I bought my kitty a loin from the brand Reveal. And I'm not sure if it's ok. It's just a tuna loin? I do not think there's additives. I checked the ingredients and it includes the fish and water I believe.
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None of the cat foods have this listed on their cans
If you Google a certain food and Chewy has it you can tap on where it says questions answered and you might find the answer there
If you look at the top of the page you will see where it says Search
If you are looking for an answer for something you can type it in where it says search
For example if you type in Royal Canin SO you will then see a lot of posts from other members that might have used it and listed the carbs, it will be in bold letters

If you type in UTI there will be posts about it
Some will e mail the company and ask them what is the dry matter
 
Allison224 said:
Okay, I will try to do this tomorrow. When I have the chance. I cannot guarantee it will be perfectly like that, but I will try my best! :)
Im getting on top of buying all these new goodies for my boy. In hopes that it will help. I also want to give him time to heal. The pen I used for his BG was very rough on him. I will continue to freehand though! Whatever I can do to make it comfortable for him.
Thank you so much for your help!! I will continue to keep everyone posted!
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No problem at all, if his ears look beat up you can put pure coconut oil on them
Just another thing to add to your list . :cat:
Found this that a member posted

For his ears you can put some pure coconut oil on them you can probably get it at a health food store or on line

I Copied this from a member that used it
just make sure the only ingredient is coconut oil (mine is solid at room temp and I would take an itty bitty dab and rub on his ears)


The best way I can explain on how to link your previous days post is
The best that I can explain how to do it is to look up top where that picture is of that cat on the left hand side , above it will be this post in that long line where it says https://feline diabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new to this ( that's your post for today)
You copy it and then paste it on your new post tomorrow where you would begin to write something
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
No problem at all, if his ears look beat up you can put pure coconut oil on them
Just another thing to add to your list . :cat:
Found this that a member posted

For his ears you can put some pure coconut oil on them you can probably get it at a health food store or on line

I Copied this from a member that used it
just make sure the only ingredient is coconut oil (mine is solid at room temp and I would take an itty bitty dab and rub on his ears)


The best way I can explain on how to link your previous days post is
The best that I can explain how to do it is to look up top where that picture is of that cat on the left hand side , above it will be this post in that long line where it says https://feline diabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new to this ( that's your post for today)
You copy it and then paste it on your new post tomorrow where you would begin to write something
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Ugh, I need this. I just took his BG @+4 and he's at 281. He put up a fight! The first time in 3 days of doing it...
I will be definitely buying some coconut oil if it helps me help him!
 
Allison224 said:
Ugh, I need this. I just took his BG @+4 and he's at 281. He put up a fight! The first time in 3 days of doing it...
I will be definitely buying some coconut oil if it helps me help him!
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I think you can stop testing for tonight, poor Persian
Don't forget to enter the 281 on your spreadsheet
When you can boil the chicken so when you test him he will associate the testing with getting a treat
I'll give you some info on the freeze dried treats
He's got the sweetest face, how old is he?
 
You can give her any freeze dried treats for a snack
most members give freeze dried treats , they are low carb, you can probably find them in some local pet stores also
I did a search for you on here and copied what some members said they use,

When testing you can give them a treat so they will associate after testing they will get a reward, any freeze dried treats are ok such as
PureBites Freeze-Dried Cat Treats with Chicken Breast 2.3 oz ()https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071P





Also chewys has freeze dried treats also


The freeze dried treats you can get at petsmart, petco and order from chewy. Purebites is popular (cheaper if you buy the dog food ones). My crew like vital essentials it's dehydrated freeze dried raw comes in flavors

freeze dried minnows, made by Vital Essentials. I also buy the ones made for dogs. They're the same as the freeze dried minnows for cats. just cheaper. They also carry other freeze dried treats. I ordered mine through Amazon.

I think the vital essentials are more of a crunchy texture than the purebites

If you cat likes any of these you can buy the bigger bags for dogs they are the same ,you will get more for your money just break then up into smaller pieces
.

You can Google freeze dried treats and see what other ones there are and different flavors
Just make sure that is the only ingredient in them meaning turkey, chicken, minnows etc

Here is another one , I see you can get these in different flavors also just look
You may have to break any freeze dried treats in half if they are too big
https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Essent...ocphy=9003521&hvtargid=pla-630511512365&psc=1

Flavor Name: Duck Liver
Ahi Tuna
  • Chicken
  • Chicken Giblets
  • Chicken Hearts
  • Duck Liver
  • Minnows
  • Rabbit
Here is another one
You can give her any freeze dried treats for a snack
most members give freeze dried treats , they are low carb, you can probably find them in some local pet stores also
I did a search for you on here and copied what some members said they use,

When testing you can give them a treat so they will associate after testing they will get a reward, any freeze dried treats are ok such as
PureBites Freeze-Dried Cat Treats with Chicken Breast 2.3 oz ()https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071P

Also chewys has freeze dried treats also


The freeze dried treats you can get at petsmart, petco and order from chewy. Purebites is popular (cheaper if you buy the dog food ones). My crew like vital essentials it's dehydrated freeze dried raw comes in flavors

freeze dried minnows, made by Vital Essentials. I also buy the ones made for dogs. They're the same as the freeze dried minnows for cats. just cheaper. They also carry other freeze dried treats. I ordered mine through Amazon.

I think the vital essentials are more of a crunchy texture than the purebites

If you cat likes any of these you can buy the bigger bags for dogs they are the same ,you will get more for your money just break then up into smaller pieces
.

You can Google freeze dried treats and see what other ones there are and different flavors
Just make sure that is the only ingredient in them meaning turkey, chicken, minnows etc

Here is another one , I see you can get these in different flavors also just look
You may have to break any freeze dried treats in half if they are too big
https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Essent...ocphy=9003521&hvtargid=pla-630511512365&psc=1

Flavor Name: Duck Liver
Ahi Tuna
  • Chicken
  • Chicken Giblets
  • Chicken Hearts
  • Duck Liver
  • Minnows
  • Rabbit
Here is another one Halo Live A Littles
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=halo liv a littles&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqM3npIiF-AIVEYnICh2PtQK6EAAYAyAAEgL--PD_BwE&hvadid=176944855419&hvdev=t&hvlocphy=9003521&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&he

https://www.amazon.com/Halo-Littles...ords=halo live a little&qid=1653847544&sr=8-1

Looks like they have other flavors also
If they like any of the treats you can buy the same ones for dogs more for your money, just break them up into smaller pieces
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
I think you can stop testing for tonight, poor Persian
Don't forget to enter the 281 on your spreadsheet
When you can boil the chicken so when you test him he will associate the testing with getting a treat
I'll give you some info on the freeze dried treats
He's got the sweetest face, how old is he?
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Yes, I am unable to enter it right now because I'm ready for bed and he refuses to come to bed. I believe he's just mad. I have been giving him pieces of chicken after tests but he seems to resent me.
Also, I saw the link on the foods protein, carb, etc. Count and the Purina Pro urinary health formula seems to be below 10% I assume this is maybe a good idea to feed him? Along with a low carb dry. Maybe I'm not reading it right..
Persian is 10 years old! My baby boy I had him since I was 17/18.
 
Allison224 said:
Yes, I am unFood
I to enter it right now because I'm ready for bed and he refuses to come to bed. I believe he's just mad. I have been giving him pieces of chicken after tests but he seems to resent me.
Also, I saw the link on the foods protein, carb, etc. Count and the Purina Pro urinary health formula seems to be below 10% I assume this is maybe a good idea to feed him? Along with a low carb dry. Maybe I'm not reading it right..
Persian is 10 years old! My baby boy I had him since I was 17/18.
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He'll get over it lol
Yes that food would be a good choice
What link are you talking about where you saw the Purina Pro Plan Urinary Health are you talking about the chicken flavor?
@Allison224
You are talking about this one
Purina Pro Plan Gravy Chicken Entrée Urinary Health Tract Cat Food
I see this is the only flavor that isn't pate

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Dont hate me for more reading!

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/calculating-calories-from-carbohydrates.205128/

There is a very good explanation there. Basically, most foods list the Guaranteed Analysis (GA) which is simply the minimum amount of protein, etc. in the can - but it could be much more. As-Feds are more accurate as it's more an "average" of what's actually in the can.

Since wet food contains usually like 70-80% moisture, that greatly skews the carb %. It could be 5% carbs when you have the moisture "diluting" the percent composition, so a manufacturer could just make it more moist and claim reduced carbs. Not a fair analysis. So, we take the moisture out of the picture to put all the foods on an even playing field. That same food that was 5% could easily end up 20-30% once you take moisture out.

We do take it a step further to metabolizable energy, or % calories from carbs. From what I understand, this is the more important measure because it's the portion of the food that is actually being made available in the cat's body (vs being lost in the digestive process as still, urine, etc).
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
You can give her any freeze dried treats for a snack
most members give freeze dried treats , they are low carb, you can probably find them in some local pet stores also
I did a search for you on here and copied what some members said they use,

When testing you can give them a treat so they will associate after testing they will get a reward, any freeze dried treats are ok such as
PureBites Freeze-Dried Cat Treats with Chicken Breast 2.3 oz ()https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071P





Also chewys has freeze dried treats also


The freeze dried treats you can get at petsmart, petco and order from chewy. Purebites is popular (cheaper if you buy the dog food ones). My crew like vital essentials it's dehydrated freeze dried raw comes in flavors

freeze dried minnows, made by Vital Essentials. I also buy the ones made for dogs. They're the same as the freeze dried minnows for cats. just cheaper. They also carry other freeze dried treats. I ordered mine through Amazon.

I think the vital essentials are more of a crunchy texture than the purebites

If you cat likes any of these you can buy the bigger bags for dogs they are the same ,you will get more for your money just break then up into smaller pieces
.

You can Google freeze dried treats and see what other ones there are and different flavors
Just make sure that is the only ingredient in them meaning turkey, chicken, minnows etc

Here is another one , I see you can get these in different flavors also just look
You may have to break any freeze dried treats in half if they are too big
https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Essent...ocphy=9003521&hvtargid=pla-630511512365&psc=1

Flavor Name: Duck Liver
Ahi Tuna
  • Chicken
  • Chicken Giblets
  • Chicken Hearts
  • Duck Liver
  • Minnows
  • Rabbit
Here is another one
You can give her any freeze dried treats for a snack
most members give freeze dried treats , they are low carb, you can probably find them in some local pet stores also
I did a search for you on here and copied what some members said they use,

When testing you can give them a treat so they will associate after testing they will get a reward, any freeze dried treats are ok such as
PureBites Freeze-Dried Cat Treats with Chicken Breast 2.3 oz ()https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071P

Also chewys has freeze dried treats also


The freeze dried treats you can get at petsmart, petco and order from chewy. Purebites is popular (cheaper if you buy the dog food ones). My crew like vital essentials it's dehydrated freeze dried raw comes in flavors

freeze dried minnows, made by Vital Essentials. I also buy the ones made for dogs. They're the same as the freeze dried minnows for cats. just cheaper. They also carry other freeze dried treats. I ordered mine through Amazon.

I think the vital essentials are more of a crunchy texture than the purebites

If you cat likes any of these you can buy the bigger bags for dogs they are the same ,you will get more for your money just break then up into smaller pieces
.

You can Google freeze dried treats and see what other ones there are and different flavors
Just make sure that is the only ingredient in them meaning turkey, chicken, minnows etc

Here is another one , I see you can get these in different flavors also just look
You may have to break any freeze dried treats in half if they are too big
https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Essent...ocphy=9003521&hvtargid=pla-630511512365&psc=1

Flavor Name: Duck Liver
Ahi Tuna
  • Chicken
  • Chicken Giblets
  • Chicken Hearts
  • Duck Liver
  • Minnows
  • Rabbit
Here is another one Halo Live A Littles
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=halo liv a littles&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqM3npIiF-AIVEYnICh2PtQK6EAAYAyAAEgL--PD_BwE&hvadid=176944855419&hvdev=t&hvlocphy=9003521&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&he

https://www.amazon.com/Halo-Littles...ords=halo live a little&qid=1653847544&sr=8-1

Looks like they have other flavors also
If they like any of the treats you can buy the same ones for dogs more for your money, just break them up into smaller pieces
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This is so helpful! I will try to find some at my local pet supplies plus they have a huge fridge of stuff and even do raw diets there. Thank you so much! I've been giving him chicken and tuna loin. He's still very mad when it's done. The behavior is starting recently though. So I hope different treats help!
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
He'll get over it lol
Yes that food would be a good choice
What link are you talking about where you saw the Purina Pro Plan Urinary Health are you talking about the chicken flavor?
@Allison224
You are talking about this one
Purina Pro Plan Gravy Chicken Entrée Urinary Health Tract Cat Food
I see this is the only flavor that isn't pate

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I saw it under the Dr Pierson food chart you sent me. The link has a huge list of foods and I believe they were pretty good in carbs and phosphorus? I have to make sure I can find the right ones! Is gravy okay?
 
FrostD said:
Dont hate me for more reading!

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/calculating-calories-from-carbohydrates.205128/

There is a very good explanation there. Basically, most foods list the Guaranteed Analysis (GA) which is simply the minimum amount of protein, etc. in the can - but it could be much more. As-Feds are more accurate as it's more an "average" of what's actually in the can.

Since wet food contains usually like 70-80% moisture, that greatly skews the carb %. It could be 5% carbs when you have the moisture "diluting" the percent composition, so a manufacturer could just make it more moist and claim reduced carbs. Not a fair analysis. So, we take the moisture out of the picture to put all the foods on an even playing field. That same food that was 5% could easily end up 20-30% once you take moisture out.

We do take it a step further to metabolizable energy, or % calories from carbs. From what I understand, this is the more important measure because it's the portion of the food that is actually being made available in the cat's body (vs being lost in the digestive process as still, urine, etc).
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Okay this was interesting! I normally look at the ingredients and if it only consist of 2 things I would purchase. However woth their canned foods its very difficult. I will try to see if I see these.
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Make sure you have a hypo kit set up in case Persian ever drops too low and you need to bring his BG back up to safe numbers

Good idea to mark the cans with magic marker how many carbs


And some honey in the house
Any ones on the food chart

https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-

Between 11% and 17% is medium carbs.

18% and over is high carb.
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Should I have medium to high carb cans too? I for sure have honey in the house. Do I add with water or just place a drop of it on his tongue?
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
None of the cat foods have this listed on their cans
If you Google a certain food and Chewy has it you can tap on where it says questions answered and you might find the answer there
If you look at the top of the page you will see where it says Search
If you are looking for an answer for something you can type it in where it says search
For example if you type in Royal Canin SO you will then see a lot of posts from other members that might have used it and listed the carbs, it will be in bold letters

If you type in UTI there will be posts about it
Some will e mail the company and ask them what is the dry matter
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Thank you whenever I Googled RC SO canned they said it was 3.5% but I highly doubted it.
 
FrostD said:
Dont hate me for more reading!

https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/calculating-calories-from-carbohydrates.205128/

There is a very good explanation there. Basically, most foods list the Guaranteed Analysis (GA) which is simply the minimum amount of protein, etc. in the can - but it could be much more. As-Feds are more accurate as it's more an "average" of what's actually in the can.

Since wet food contains usually like 70-80% moisture, that greatly skews the carb %. It could be 5% carbs when you have the moisture "diluting" the percent composition, so a manufacturer could just make it more moist and claim reduced carbs. Not a fair analysis. So, we take the moisture out of the picture to put all the foods on an even playing field. That same food that was 5% could easily end up 20-30% once you take moisture out.

We do take it a step further to metabolizable energy, or % calories from carbs. From what I understand, this is the more important measure because it's the portion of the food that is actually being made available in the cat's body (vs being lost in the digestive process as still, urine, etc).
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Sorry to reply again on this response, however I was looking up the information on Reveal cat food it says their cans contain chicken and chicken broth no additives. Yet, this is shown

"Analytic Constituents:

Crude Protein (Min) 15%, Crude Fiber (Max) 1%, Crude Fat (Min) 0.5%, Crude Ash (Max) 2.5%, Moisture (Max) 82%"

When I add these up it came out to 101. Am I just not doing my math right. I'm not sure on how to do the math properly I guess.

Link to the page: https://revealpetfood.com/cat-food/wet-cat-food/chicken-breast-in-broth-can/
 
Allison224 said:
Should I have medium to high carb cans too? I for sure have honey in the house. Do I add with water or just place a drop of it on his tongue?
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You can pick up a few cans of med and high carb foods from Our food chart I sent just in case he ever drops into the 60's or below, we would just give about a teaspoon then check his BG in 30 minutes to see if it came up, Depending on the BG number we would tell you what to feed or if you need to use honey
Don't worry about it now , if you ever need help you can post something like HELP and whatever you need help with
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
You can pick up a few cans of med and high carb foods from Our food chart I sent just in case he ever drops into the 60's or below, we would just give about a teaspoon then check his BG in 30 minutes to see if it came up, Depending on the BG number we would tell you what to feed or if you need to use honey
Don't worry about it now , if you ever need help you can post something like HELP and whatever you need help with
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I feel since I still have his RC SO dry food maybe I can give that to him before he goes below 100s just in case. He eats them easily if handfed.
The dry food is what he would eat all day and night which is why he was always on the high 500s. The carbs are so high in his SO food.
 
Allison224 said:
Sorry to reply again on this response, however I was looking up the information on Reveal cat food it says their cans contain chicken and chicken broth no additives. Yet, this is shown

"Analytic Constituents:

Crude Protein (Min) 15%, Crude Fiber (Max) 1%, Crude Fat (Min) 0.5%, Crude Ash (Max) 2.5%, Moisture (Max) 82%"

When I add these up it came out to 101. Am I just not doing my math right. I'm not sure on how to do the math properly I guess.

Link to the page: https://revealpetfood.com/cat-food/wet-cat-food/chicken-breast-

in-broth-can/
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To be honest I have never used the calculators ,I have always gone by Dr Lisa's food chart

I found this posted by one of our members , hope it helps
There are a few cat food carb calculators on the web. This is one of those calculators. You plug in the values from the cat food. Keep in mind, what's on the label is generally the guaranteed analysis -- the values are given as minimums or maximums. To be more than an approximation, you need "as fed" values which are typically available only from the manufacturer. The calculator will give you a ballpark figure.

One of our members put together this post on calculating carbs.
Stop worrying about lol
 
Allison224 said:
I feel since I still have his RC SO dry food maybe I can give that to him before he goes below 100s just in case. He eats them easily if handfed.
The dry food is what he would eat all day and night which is why he was always on the high 500s. The carbs are so high in his SO food.
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You can save that if he drops lower going below 100 isn't bad , let's say you test him @+2 and it's much lower than the AMPS like a 100 drop point you would then want to feed hm something.
Dry food takes longer to reach the system , that's why we like to use med or hc food
Dry foods are not the best during a hypo situation because it takes longer for them to be digested and bring up the bg
The take action number for a human monitor is 50, meaning you will feed med or high carb food, if it's in the 60's you would feed lower carb wet food, it all depends on where it is in the cycle. Don't worry about it now ok
 
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Allison224 said:
Sorry to reply again on this response, however I was looking up the information on Reveal cat food it says their cans contain chicken and chicken broth no additives. Yet, this is shown

"Analytic Constituents:

Crude Protein (Min) 15%, Crude Fiber (Max) 1%, Crude Fat (Min) 0.5%, Crude Ash (Max) 2.5%, Moisture (Max) 82%"

When I add these up it came out to 101. Am I just not doing my math right. I'm not sure on how to do the math properly I guess.

Link to the page: https://revealpetfood.com/cat-food/wet-cat-food/chicken-breast-in-broth-can/
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Because they're mins and Max's that can happen. Looks ok from a carb standpoint but is not a nutritionally complete food (it says to feed with dry in order to have a complete diet)
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
You can save that if he drops lower going below 100 isn't bad , let's say you test him @+2 and it's much lower than the AMPS like a 100 drop point you would then want to feed hm something.
Dry food takes longer to reach the system , that's why we like to use med or hc food
Dry foods are not the best during a hypo situation because it takes longer for them to be digested and bring up the bg
The take action number for a human monitor is 50, meaning you will feed med or high carb food, if it's in the 60's you would feed lower carb wet food, it all depends on where it is in the cycle. Don't worry about it now ok
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Okay! Perfect but it's good to have this in mind so I can begin preparing these items. The 1st BG test I did he did drop significantly and rather quick. I did give him like 5 pebbles to slow it down. I also have honey at home. I just need to purchase a med and or high cal can for just in case scenarios!
 
FrostD said:
Because they're mins and Max's that can happen. Looks ok from a carb standpoint but is not a nutritionally complete food (it says to feed with dry in order to have a complete diet)
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Yes, I need to find some that are complete in nutrition. At the moment my store does not have his RC canned SO diet. Therefore, I'm kind of worried about what to feed him now. Since I have a ball park on how his BG is with this diet I've had him on for now.
 
Are you warming up the ear before testing? The pill bottle never worked for Minnie. The other option is to fill an old sock with some rice and then nuke for 30 secs or so. Hold the warm sock to the ear till it’s warm to the touch.
 
Ale & Minnie (GA) said:
Are you warming up the ear before testing? The pill bottle never worked for Minnie. The other option is to fill an old sock with some rice and then nuke for 30 secs or so. Hold the warm sock to the ear till it’s warm to the touch.
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Yes! I've done these. Such good advice it helped a lot with getting a good amount! Thank you! He's slowly adjusting and allowing me to poke and do the test! However, he isn't associating it with the treat for some reason. He enjoys the treat after but he kind of just goes back to sleep after the test and as I go to grab the treat. Haha
 
Allison224 said:
Yes! I've done these. Such good advice it helped a lot with getting a good amount! Thank you! He's slowly adjusting and allowing me to poke and do the test! However, he isn't associating it with the treat for some reason. He enjoys the treat after but he kind of just goes back to sleep after the test and as I go to grab the treat. Haha
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Ah I see. Well, I’d always have the treat with me and visible as I was testing so Minnie knew to wait for it. Maybe try that? I had it in a super small Tupperware. I also sang while I was testing. It helped calm us both down. Probably me more than her lol
 
Ale & Minnie (GA) said:
Ah I see. Well, I’d always have the treat with me and visible as I was testing so Minnie knew to wait for it. Maybe try that? I had it in a super small Tupperware. I also sang while I was testing. It helped calm us both down. Probably me more than her lol
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Oh my goodness! that is so cute!
I started having the treat with me and he's slowly getting it lol. He's also been a grump since the diabetes diagnosis. Hopefully he's back to galloping around the house like before! If I sing to him he'd leave lol! He's a character!! :cat:
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
You can give her any freeze dried treats for a snack
most members give freeze dried treats , they are low carb, you can probably find them in some local pet stores also
I did a search for you on here and copied what some members said they use,

When testing you can give them a treat so they will associate after testing they will get a reward, any freeze dried treats are ok such as
PureBites Freeze-Dried Cat Treats with Chicken Breast 2.3 oz ()https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071P





Also chewys has freeze dried treats also


The freeze dried treats you can get at petsmart, petco and order from chewy. Purebites is popular (cheaper if you buy the dog food ones). My crew like vital essentials it's dehydrated freeze dried raw comes in flavors

freeze dried minnows, made by Vital Essentials. I also buy the ones made for dogs. They're the same as the freeze dried minnows for cats. just cheaper. They also carry other freeze dried treats. I ordered mine through Amazon.

I think the vital essentials are more of a crunchy texture than the purebites

If you cat likes any of these you can buy the bigger bags for dogs they are the same ,you will get more for your money just break then up into smaller pieces
.

You can Google freeze dried treats and see what other ones there are and different flavors
Just make sure that is the only ingredient in them meaning turkey, chicken, minnows etc

Here is another one , I see you can get these in different flavors also just look
You may have to break any freeze dried treats in half if they are too big
https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Essent...ocphy=9003521&hvtargid=pla-630511512365&psc=1

Flavor Name: Duck Liver
Ahi Tuna
  • Chicken
  • Chicken Giblets
  • Chicken Hearts
  • Duck Liver
  • Minnows
  • Rabbit
Here is another one
You can give her any freeze dried treats for a snack
most members give freeze dried treats , they are low carb, you can probably find them in some local pet stores also
I did a search for you on here and copied what some members said they use,

When testing you can give them a treat so they will associate after testing they will get a reward, any freeze dried treats are ok such as
PureBites Freeze-Dried Cat Treats with Chicken Breast 2.3 oz ()https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071P

Also chewys has freeze dried treats also


The freeze dried treats you can get at petsmart, petco and order from chewy. Purebites is popular (cheaper if you buy the dog food ones). My crew like vital essentials it's dehydrated freeze dried raw comes in flavors

freeze dried minnows, made by Vital Essentials. I also buy the ones made for dogs. They're the same as the freeze dried minnows for cats. just cheaper. They also carry other freeze dried treats. I ordered mine through Amazon.

I think the vital essentials are more of a crunchy texture than the purebites

If you cat likes any of these you can buy the bigger bags for dogs they are the same ,you will get more for your money just break then up into smaller pieces
.

You can Google freeze dried treats and see what other ones there are and different flavors
Just make sure that is the only ingredient in them meaning turkey, chicken, minnows etc

Here is another one , I see you can get these in different flavors also just look
You may have to break any freeze dried treats in half if they are too big
https://www.amazon.com/Vital-Essent...ocphy=9003521&hvtargid=pla-630511512365&psc=1

Flavor Name: Duck Liver
Ahi Tuna
  • Chicken
  • Chicken Giblets
  • Chicken Hearts
  • Duck Liver
  • Minnows
  • Rabbit
Here is another one Halo Live A Littles
https://www.amazon.com/s?k=halo liv a littles&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqM3npIiF-AIVEYnICh2PtQK6EAAYAyAAEgL--PD_BwE&hvadid=176944855419&hvdev=t&hvlocphy=9003521&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&he

https://www.amazon.com/Halo-Littles...ords=halo live a little&qid=1653847544&sr=8-1

Looks like they have other flavors also
If they like any of the treats you can buy the same ones for dogs more for your money, just break them up into smaller pieces
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Allison --

We try to limit the size of a thread to 50 posts. When you next post, would you please start a new thread? This one is rather lengthy and many people may skip over something important due to the length.

Thanks, you're friendy housekeeping nerd.
 
Sienne and Gabby (GA) said:
Allison --

We try to limit the size of a thread to 50 posts. When you next post, would you please start a new thread? This one is rather lengthy and many people may skip over something important due to the length.

Thanks, you're friendy housekeeping nerd.
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who is Allison??
If you mean me, nobody mentioned 50 posts and how are you supposed to count??? Mine have been diff. questions also. I see the # on my posts, again, don't know why you sent this to me. I am at 20.
 
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