? 06-10 Panzer PMPS 265/271@+4 Dose increase? Food switch?

Chrispooky12

Chrispooky12

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Panzer's #s are still pretty high, but the poor boy just can't get over being sick. Should I increase his dose @ AMPS to 1.5 units? We have an appointment with a new vet on Tuesday. I haven't told my old vet that we are switching yet because I want to see if this vet is going to be on the same page with me making most if not all decisions about Panzer's needs.

Good news Panzer & Spooks stools both came back negative for garditis, so that's one less thing I have to worry about & one less stress on there poor little bodies. They both have to have mirtaz on there ear & as of today they are both on Cerenia. Spook was doing well with eating until yesterday,so I called the vet & went & got him some Cerenia.

I'm really not sure what's going on with them. Could they both have pancreatitis? I know cats are good at hiding pain but would they be comfortably sleeping on there backs if they were in pain? I'm not saying they always sleep like that but they both have in the past couple of days. Panzer sometimes will hide under the couch or bed for about 10mins after eating. They both sometimes sit in the,meatloaf position, they also lay in normal position,there both also doing the 5 Ps. I also thought maybe it's the fancy feast that is making them sick? How will I really know though since there both having mirtaz on there ear & there both on Cerenia? I'm really at a loss of what to do? Any feedback, advice, help on what to do for my poor sick boys would be much appreciated.

Thoughts on low carb low phosphorus foods beside weruva? I have a list but there's some that there all only 2 or 3 flavors that are both low carb & low phosphorus (trying to stay away from fish) Here's my list:

Dave's naturally healthy grain free 1 Turkey & giblets 2 beef & chicken
Halo spots pate 1 Turkey & duck 2 halo impulse rabbit
I & I love you 1 wholly cow
Natures logic 1 duck & salmon(not crazy about the salmon) 2 beef
Organix 1 Turkey pate 2 chicken pate 3 chicken & chicken liver
Tiki cat 1 molokai luau 2 puka puk luau chicken 3 koolina luau 4 gourmet carnivore beef & liver 5 beef liver lamb 6 chicken with duck 7 gourmet carnivore chicken & turkey
Wellness complete health 1 chicken 2 turkey
Whole earth farms grain free 1 duck pate
Sheba perfect portion pates
Soulistic moist & tender 1 turkey
Soulistic pate & shreds 1 chicken
Soulistic original cans 1 double happiness 2 aromatic chicken
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB...3-vet-visit-about-bathing-300-4-287-7.263713/
 
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Soulistic is good but very low cal. Max only liked the hc pouches. He ate Daves pretty well and it’s low carb low phosphorus or at least it was when I bought it. I think you are good to increase. I think it’s very hard to find food that works for both kidney and fd. :bighug:
 
tiffmaxee said:
Soulistic is good but very low cal. Max only liked the hc pouches. He ate Daves pretty well and it’s low carb low phosphorus or at least it was when I bought it. I think you are good to increase. I think it’s very hard to find food that works for both kidney and fd. :bighug:
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Okay thank you. Yes it is very hard to find food for both, it's very frustrating!
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Where can you buy Soulistic? I looked for it on Chewy just the other day, and they don’t sell it. My list says that some of the Soulistic flavors are equivalent to certain Weruva flavors.
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Soulistic is a subsidiary of Weruva sold exclusively in Petco stores. If you go to their website https://www.soulisticpet.com/nutrition-info-all you will find all the flavors nutritional info on ME, as fed and DMB basis. :)
My Cleo loves the original flavors...of course those are mostly medium to high carb :rolleyes:. We keep these on hand for other carb options when/if necessary.
We never tried the Pates.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
Where can you buy Soulistic? I looked for it on Chewy just the other day, and they don’t sell it. My list says that some of the Soulistic flavors are equivalent to certain Weruva flavors.
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From what I've seen they have it at petco. I have to go to the big city because we don't have one in the town I live in but I'm fine with that. I could order online but I don't want to buy in bulk if they don't like it.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
I fed my cats Dave’s Turkey and Giblets pate for years. I am not sure they were really wild about it, but they ate it.
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I like that one as well. My fear on both of them is there aren't very many flavors of them in the pate. They both have fish flavors but I'm trying to stay away from those. They liked the salmon feast at first than completely turned up there noses. I have a case of it unopened fancy feast that chewy gave me a credit on & told me to donate it.
 
Angela & Cleo said:
Soulistic is a subsidiary of Weruva sold exclusively in Petco stores. If you go to their website https://www.soulisticpet.com/nutrition-info-all you will find all the flavors nutritional info on ME, as fed and DMB basis. :)
My Cleo loves the original flavors...of course those are mostly medium to high carb :rolleyes:. We keep these on hand for other carb options when/if necessary.
We never tried the Pates.
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Wow I didn't know they were a subsidiary of weruva. I have several different cans of weruva pate that I'm going to try & give them as well. My fear is that since they are both on an appetite stimulate & Cerenia that they will like anything right now! I have to buy something today though. I'm really low on Fancy feast unless I open the box with 3 cases of it. Thank you for the link, I will definitely be looking at it first.
 
Angela & Cleo said:
Soulistic is a subsidiary of Weruva sold exclusively in Petco stores. If you go to their website https://www.soulisticpet.com/nutrition-info-all you will find all the flavors nutritional info on ME, as fed and DMB basis. :)
My Cleo loves the original flavors...of course those are mostly medium to high carb :rolleyes:. We keep these on hand for other carb options when/if necessary.
We never tried the Pates.
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What do you feed Cleo?
 
Chrispooky12 said:
I like that one as well. My fear on both of them is there aren't very many flavors of them in the pate. They both have fish flavors but I'm trying to stay away from those. They liked the salmon feast at first than completely turned up there noses. I have a case of it unopened fancy feast that chewy gave me a credit on & told me to donate it.
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I try to avoid fish as well - only once in a while do I allow it. Don’t most Friskies pates have fish in them?
 
Angela & Cleo said:
Soulistic is a subsidiary of Weruva sold exclusively in Petco stores. If you go to their website https://www.soulisticpet.com/nutrition-info-all you will find all the flavors nutritional info on ME, as fed and DMB basis. :)
My Cleo loves the original flavors...of course those are mostly medium to high carb :rolleyes:. We keep these on hand for other carb options when/if necessary.
We never tried the Pates.
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Oh, so it’s Petco. I don’t have Petco near me - only PetsMart. But I feed a lot of the Weruva BFF pate flavors to my cats - especially the older cats. The phosphorus is so much lower in those than a lot of other foods.
 
Suzanne & Darcy said:
I try to avoid fish as well - only once in a while do I allow it. Don’t most Friskies pates have fish in them?
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I don't know about Friskies but I did notice the beef fancy feast has fish in it as an ingredient. Before they stopped eating fancy feast altogether without Mirataz & Cerenia they loved the beef flavor.
 
Chrispooky12 said:
What do you feed Cleo?
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Currently she's on Ziwi peak pates which are super expensive but we had to give it a try because at the beginning of her FD journey most commercial pates and the Purina DM pate kept giving her bouts of diarrhea. We assumed it had to be the ingredients in the commercial diets. We switched to Ziwi peak pates which she took too splendidly.
Prior to dx she was a mix of wet and dry. The wet was Soulistic which she loved as long as it was the original recipe...too high in carbs though. I never gave her the soulistic pate. She used to always turn her nose at pates. The ziwipeak pates she loves so we don't eat out so Cleo can have her food :rolleyes:
 
Angela & Cleo said:
Currently she's on Ziwi peak pates which are super expensive but we had to give it a try because at the beginning of her FD journey most commercial pates and the Purina DM pate kept giving her bouts of diarrhea. We assumed it had to be the ingredients in the commercial diets. We switched to Ziwi peak pates which she took too splendidly.
Prior to dx she was a mix of wet and dry. The wet was Soulistic which she loved as long as it was the original recipe...too high in carbs though. I never gave her the soulistic pate. She used to always turn her nose at pates. The ziwipeak pates she loves so we don't eat out so Cleo can have her food :rolleyes:
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The things we do for our babies :bighug:
 
Panzer & Spook had there first fancy feast/weruva mix. I did half of a 3oz can of weruva BFF play chicken & beef & 3/4 of a can of beef fancy feast divided between the 2 of them. They licked there bowls clean:cat: hopefully it will go as well for the next feeding!
 
Chrispooky12 said:
Panzer & Spook had there first fancy feast/weruva mix. I did half of a 3oz can of weruva BFF play chicken & beef & 3/4 of a can of beef fancy feast divided between the 2 of them. They licked there bowls clean:cat: hopefully it will go as well for the next feeding!
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Keeping all fingers and toes crossed!
 
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