Switch back to fancy feast?

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Pudden's numbers are still going up into the 130s even though I switched to Sheba. She gets diarrhea from the chicken pate Sheba and is only getting turkey pate now.

I have it written down that back in May she went up to 118 and I was feeding her Sheba pate beef. I stopped all Sheba foods and never had a high number again until this November. I figured now though that it was a fluke and had nothing to do with the Sheba since I am reading everywhere it is safe.

But I still wonder, could she react to Sheba with a little bit higher numbers than FF?

On the night I caught the first 145 she had been pawing at the dog's food bag and we thought that maybe she got into it. She went down the next day, but then went up a few days later and has been throwing higher than normal numbers since. This is why I switched food as I though maybe the FF was no longer safe and was pulling her out of remission.

I can't see her tolerating one flavor forever, which is what I like so much about FF and the variety it provides. Are there any updates on which flavors are no longer safe? Is it only chicken and turkey and giblets that have changed?

I would try Pro plan grain free, but it's 99 cents a can which would come out costing twice as much as FF per month and I can't afford that. Sad I know. I also don't want to upset her tummy anymore since she had diarrhea 3 days ago.

I am afraid to switch her back, but things aren't going so great on the sheba anyway. She has started to always stay high and doesn't go down as much after eating. She was diagnosed with facial paralysis on the right side last Thursday and the vet thought it was maybe from a virus since she had been sneezing the previous week and her right eye was watery. This could be what is causing the high BG and it has nothing to do with food. I don't know though.

Her face seems to be improving, but sadly her BG is not. Her numbers are highest when fasting and go down a few hours after eating. This to me indicates her liver feels she is ill and is dumping sugar into her blood stream. The problem is I can't figure out why. The only off thing is like I said the face paralysis which is very slight and certainly not the worst thing she has endured since achieving remission.
 
If she was doing OK on the Fancy Feast and she wasn't vomiting or having diarrhea, there's no reason you shouldn't continue to feed it

I've read all the posts about the "change" in Fancy Feasts too, but my own cat hasn't had any problems with it and continues to have excellent numbers.

Remember, ECID....this includes how they might react to a minor food formula change
 
I used Sheba. IMO it seemed greasy and or fattier than other foods. I never noticed it affecting Smokey numbers. Since Smokey needed weight on I could free feed it to him as the others wouldn't eat it.
 
I agree that Sheba seems more fatty. There is always a gel on the bottom of the can which to me is pure fat. I gave her FF liver and chicken and she went down to 81 in two hours. She was 117 this morning. I'm going to write down the percentages and ingredients for the can and then cross check it with any new ones. This way I can catch it if I get a new formula can. I will probably be avoiding the turkey and giblets as well as the chicken for a while until all of this gets sorted out with the possible changes. I'm going to feed the other classics flavors though and watch her numbers. Maybe they will go down.
 
Squallie is very carb-sensitive, and wasn't doing well on FF Classics any longer, so I switched to Pro Plan True Nature, and Squallie is doing really well on them, a lot better than when he was on FF. I buy them at Petco or Chewy.com and they are only a couple of $$ more per case than the FF. Sometimes you can find them on Jet.com, too. I always look for the lowest price, because I am feeding it to four cats! Sheba made Squallie's BG go up, too, although he loved it (all my cats love Sheba).
 
I'm glad to hear I'm not nuts. I thought when it went up in May it was from the beef Sheba. From my understanding beef anything is always a little higher in carbs, but I am only feeding Turkey pate at the moment. This time though I think more is going on with her health, but I'm sure the Sheba isn't helping. Which flavors of the Pro Plan True Nature do you feed Squallie?
 
I thought when it went up in May it was from the beef Sheba. From my understanding beef anything is always a little higher in carbs,
It might be the beef protein which caused the spike in numbers; some cats are sensitive to it.


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I'm glad to hear I'm not nuts. I thought when it went up in May it was from the beef Sheba. From my understanding beef anything is always a little higher in carbs, but I am only feeding Turkey pate at the moment. This time though I think more is going on with her health, but I'm sure the Sheba isn't helping. Which flavors of the Pro Plan True Nature do you feed Squallie?
I feed mostly the turkey & chicken and the chicken & liver. Sometimes they'll get either the whitefish & salmon or the beef & giblets for lunch (because they only get a small amount of food at lunch-time).
 
I feed mostly the turkey & chicken and the chicken & liver. Sometimes they'll get either the whitefish & salmon or the beef & giblets for lunch (because they only get a small amount of food at lunch-time).

I just went to Petsmart and checked the FF tender liver and chicken. The protein went down from 11% to 10% which calculates to higher carbs. They did change the formula and are flat out lying about it. What a shame.

I bought some more Sheba pate to have on hand, but went ahead and bought some cans of the Purina pro plan liver and chicken.

She seems to like it ok, but hopefully I can get her to eat it if I sprinkle freeze dried chicken on it. I am seriously thinking about making my own food. I will be looking into pre mixes to start since I can't afford a grinder for bones. It would be easier to feed her pro plan, but it is owned by Purina and I don't trust them at all any longer.

I have no idea if the FF changes caused the higher numbers, but it is a big coincidence and she might come out of remission because of it. Making my own food might have prevented this. I am mad at myself for not investigating it further last year, but I was so overwhelmed with everything else that I chose not to.
 
I know they claim there is no change in their formulas, but all my cats ate FF Classic Turkey & Giblets quite happily for almost 18 months, then suddenly everybody was having tummy upsets and Squallie's BG was rising. I changed to Purina Pro Plan True Nature and tummies got better - except my IBD baby - and BG went down. I have a hard time believing that was coincidence. And I'm really upset because, not only did it create longer-lasting problems with Squallie's higher numbers, my poor little IBD girl is still trying to get her digestion back to normal. :mad:Once something throws her off it takes a LONG time and LOTS of unhappy diarrhea to get her sorted out again. I agree with you , too, about not trusting Purina any more, but for now I'll keep using the True Nature because all four of mine can eat it, I have easy access to it, and it's affordable for me - hard to do with most foods, for four cats!
 
I agree with you , too, about not trusting Purina any more, but
I feel the same way about Mars Petfoods after they screwed around with the UK Sheba Fine Flakes pouches. When I called them about formula changes they denied the change, too, but the as fed analysis on the actual pouch made liars of them.

As a slight aside, even the as fed analysis on their own product website is incorrect so if people don't check the actual packs they won't know the recipe has changed (unless, like it has been for myself and others, it makes their cats sick). :(


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It's a shame how the pet industry is not obligated to be more transparent. I'm sorry to hear of all the troubles your kitties have been having guys. I understand how hard it is to find good food that works for all of our cats and is affordable too. I only have Pudden now and even I struggle.

For now I agree the purina pro plan is the most affordable and best option. I have been switching her food around way two much these past few weeks trying to find something that works, so I will be leaving her on the pro plan for a few months until she settles. I probably will also incorporate the Purina One chicken and beef here and there for variety Hopefully Purina won't do anything during that time. After that I will be transitioning her to a home cooked diet using the EZ complete pre-mix by Food Fur Life. This way there won't be anymore worries about food.

I don't know how long it will take for her numbers to normalize or if they even are going to. It may be to late, but if so hopefully a short time on insulin will get her back into remission.
 
I'm leery of Purina products now too. They tell me nothing has changed but something sure had. I have been trying Pro Plan True Nature after the FF didn't work for Sarge anymore. The Turkey & Giblets started making him throw up and gave him the runs. Then he started refusing the Chicken Classic. When he did eat it seemed like his numbers were high. I grabbed some low carb 9Lives to buy myself some time to explore foods and he had his best week ever. I started him on True Nature mixed with Wild Calling Trottin Tommy and it seemed ok at first but is numbers steadily increased. After a case of True Nature he was high and flat again. As an experiment I gave him just Wild Calling Trottin Tommy yesterday and he came right down and was still dropping by PMPS. I actually had to skip him last night and for awhile he surfed in the 60's. He was high this morning but it was an impressive night without a PM shot. That was after two dose increases since resuming Purina products. I'm still experimenting but I'm thinking the three unopened cases of True Nature are going back. I wish I could get him to take to raw. I'm trying but it's slow going. So far Diesel (one of our two non-sugar cats) is starting to really like Rad Cat turkey and chicken. If I can get all three boys to eat the premade raw I too would love to try making my own. From what I understand you can make big batches and freeze it so it kind of spreads the work out.
 
!!!! I know exactly what you're going through! Fluffy was fed FF Chicken, Turkey & Giblets, and Beef Classics, UNTIL I ****heard**** on here that they raised the carb content. :nailbiting: Fluffy was being raised by mom at the time so she didn't test him at all... but he moved in with me recently to my apartment, and I ordered Purina Pro Plan True Nature Grain Free Turkey & Chicken (because a lot of people had a lot of really good reviews on it over here) so I ordered them in bulk (72 5.5 0x cans for like 50 bucks which includes free 1-2 shipping) which was a steal considering at petsmart I paid like 35 bucks for 24 cans? :facepalm: Of course ECID but the carb content should be about, I want to say 1-3%.
 
he moved in with me recently to my apartment,

Very good to hear this news, Nat!

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Very good to hear this news, Nat!

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AHHH MOGS yesssssss :bighug::bighug::bighug: I am so happy I can watch him carefully! But our apartment doesn't allow pets :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: I've had our first notification the other day where I had to zip him out for a few hours at my boyfriend's so Fluff wouldn't be spotted while the property owners showed a potential leaser around :banghead:
 
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