pyelonephritis...euthanize??

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allison and Bubbles

allison and Bubbles

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Hi everyone...my cat Mor Mor had an ultrasound done yesterday as he has had pain and nausea (well controlled with bupe and cerenia) for about two months now...the vet told me he has pyelonephritis yesterday determined by the ultrasound ...but has "no kidney infection " and his urynalysis came out clear ...I am confused and bewildered to say the least as I thought pyelonephritis was a treatable kidney infection ...my vet advised euthanasia more or less...my question is wouldn't it be ok to keep Mor Mor a little longer as long as he is still comfortable? He does appear to be in some pain as the bupe wheres off and this is disturbing but cant his bupe be increased from .2ml ?he is ten pds...he is sleeping alot but he still eats and doesnt appear nauseated all the time and still stretches and does "cat things"...still jumps with ease and wanders the front yard...I just cant believe the vet seems to think euthanasia is in order...any thoughts?? Obviously this is devestating and I would never keep Mor if I thought he was in any discomfort or pain or nausea that seemed uncontrolled...does pain and nausea only get worse or does it come and go with this disease?...Appreciate any thoughts or experiences ....very sad day...
 
I am not familiar with the condition either, but if it is treatable then I would ask the vet to do that. You may want to consider getting a second opinion to determine if the diagnosis is accurate. And if your vet will not treat your cat then find a vet who will.
 
Your vet should know this treatment plan & try to help. I just don’t get that I guess. I’d go elsewhere if he won’t treat it. I’d also have copies on hand of all the tests he’s done to show a new vet. I know it’s a difficult situation but if it can be treated with antibiotics, I would want to know. Bless you my dear! Life gets tough with our furbabies, I know... :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Thank you guys and gals...yes I have a brand new vet to see not soon enough in two days...I am floored by what my "vet"? had to say ...just shelled out six bills to try and find any way to save his life and that was the response I got...pyelonephritis is in fact a treatable kidney infection and the u/s indicated this ....my blood is boiling that he may have had this two months now...I am speechless and sad Mor has had to endure this...thank you all again...
 
Very sorry you and Mor Mor are going through this. I don't know about this condition, but I'm so glad you're going to get another opinion and care options. Wishing you comfort and healing--and good news from the vet!

(Even when things aren't curable, I agree with you that eating and doing "cat things" mean it isn't time. We can take things day by day, and sometimes we get many good days before we have to make the final decision.)
 
I'm getting confused by the different test results, opinions and advice Allison is getting from vets. On Monday Mor was coming home, then not coming home, then something else altogether. It's not you Allison.
Three years ago we were told to "go for it" and have all Noah's teeth pulled by the same vet who said he had only a 10% chance of surviving anesthesia. What kind of advice was that? I know some things are hard to diagnose but Allison is a real person and MorMor is not a test subject.
 
Mor Mor is 16...part of the problem is the vet l have been going to does not speak English very well at all and I have to continue to ask him to repeat himself...all the vets at this clinic that I have been going to are poor communicators as English is their second language...two of them are clearly annoyed by all of my questions...hard to believe with all the money I have spent there....only reason I chose this clinic is that no other vets were willing to prescribe ongoing cerenia OR buprenephrine...it has been extremely stressful and I am switching to a different clinic that has an awesome reputation yet they will not prescribe ongoing cerenia so I still have to see the original clinic to get the meds I need for him...talk about awkward...I will be so relieved to find a vet I can communicate easily with...and maybe even trust...I sure hope I can get some solid answers and not "possibilities "...I might actually get a good night's sleep ...barely slept in two months bc my furbaby's life has been in the hands of a group of vets that have been substandard...
 
sry folks I have two different threads going at the same time I just realized...not sure how to combine them at this point....I had two seperate issues going on...thank you all for your patience with this and of course for your support ...
 
Hi Sharon ...yes I will start a new thread after the appointment...it is tommorow. .I am real nervous .....not sure what they she is going to say and I am not sure if she is the one interpreting the ultrasound ....all Mors recotds have been sent to her...she has a wonderful reputation online....oh boy....tough times...Mor Mor is not feeling well today...
 
well like many folks have said some days are not going to be as good as others...in the beginning of all of this with Mor Mor I was not prepared to ever let him suffer even a little bit for ONE day....how your perspective can change though dramatically....you sort of learn as you go with this uncharted territory ...there is nothing comfortable about being out of your comfort zone...!
 
thx guys...you are my only support ....my stomach is tumbling...one hr til the vet...Mor Mor was no nauseated last night I gave him extra cerenia...I know it isn't protocol but I felt desperate for him ...and I think it really helped...has anyone done this occasionally for their kitties??
 
For whatever reason Cerenia has never worked for me so I can't comment on that. I have broken a lot of rules with a sick cat, I can't stand watching pain. I've given Noah's BUPE to cats with UTI and vets always said it was okay because pain makes them miserable and less receptive to being poked and prodded. Are you getting enough sleep and eating right Allison? These are long days. :blackeye: :bighug:
 
Hello friends!! I am sooooo relieved Mor Mor does not have pyelonephritis....!!!
I have quite alot of faith in this new vet bc she has been in practice thirty yrs and she seems concise and definitive and doesnt have that guessing wondering look on her face one bit...no need for great bedside manner ...she also deals with ppl from the richest snobbiest end of town which gives me more confidence in her (cant explain that demographic reaction of mine but it makes sense to me for some reason)....she also said he can have significantly more pain meds if necessary which is an enormous relief...she cant tell me I am "allowed " to give him extra cerenia bc its not in the rule books but she wasnt vehemently opposed to it at all so I am going to up his cerenia dose if he seems over nauseated...
So this is relatively good news...I did not want to add another pill to his diet of meds ...I havent told anyone else this great news ...you folks are more like my friends than the ppl I am around in "real" life...
I was so nervous leaving the house today that I forgot to change into my shoes...showed up in bed slippers....lolol!
 
Maybe you found a vet that actually listens to you. Make sure the pain meds don't mask whatever else is going on and BOTH of you need a weekend off.
 
thanks you guys!!I believe what she thinks is wrong with him was basically inferred...ckd advancement ...she just said keep up the 100ccs every night as this is critical...she said what I need to do is make sure he gets his mirtazepine and as long as he is eating enough (maintaining his weight now)...he will just go on as such...he is out roaming the yard now and his increased bup is really helping...I guess there could be something else going on...cancer of some kind but so far nothing has pointed to anything other than ckd...I am not sure what the pain or discomfort is actually from...I imagined it would be from his kidneys or level of toxicity affecting something in his system...for now I am just very grateful he doesn't have pyelonephritis....the vet agreed with me about quality of life being paramount and being cornered over and over for more pills affects that...I have to agree...ultimately she said if he stops eating he would need to be hospitalized ...I don't think Mor is a candidate for hospitalization ...he is simply terrified to be out of his element....
Thx to all for your support...and Dickson you are right...time for some downtime and rest...have a great weekend ....hope you are all well and of course your kitties too!
 
I kind of go bonkers whenever pain management is talked about so I may not be the best person to talk about that with. Doctors like to talk about it but never actually do anything about it. :banghead: Don't worry about leaving the house in slippers, I live in sweatpants and tee shirts. :rolleyes:
 
Dickson you must live somewhere near me as far as pain "management " goes...(l.live in Vancouver Canada )...there seems to be some kind of perception at least here that pain is of no real concern...basically as long as you are still breathing you are low on the care priority list.......if anyone wants pain mgmet here the LAST place you go is the medical community ...lol...thc Sharon and Becky for well wishes...ttyou all later...its the weekend!!Have a good one!
 
Allison, when I began posting on the FDMB, you were one of the people who first reached out to me, you were so kind. I have been following your story and am so happy to hear the good news about Mor Mor. Hugs to you both :bighug:
Love Scout & Susan
 
I might have flown over your house this month Allison. There's a lot of donut-eaters here eh!
We just came back from Nanaimo with stops in Vancouver, Cranbrook and Calgary.
@Tracey&Jones , @Kris & Teasel , @Judy and Boomer , @Wendy&Neko among others all know what a double-double is and what "free" health care gets you. A poke in the eye mostly.:blackeye:
We live under a flight path into Toronto so for once in my life I looked out the window of an airplane and I actually could see my house from here! (the Walmart and water tower anyways). Cynthia will be coming back soon with the dog no one wants from Cranbrook. That's another dysfunctional family story.
Hail our glorious leader! :rolleyes: :smuggrin: :woot: j'ai un chat! :joyful:
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Noah & me (GA) said:
I might have flown over your house this month Allison. There's a lot of donut-eaters here eh!
We just came back from Nanaimo with stops in Vancouver, Cranbrook and Calgary.
@Tracey&Jones , @Kris & Teasel , @Judy and Boomer , @Wendy&Neko among others all know what a double-double is and what "free" health care gets you. A poke in the eye mostly.:blackeye:
We live under a flight path into Toronto so for once in my life I looked out the window of an airplane and I actually could see my house from here! (the Walmart and water tower anyways). Cynthia will be coming back soon with the dog no one wants from Cranbrook. That's another dysfunctional family story.
Hail our glorious leader! :rolleyes: :smuggrin: :woot: j'ai un chat! :joyful:
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That poor dog. Even if you don't want him, I am glad he will be with you. You won't mistreat him. I have a feeling he's a new friend in the making.
 
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