Bear & Lora
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Ok, see if that looks correct. I guess you lose the green color when you add additional numbers?
Prozinc Dosing 4 Bear the unpredictable
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MrWorfMen's Mom
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Ok so I think it should read 64 @ +5 and 76 @ +5.25. Yes, you have to manually colour the box when you put in extra numbers. In this case green. Should you have one green and one blue number for instance, I always used the colour for the lowest reading in the box. Do you know how to manually colour the box? If not I will send instructions.
Bear & Lora
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I changed the sequence of numbers but I can't seem to space it like yours. No I don't know how to add green. So I know it wasn't an hour since his last poke but the +6 should be around 3:10 according to the shot time.
MrWorfMen's Mom
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To colour the box with multiple entries, select that box.
On the toolbar, look for the paint can icon.
Click on the can and it will drop down a menu of colours. The green will likely be one of the custom colours at the bottom.
Select the green and voila!
The only thing different is the spacing. Hit the space bar a couple of times between the readings and that will separate them onto a new line.
He is surfing beautifully right now. Go Bear!
On the toolbar, look for the paint can icon.
Click on the can and it will drop down a menu of colours. The green will likely be one of the custom colours at the bottom.
Select the green and voila!
The only thing different is the spacing. Hit the space bar a couple of times between the readings and that will separate them onto a new line.
He is surfing beautifully right now. Go Bear!
Bear & Lora
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Check, got the correct spacing now how do I color?
Is that 82BG a bad thing? It isn't much higher than that 76BG after giving Bear a whole ounce of Chkn,Salmon&Gravy.
Bear & Lora
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Surfing huh?
Bear & Lora
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I like your kitty surfer, lol. I think I will try to figure out coloring a little later when I feel meditation calmness.
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Surfing in safe greens is the absolutely best thing ever! 
I'd test him again at +7.
I'd test him again at +7.
Bear & Lora
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Soooo Linda, I am fully on board with lowering his insulin. Yesterday (Wednesday) and the day before Bear's diet was fully low carb, today it has been 1/3 high carb and seemed to only make small differences in his BG. I totally get that green numbers are wonderful but if high carb is just keeping him surfing in green, it would seem his insulin dose is too high.
What do you think? I have been wrong in some of my conclusions which I thought were logical at the time because I was reacting to one number instead of the full picture. When that 548 BG came up I automatically thought his insulin dose is too low or he wouldn't have made the black range.
I will be at the hospital part of the day tomorrow and I won't be able to monitor as much.
Soooo Linda, I am fully on board with lowering his insulin. Yesterday (Wednesday) and the day before Bear's diet was fully low carb, today it has been 1/3 high carb and seemed to only make small differences in his BG. I totally get that green numbers are wonderful but if high carb is just keeping him surfing in green, it would seem his insulin dose is too high.
What do you think? I have been wrong in some of my conclusions which I thought were logical at the time because I was reacting to one number instead of the full picture. When that 548 BG came up I automatically thought his insulin dose is too low or he wouldn't have made the black range.
I will be at the hospital part of the day tomorrow and I won't be able to monitor as much.
Kris & Teasel
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You've hit on the condundrum we all face at some point: do I dose to get his numbers into low dark greens and use food to accomplish that or do I give myself a little breathing room so that I don't have to hover/feed so much? What you decide depends on many things including whether you'll be around to monitor and intervene, what your goals are with respect to regulation, how your kitty tends to respond (moderately versus dramatically), etc.
MrWorfMen's Mom
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I echo Kris' sentiments totally. It is a bit of dilemma and even more so when Bear hasn't been particularly predictable. This is when I think we all have to consider what our tolerances/ability to monitor are. In the big scheme of things and on the positive side, you got some really good data today and while high carb fed when you got the lower reading, didn't shoot him to the moon, it did keep him surfing beautifully and you only fed him once.
On the other hand, this is his first day of surfing and he may or may not be totally finished with his surprises, so if you are going to be fretting all day tomorrow, I think your wellbeing should be a major consideration in any decision. I think it's safe to say that most if not all of us have had times when we reduced a dose rather than worrying all day.
Why not check him around +9 or +10 and see what he's up to for tonight.
I'm assuming leaving food out is problematic with Squantch (I think that is a very cute original name!)...another thing you need to take into consideration. I always ended up going overboard leaving food out because of my geriatric guy who nibbles, my middle child who immediately capitulates to Menace and Menace who will knock any of her siblings out of their dish if not supervised.
On the other hand, this is his first day of surfing and he may or may not be totally finished with his surprises, so if you are going to be fretting all day tomorrow, I think your wellbeing should be a major consideration in any decision. I think it's safe to say that most if not all of us have had times when we reduced a dose rather than worrying all day.
Why not check him around +9 or +10 and see what he's up to for tonight.
I'm assuming leaving food out is problematic with Squantch (I think that is a very cute original name!)...another thing you need to take into consideration. I always ended up going overboard leaving food out because of my geriatric guy who nibbles, my middle child who immediately capitulates to Menace and Menace who will knock any of her siblings out of their dish if not supervised.
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Just checking in to see how you and Bear are doing. Looks like he may need a little dose increase.......
Looks like he may need a little dose increase.......
Bear & Lora
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Just checking in to see how you and Bear are doing.
I was leaning that way myself. The only reason I haven't been asking you about an increase is lately I haven't been home hardly at all and that will continue for a while. I wasn't sure with his panicky liver if an increase would be safe when I am not home to test him. His BG numbers have been less bouncy but do you think a .25 increase could send him bouncing enough to be dangerous to his safety with no one to monitor him? His numbers have stayed predominately pink a few reds and then he starts to throw out a few yellows.
Linda, what do you think?
Bear & Lora
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Just checking in to see how you and Bear are doing.
I posted the rest of his BG numbers for today.
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Hi Lora,
I honestly think that with his current readings, you'd be fine upping the dose to 2u. He does seem to be a little more stable and he hasn't seen a blue or green reading for days. If he's in the red or mid to high pinks at pre-shot, I'd try 2u. If he is lower than that at pre-shot, you can always back the dose down a bit when you know you can't monitor. The problem with leaving him in those high numbers is that he gets used to them and then it gets harder to get them down again. Granted you don't want him pulling any crazy stunts when you are not there but he's got a fair bit of room to drop into better numbers.
I know this is a lot to ask, but is there any way for you to get a later reading during the night cycle say between +5 and +7? It looks to me like he may be going a bit lower at night (a common occurrence) and we're just not seeing it and that is what is giving you the red pre-shots in the AM. If you can get readings in that time frame a couple of times, it might shed more light on what he's up to.
I honestly think that with his current readings, you'd be fine upping the dose to 2u. He does seem to be a little more stable and he hasn't seen a blue or green reading for days. If he's in the red or mid to high pinks at pre-shot, I'd try 2u. If he is lower than that at pre-shot, you can always back the dose down a bit when you know you can't monitor. The problem with leaving him in those high numbers is that he gets used to them and then it gets harder to get them down again. Granted you don't want him pulling any crazy stunts when you are not there but he's got a fair bit of room to drop into better numbers.
I know this is a lot to ask, but is there any way for you to get a later reading during the night cycle say between +5 and +7? It looks to me like he may be going a bit lower at night (a common occurrence) and we're just not seeing it and that is what is giving you the red pre-shots in the AM. If you can get readings in that time frame a couple of times, it might shed more light on what he's up to.
Bear & Lora
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Hi Lora,
I honestly think that with his current readings, you'd be fine upping the dose to 2u. He does seem to be a little more stable and he hasn't seen a blue or green reading for days. If he's in the red or mid to high pinks at pre-shot, I'd try 2u. If he is lower than that at pre-shot, you can always back the dose down a bit when you know you can't monitor. The problem with leaving him in those high numbers is that he gets used to them and then it gets harder to get them down again. Granted you don't want him pulling any crazy stunts when you are not there but he's got a fair bit of room to drop into better numbers.
I know this is a lot to ask, but is there any way for you to get a later reading during the night cycle say between +5 and +7? It looks to me like he may be going a bit lower at night (a common occurrence) and we're just not seeing it and that is what is giving you the red pre-shots in the AM. If you can get readings in that time frame a couple of times, it might shed more light on what he's up to.
I'll do it. I am hard to go to sleep (usually takes an hour to hour and 30 min.) then I am hard to wake. I know I have some kind of stupid sleep disorder. My son didn't believe me when I told him I followed all his suggestions and they didn't work for me until he actually saw me take melatonin, benadryl, and wine without affect, then 30 minutes later another melatonin and then different combinations the next few nights.
My husband got me a better Fitbit which logs time slept, awake plus the amount of time in the different sleep stages. Sadly it documents that I am abnormal, Lol.
I'll just stay up till the +7.
Let's see what Bear is doing under the cover of night.
Do we want a +5, +6 and +7?
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Ok so I take it you don't wake up to go to the ladies or such at night. That used to be my trick to get those odd hour tests in although I admit, I usually didn't get back to sleep afterward for quite awhile. I really didn't mean for you to stay up ALL NIGHT! and with everything else going on right now, I frankly wish I hadn't asked. You need to get some rest even if it isn't the best. I was really suggesting getting one test at different times over a few nights not even in succession necessarily. You need your rest so just do what you can without making yourself sick or so exhausted you can't function. 
Bear & Lora
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Ok so I take it you don't wake up to go to the ladies or such at night. That used to be my trick to get those odd hour tests in although I admit, I usually didn't get back to sleep afterward for quite awhile. I really didn't mean for you to stay up ALL NIGHT! and with everything else going on right now, I frankly wish I hadn't asked. You need to get some rest even if it isn't the best. I was really suggesting getting one test at different times over a few nights not even in succession necessarily. You need your rest so just do what you can without making yourself sick or so exhausted you can't function.
I go to the ladies room 30 to 40 minutes after I get in bed then in 40 minutes to an hour I fall asleep.
In order to get a +7 I will have to stay up. Quite a few times my mother use to get warm wash rags to wipe my face in the mornings in order to wake me up for school once multiple verbal wake up calls didn't work. Now I know why, because on those days I probably was only getting 3 to 4 hours sleep.
By the way +7 isn't all night, lol. I bet I can catch a nap after Bear's shot and go see my mother a little later. No worries a little less sleep for Bear is fine.
Bear & Lora
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Ok so I take it you don't wake up to go to the ladies or such at night. That used to be my trick to get those odd hour tests in although I admit, I usually didn't get back to sleep afterward for quite awhile. I really didn't mean for you to stay up ALL NIGHT! and with everything else going on right now, I frankly wish I hadn't asked. You need to get some rest even if it isn't the best. I was really suggesting getting one test at different times over a few nights not even in succession necessarily. You need your rest so just do what you can without making yourself sick or so exhausted you can't function.
Bear is actually almost +5 because we are two hours later than you.
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Oh I thought Oklahoma would be central time...only one hour time difference from EST.??? Bear didn't go much lower last night. Interesting. Makes me feel more comfortable about upping his dose a bit.
+7 may not be all night but it's close enough. I feel for you as I know how sleep deprived I got when Menace was dropping down the dosing ladder and I tend to be a bit of a night owl anyway. There were days I had trouble remembering my own name! Eventually I adapted a bit better but I always felt a little muttled and for the first time in my life, started needing afternoon naps.
Have you ever tried valerian root and/or some "sleepy time" tea? Some people swear by them. Never tried them myself but they seemed to help my SIL sometimes and she has major sleep issues.
+7 may not be all night but it's close enough. I feel for you as I know how sleep deprived I got when Menace was dropping down the dosing ladder and I tend to be a bit of a night owl anyway. There were days I had trouble remembering my own name! Eventually I adapted a bit better but I always felt a little muttled and for the first time in my life, started needing afternoon naps.
Have you ever tried valerian root and/or some "sleepy time" tea? Some people swear by them. Never tried them myself but they seemed to help my SIL sometimes and she has major sleep issues.
Bear & Lora
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Oklahoma is Central Standard Time. I thought my son who lives in Seattle, Washington said Canada was the same time as Washington which is two hours earlier than Oklahoma. More than likely Canada has different time zones as America does. I haven't really researched Canada much. I once went across the Canadian Border for a short car ride from Michigan when I was a teen.
I haven't tried that root or tea and I do love to try things more natural/holistic.
Tonight we upped Bear's dosage to 2 Units and my husband said he will test Bear at +7. I will test him at +4 and +5.
It is now 11:20PM and I can wait till 1:20AM to go to bed.
What is your SIL?
Bear & Lora
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You are right, Eastern Standard Time is one hour later than Oklahoma.
MrWorfMen's Mom
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"SIL" is short for sister-in-law. Where your son is in Washington and in British Columbia, Canada directly north of him, there is a 2 hours difference between you and them. We have all the same time zones you do, plus an extra that is only a half hour difference for our friends in Newfoundland. Not sure who decided that one but then Newfoundland is a very unique and beautiful place!
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Liking those blues today! Nice colour for Bear! How are you doing Lora? How is your Mom?
Bear & Lora
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Liking those blues today! Nice colour for Bear! How are you doing Lora? How is your Mom?
Yes, I was relieved to see a few blues today.
I am doing okay.
Mom had an appointment at her Cardiologist at 6PM and he is going to do her procedure Friday, clearing some plaque/calcium in her left leg arteries, and probably adding a few more stints. Later he will work on her right leg again.
She will finish her IV Antibiotics Wednesday and she is definitely feeling much better.
Thank you for asking.
How are things going for you?
MrWorfMen's Mom
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Status quo here. Menace is holding her remission so I started breathing easier again after testing her earlier today! HAHAHA! Somehow testing her now evokes more trepidation than it did before. But all's good!
If you have any warmer weather to share we'd be delighted to take some. I hate fall and it hasn't been the colourful season it usually is here. But then I haven't yet had to clean up a pile of leaves either so I guess I should be grateful for that delay!
Best of luck for your Mom's procedure on Friday. Hope she continues to improve. Glad Bear is behaving well while you are occupied with your other charges. Please keep us posted.
P.S Met someone else from Oklahoma here today. She is around Norman. If you have a moment for some "me" time you can checkout this post from Laurabb. She and her kitty Nermal would love to meet you. Southern hospitality rocks!
If you have any warmer weather to share we'd be delighted to take some. I hate fall and it hasn't been the colourful season it usually is here. But then I haven't yet had to clean up a pile of leaves either so I guess I should be grateful for that delay!
Best of luck for your Mom's procedure on Friday. Hope she continues to improve. Glad Bear is behaving well while you are occupied with your other charges. Please keep us posted.
P.S Met someone else from Oklahoma here today. She is around Norman. If you have a moment for some "me" time you can checkout this post from Laurabb. She and her kitty Nermal would love to meet you. Southern hospitality rocks!