Buddy's SS up and going questions on how to share info

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Teresa & KitKat

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Finally, Buddy's SS is usable. Thanks to Marje and Gracie. I would like to know how anyone else can see the numbers if I ask for help, how could I e-mail the SS to someone else. Any advise that you might have on anything concerning the SS.
 
Finally, Buddy's SS is usable. Thanks to Marje and Gracie. I would like to know how anyone else can see the numbers if I ask for help, how could I e-mail the SS to someone else. Any advise that you might have on anything concerning the SS.
All we have to do is click on "Buddy's Spreadsheet" and it takes us there.

I suggest that you stick with a dose for at least 3 cycles until you amass more info on Buddy's responses. Your 2u dose gave you a low green so you dropped to 1 u. That's OK for now and you should stay there for tonight and tomorrow AM. There are lots of dose options between 1 u and 2u. Do your U40 syringes have half unit markings? That would allow 1.5 u by reading directly as well as 1.25 u and 1.75 u by eyeballing between marks.
 
Finally, Buddy's SS is usable. Thanks to Marje and Gracie. I would like to know how anyone else can see the numbers if I ask for help, how could I e-mail the SS to someone else. Any advise that you might have on anything concerning the SS.
We can see it just fine. Good job getting it going.
 
All right! This is great! I think there is a way to email it to someone like your vet if that is what you wanted...but yes, anyone on this forum can see it just fine.
 
Finally, Buddy's SS is usable. Thanks to Marje and Gracie. I would like to know how anyone else can see the numbers if I ask for help, how could I e-mail the SS to someone else. Any advise that you might have on anything concerning the SS.
I still have a lot more info to enter, but I had to be away later in the day
 
All we have to do is click on "Buddy's Spreadsheet" and it takes us there.

I suggest that you stick with a dose for at least 3 cycles until you amass more info on Buddy's responses. Your 2u dose gave you a low green so you dropped to 1 u. That's OK for now and you should stay there for tonight and tomorrow AM. There are lots of dose options between 1 u and 2u. Do your U40 syringes have half unit markings? That would allow 1.5 u by reading directly as well as 1.25 u and 1.75 u by eyeballing between marks.
I would like to do that if possible. This morning I have him 2 units and now he is @200 so I am afraid to give him 2 units, it is time for injection and I do not know what to give. In the last week he has had at least 2 episodes of very low readings like 41 & 35.
I have been getting up in the middle of the night to test him, but I am afraid he will go hypo in the night and I won't wake up. How many units would you give with a reading like 200.
 
I wouldn't do more than 1. Perhaps even 0.5 as you don't have much data.

See what more experienced ProZinc users suggest though. How long before shot time?

You have 4 and 5 units earliest this week? Those are extremely high doses. Yikes.
 
What was he at this morning when you gave the 2? I agree with Janet, I wouldn't do more than 1.
 
What was he at this morning when you gave the 2? I agree with Janet, I wouldn't do more than 1.
This morning I gave him 2units his reading was 423 and then at 7:53 pm he was at 200. I am really afraid of over dosing. The over dosing was done at the vets and what the vets said should be done.
 
I am going post everything I can later today. I am at odds over what dose to give Buddy, they originally had him on 3units and I was not testing. He went in for curve and they had him on 5units. He went HYPO went he came home from the vet, I called them and I got another vet he said if Bud came back up to 122 to give him 2 units. He only came up to 85 so I did not dose him. The other vet told me to start him out at 4units the next day and I did and guess what happened. I have no idea what kind of a dose he should have, it seems it has either been too high or too low. Then when I tried to use the SS, I had problems with it, so I could not relay all of his info. I have been a mess so worried about Bud and I have 2 other sick cats with other issues.
 
I am going post everything I can later today. I am at odds over what dose to give Buddy, they originally had him on 3units and I was not testing. He went in for curve and they had him on 5units. He went HYPO went he came home from the vet, I called them and I got another vet he said if Bud came back up to 122 to give him 2 units. He only came up to 85 so I did not dose him. The other vet told me to start him out at 4units the next day and I did and guess what happened. I have no idea what kind of a dose he should have, it seems it has either been too high or too low. Then when I tried to use the SS, I had problems with it, so I could not relay all of his info. I have been a mess so worried about Bud and I have 2 other sick cats with other issues.
Take a breath. We will help you. I will say if you are in doubt it's always better to err on the side of caution. Better too high temporarily then too low. A starting dose of 3 units was unsafe. 1 unit is the standard starting dose.

can I suggest a fresh start? We need to stop all the bouncing so we can see what's really happening. Do 1 unit for 3 full days, record all the readings you can.... Then we will reassess and if he needs it raise the dose (by no more then a half unit at a time).

Do others agree?
 
Take a breath. We will help you. I will say if you are in doubt it's always better to err on the side of caution. Better too high temporarily then too low. A starting dose of 3 units was unsafe. 1 unit is the standard starting dose.

can I suggest a fresh start? We need to stop all the bouncing so we can see what's really happening. Do 1 unit for 3 full days, record all the readings you can.... Then we will reassess and if he needs it raise the dose (by no more then a half unit at a time).

Do others agree?
I completely agree. You have to get things settled on a low starting dose, log the numbers on the SS, and proceed in a systematic way with assistance from us. If you could tell us specifically what the SS issues are for you maybe we can help.
 
I also agree. I think you're seeing a lot of bouncing due to a dose that is too high. While some cats do need different doses based on different preshots, a lot of cats actually do better with a steady dose and steady increases when needed.

Why not start again at 1 unit (if over 200) and let's see what's going on? Even if 1 unit is too low, that's okay...we'll slowly and systematically increase it until we hit the right one. I promise, it's super rare for someone to walk in and immediately hit the right dose. We all have to spend some time with our cats in higher numbers while we figure out the right dose...but we WILL. Make sense?

What's going on with the SS?

On a side note, please do remember to BREATHE and relax. I know it's stressful and with 2 other sick cats, I can't imagine. But in the end, remember that Buddy is more than just a number. How does he seem? Does he seem okay and happy? That's important too.
 
I also agree. I think you're seeing a lot of bouncing due to a dose that is too high. While some cats do need different doses based on different preshots, a lot of cats actually do better with a steady dose and steady increases when needed.

Why not start again at 1 unit (if over 200) and let's see what's going on? Even if 1 unit is too low, that's okay...we'll slowly and systematically increase it until we hit the right one. I promise, it's super rare for someone to walk in and immediately hit the right dose. We all have to spend some time with our cats in higher numbers while we figure out the right dose...but we WILL. Make sense?

What's going on with the SS? The SS is fine now. I did start Buddy at 1unit today, last night I gave him .5unit. I thought you only stayed with a dose for 3 doses not 3 days. I wasted all last week because I did not know what to do. Buddy is supposed to go in for a curve on 2/1/17 and I do not want him to go. I was hoping to have things worked out by then. I feel like when he went in for curve they gave him too much insulin. The animal hospital is nice because they take after hrs. call but I cannot subject Buddy To that much insulin again. Buddy is a real sweetheart and they think so also, the vet told me he was very happy being there not like the cat beside him. Buddy did have a regular vet but she only works 3days a week, does not take call and neither do the other vets who work with her. Some of this

On a side note, please do remember to BREATHE and relax. I know it's stressful and with 2 other sick cats, I can't imagine. But in the end, remember that Buddy is more than just a number. How does he seem? Does he seem okay and happy? That's important too.
 
You don't need to bring him in for a curve. You can do it at home and let your vet know what numbers you got. :)
 
All we have to do is click on "Buddy's Spreadsheet" and it takes us there.

I suggest that you stick with a dose for at least 3 cycles until you amass more info on Buddy's responses. Your 2u dose gave you a low green so you dropped to 1 u. That's OK for now and you should stay there for tonight and tomorrow AM. There are lots of dose options between 1 u and 2u. Do your U40 syringes have half unit markings? That would allow 1.5 u by reading directly as well as 1.25 u and 1.75 u by eyeballing between marks.
I gave Buddy .05 last night because of 224 reading, this morning I gave 1u and his readings have been high all day, I took it @ 5:15 exactly 1 hr ago and it was 417, and that scares me. My u40 syringes do not have half unit markings. Is it not dangerous to stay @ 1u with a reading of 417.
 
I wouldn't do more than 1. Perhaps even 0.5 as you don't have much data.

See what more experienced ProZinc users suggest though. How long before shot time?

You have 4 and 5 units earliest this week? Those are extremely high doses. Yikes.
I gave Buddy 1u this morning and his numbers have been high all day. The last reading I took was @417. I am going to give him a shot probably with in 1hr to 1 1/2 hrs. would not that be too high a number to only give 1u.
 
I wouldn't do more than 1. Perhaps even 0.5 as you don't have much data.

See what more experienced ProZinc users suggest though. How long before shot time?

You have 4 and 5 units earliest this week? Those are extremely high doses. Yikes.
Today I gave Buddy 1 unit this morning and @5:15 p.m. he is @417, that scares me. Is it safe to give him 1u this p.m., I really don't know what to do. I do not want any harm to come to Buddy, I love him very much.
 
I wouldn't do more than 1. Perhaps even 0.5 as you don't have much data.

See what more experienced ProZinc users suggest though. How long before shot time?

You have 4 and 5 units earliest this week? Those are extremely high doses. Yikes.
I gave Buddy 1u this morning and @ 5:15p.m. his reading was 417. Would that be dangerous to give him 1u, which he is to have a shot pretty soon. The 5uwas done while he was @the vet for a curve. I called the vets office because of a low reading and he told me to give him 4u the next morning. That is the only time I gave him 4u.
 
I completely agree. You have to get things settled on a low starting dose, log the numbers on the SS, and proceed in a systematic way with assistance from us. If you could tell us specifically what the SS issues are for you maybe we can help.
I gave Buddy 1u this morning and his numbers have been high all day. The last reading I took was @5:15p.m. and it was @417. I was going to give him 1u tonight, but I am afraid that is numbers are too high for 1u. When everyone says 3 cycles, do they mean days or doses. I will be dosing pretty soon.
 
I completely agree. You have to get things settled on a low starting dose, log the numbers on the SS, and proceed in a systematic way with assistance from us. If you could tell us specifically what the SS issues are for you maybe we can help.
I gave him 1u this morning and his numbers have been high all day. The last reading I took was @5:15p.m. and it was @417, that scares me. He is almost due for a shot.
 
All we have to do is click on "Buddy's Spreadsheet" and it takes us there.

I suggest that you stick with a dose for at least 3 cycles until you amass more info on Buddy's responses. Your 2u dose gave you a low green so you dropped to 1 u. That's OK for now and you should stay there for tonight and tomorrow AM. There are lots of dose options between 1 u and 2u. Do your U40 syringes have half unit markings? That would allow 1.5 u by reading directly as well as 1.25 u and 1.75 u by eyeballing between marks.[/QUOTE My u40 syringes do not have half unit markings. I gave Buddy 1u this morning. His last reading was @417 and that was at 5:15 pm. It is almost time for a dose, what amount would suggest.
 
I completely agree. You have to get things settled on a low starting dose, log the numbers on the SS, and proceed in a systematic way with assistance from us. If you could tell us specifically what the SS issues are for you maybe we can help.
I gave him 1u this morning, and at last reading he was @417. it is almost time for another dose, should he stay @1u.
 
I gave him 1u this morning and his numbers have been high all day. The last reading I took was @5:15p.m. and it was @417, that scares me. He is almost due for a shot.
No need to be frightened by a high number. The goal is to get them down over time but they're not immediately dangerous like a very low hypo number is.
 
I see bright green squares with zero inside on your spreadsheet. I don't understand what they mean. Also, I see 0.05 for the PM dose yesterday. Did you mean 0.5 unit? I need clarification to be able to understand your SS.
 
You need to keep whatever dose is decided on this PM for a few cycles. I see that you've changed dose in response to the BG number a few times. This is a technique we use but only after there's a lot of data on the SS showing how the kitty responds to the insulin. You're not there yet. For now consistency is what you want.
 
I see bright green squares with zero inside on your spreadsheet. I don't understand what they mean. Also, I see 0.05 for the PM dose yesterday. Did you mean 0.5 unit? I need clarification to be able to understand your SS.
Yes, I meant 0.5u, also I do not have everything in, I got to the point I could not read my own writing. I have some numbers in the wrong spot, I decided to stop for a little while and answer these post.
 
When he 1st got sick he was in the 400s and he would not eat anything, I do not want that to happen again
I understand but you still need to be systematic in your dosing instead of being frightened into changing the dose because of one number. This can cause the BG to jump all over the place which makes dosing decisions very hard.
 
Yes, I meant 0.5u, also I do not have everything in, I got to the point I could not read my own writing. I have some numbers in the wrong spot, I decided to stop for a little while and answer these post.
OK. However, I need to know what the zeroes mean. No test done?

The safest dose for now while you get your SS data straightened out is 1 unit. You could try going to 1.25 unit by eyeballing 1.5 unit and letting out a little bit of insulin so you're past the 1 unit mark. I wouldn't go higher than that yet. Whatever is decided on this evening should be kept tomorrow AM and PM. Post here tomorrow PM with any test numbers you have to see if a dose adjustment should be made.
 
What was he at this morning when you gave the 2? I agree with Janet, I wouldn't do more than 1.
He was @423. This morning he was @389 & I gave him 1unit. His reading is at 417 do you think he should stay at 1u. it is almost time for his dose of insulin.
 
He was @423. This morning he was @389 & I gave him 1unit. His reading is at 417 do you think he should stay at 1u. it is almost time for his dose of insulin.
I suggested trying 1.25 u. See my post just above (post #32). Have to go dose my cat. Back soon.
 
It's up to you. Do you feel comfortable trying the 1.25 technique Kris mentioned above?
 
OK. However, I need to know what the zeroes mean. No test done?

The safest dose for now while you get your SS data straightened out is 1 unit. You could try going to 1.25 unit by eyeballing 1.5 unit and letting out a little bit of insulin so you're past the 1 unit mark. I wouldn't go higher than that yet. Whatever is decided on this evening should be kept tomorrow AM and PM. Post here tomorrow PM with any test numbers you have to see if a dose adjustment should be made.
That sounds great, and I will post tomorrow with numbers.
 
Awesome! I think this is going to be good...slow but steady, we'll get Buddy into a good place.
 
I see bright green squares with zero inside on your spreadsheet. I don't understand what they mean. Also, I see 0.05 for the PM dose yesterday. Did you mean 0.5 unit? I need clarification to be able to understand your SS.
My mistake the 0 are where I posted in the wrong spot so I put in a 0. I will go back and take them out.
 
I see bright green squares with zero inside on your spreadsheet. I don't understand what they mean. Also, I see 0.05 for the PM dose yesterday. Did you mean 0.5 unit? I need clarification to be able to understand your SS.
The 0 mean nothing, I will get them of the SS next time, and you are right about the dose.
 
I am going to try it.
I took another reading @8:00 p.m. and he was @ 389, I eye balled the syringe and tried my best to hit 1.25 and gave the shot. I have u-100 syringes here for Methotrexate injections, if I had the conversion chart I might get it right.
 
I took another reading @8:00 p.m. and he was @ 389, I eye balled the syringe and tried my best to hit 1.25 and gave the shot. I have u-100 syringes here for Methotrexate injections, if I had the conversion chart I might get it right.
How many hours before this reading did you give his insulin?
 
This morning I gave his insulin @8:40 and tonight I took that number @7:35 p.m., why do you ask.
I wanted to know what the BG was in relation to the timing of the dose. That gives an indication of how the dose is working. Are you dosing at 12 hour intervals?
 
I wanted to know what the BG was in relation to the timing of the dose. That gives an indication of how the dose is working. Are you dosing at 12 hour intervals?
I am now, when he was in the hospital they did at 7am & 5pm, when he came home I used there schedule, but I have changed to 12hr, sometimes I am off a few minutes or even 1/2 hour.
 
I am now, when he was in the hospital they did at 7am & 5pm, when he came home I used there schedule, but I have changed to 12hr, sometimes I am off a few minutes or even 1/2 hour.
There's some flexibility in the timing of doses with ProZinc. We aim for every 12 hours but a few minutes up to a half hour isn't a problem. I suggest you add tonight's dose and BG test number to your SS so it's up to date.
 
There's some flexibility in the timing of doses with ProZinc. We aim for every 12 hours but a few minutes up to a half hour isn't a problem. I suggest you add tonight's dose and BG test number to your SS so it's up to date.
Guess I did not see this last night. This morning Buddy is at 212 last night I gave him 1.25, do you think I should stay with This or go down to 1u.
 
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