Prayers Pls - Saoirse Intraocular Bleed - SUNDAY UPDATE: Nausea Reduced, Eating Again, Eyelids Puffy

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That is wonderful news Mogs I am so very relived as I am sure you are. Now what you need to do is take care of yourself easier said than done trust me I know but please try???
 
Well done Mogs for staying calm and making sense of the results. Sounds reassuring. I hope you both have a restful evening and good night's sleep - you both need it.

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What a night and day you and Saoirse have had, Mogs! I'm SO glad to see that she's doing well enough to come home to you! Now you both need some rest to recuperate. I know, you will want to watch her like a hawk. But do get some rest, for her sake. Remember, you and Saoirse made it this far, you both will get through this together.
 
Very heartened by you summation of the visit to the vet!!! It all seems "handleable" if you know what I mean! I know you will still worry, as we all would, but Mogs, I also know you are exhausted and you're no good to Saoirse in that state. Please at least get a small nap in, if you can't manage a real sleep. It doesn't help either you or Saoise for you to continue on in exhaustion, and you know I'm right. Okay, now that I've gone all dutch uncle on you, I just want to say how relieved I am (!) and to let you know that I' still sending prayers and healing vines, along with a load of love and strength.

Please take care of yourself as well as you do Saoirse! :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
 
So glad your kitty is at home and is stable. I've been praying for you both since I saw the thread. I wanted to say a few years ago, I had a very large corneal ulcer with bleeding and iritis from contaminated contact solution. There is pretty significant discomfort with the ulcer, but the iritis and pressure makes you REALLY dizzy. I had nausea from dizziness alone, but the eyedrops to keep the iris dilated helped. The inflammation lasted about a week, and the cloudy vision about 3 weeks. You may want to call and ask if they can also give you some bupre. for pain for a few days if you don't have any available and an anti-nausea if she is still gagging.
 
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I had to be out and missed this afternoon--what a wonderful report Mogs!!
Please take care of yourself..... you need to get rest my friend. I know it is hard for many of us to think of ourselves before our babies but she needs you to be ok to care for her. As many hugs as you can handle from Chicago :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
I think it is possible and in fact likely that the nausea is as a result of the pain arising from the internal inflammation. The cilary muscles spasm causing the iris to constrict, this can result, in adhesions end result of which is eye pressure up, lots of pain, I have had human patients present with this puking uncontrollably in my consulting room. We would also treat in humans with the tropicamide, it resolves the cilary spasm and pain and goodbye nausea.

So it's all making sense and your vet sounds to be very much on the ball. It's great that he will do a home visit, so much better for her.


Have the Ulcers healed themselves? are they treating with anything? antivirals, antibiotics, steroids?

Poor little kitten, so glad she is feeling better.:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Oh, Mogs... I just found this thread and I apologize for not being more in touch. Please know that I'm there with you in spirit and that I've been sending tons of prayers upward, wishing it was possible to physically be there to help in some way. I'm so relieved to know that you've been to the vet and have returned home with your beautiful fur baby and some encouraging news. Keep those updates coming, please! Now I'm hoping and praying that you both will recover quickly from this exhausting and very frightening ordeal. I know that our loving God will be there watching over both of you, guiding you along, holding you up. Please take good care of yourself. Can't help but be very concerned about you. Hugs... and more hugs.
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My prayers are with you and your beautiful baby.
I no that love you share with your kitty. It's how I feel they are my babies I would do anything for them. I shall continue to prayer for you both. Hugs. Please take care of yourself.
 
Dear Mogs

It is good to hear that Saoirse is home and the test results are looking not too bad overall. Lots and lots of positive energy coming your way for a healthy healing for Saoirse and some peaceful rest for you. You were amazing in how well you handled this crisis....I would have fallen to pieces myself. :bighug: :bighug: :bighug:
 
Whew, what a relief! This sounds like this event was an unfortunate incident that diabetics need to come to expect. But that doesn't make it any easier. Mogs, as to the ulceration: Do you clip Saoirse's claws? Most folk, if they do trim, only trim the front, but I'm wondering if a back claw didn't catch her eye while she might have been scratching at herself. I know this worries me with Dottie, a LOT, especially now that she shows a tendency to scratch her ears because the edges of them itch a bit. She attacks her ears and I watch her hind foot flail at the 'itch'. It's a wonder all felines don't put their eyes out with those meathooks fixed at the end of their paws.

I did find out the length of time before krill oil takes effect..it's about 30 days, at least for humans... and I swear by the stuff. Keep giving her what you are giving her for inflammation until the KO would take effect. It's a food additive so it's not as risky as some man-made medications. Do start her on a regimen of krill oil. If you can get MEGA RED krill oil, it comes in extra strength. 2 drops from a standard Mega Red capsule added to a day's food..no more than that, should help her with any inflammation.

Also will she tolerate a DROP of bacon fat per day. Only a drop or so of that, too..it has valuable lineolic acid that can help Saoirse. It is especially good for eye problems.

Kitties are so tiny. Sometimes I think the amounts of anything recommended are too high for a compromised kitty. Our measurements of teaspoons or whole pill sizes are too great for them. You gotta start slow and work your way up.

By now I assume you are at the end of your day. I hope you both get an excellent night's sleep. :bighug::bighug::bighug: Sweet Dreams!
 
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Jeanne Skadowski said:
Whew, what a relief! This sounds like this event was an unfortunate incident that diabetics need to come to expect. But that doesn't make it any easier. Mogs, as to the ulceration: Do you clip Saoirse's claws? Most folk, if they do trim, only trim the front, but I'm wondering if a back claw didn't catch her eye while she might have been scratching at herself. I know this worries me with Dottie, a LOT, especially now that she shows a tendency to scratch her ears because the edges of them itch a bit. She attacks her ears and I watch her hind foot flail at the 'itch'. It's a wonder all felines don't put their eyes out with those meathooks fixed at the end of their paws.

I did find out the length of time before krill oil takes effect..it's about 30 days, at least for humans... and I swear by the stuff. Keep giving her what you are giving her for inflammation until the KO would take effect. It's a food additive so it's not as risky as some man-made medications. Do start her on a regimen of krill oil. If you can get MEGA RED krill oil, it comes in extra strength. One drop added to a day's food..no more than that, should help her with any inflammation.

Also will she tolerate a DROP of bacon fat per day. Only a drop or so of that, too..it has valuable lineolic acid that can help Saoirse. It is especially good for eye problems.

Kitties are so tiny. Sometimes I think the amounts of anything recommended are too high for a compromised kitty. Our measurements of teaspoons or whole pill sizes are too great for them. You gotta start slow and work your way up.

By now I assume you are at the end of your day. I hope you both get an excellent night's sleep. :bighug::bighug::bighug: Sweet Dreams!
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I am a fan of krill oil as well..we use Grizzly krill he loves it :)
 
Mogs. I'm so glad Saoirse is home and to read the news that she isn't in any immediate danger( anti-jinx.) You are amazing! You got through a very scary night You did it! I new you could. You need to get some rest, so you can be strong for your baby.
I thought about both of you all night wishing there was more I could do to help.
Sending a ton of hugs and healing prayers from California.:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Oh Mogs! I am so sorry I wasn't online last night to help you through that scary situation. Also elated to hear the vet says no immediate danger (Antijinx) and that Saoirse is home again in her loving Momma's tender care. You are the most devoted kitty Mom and Saoirse knows it. It's so hard to see our furkids unwell and terrifying when we don't know what is going on with them. Oh that they could tell us how they are feeling....it would be so much easier!
Hope you are finally able to get some rest!
Will be watching closely for updates! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug: and
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I was so pleased to read your update. I sure hope you are resting tonight so you can enjoy that fur baby Saturday. Sure sounds like your vet is taking good care of Saoirse.
 
YES!!!!! Great news she is home and the vet has some idea of what is going on. My civvie, Tobey, gets ulcers from feline herpes (rarely but it does happen when he's stressed) and we use a fantastic anti-viral drop called Idoxuridine. It gets it right under control. It's possible the drops your vet prescribed are ask liar anti-viral and that would be great.

Many hugs and caring thoughts still coming your and Saoirse's way.
 
Hi everyone,

Got all your messages and they mean the world to us. Thank you all for your support, prayers and healing thoughts; they are helping more than you will ever know. Also all the medical information; it helps so much to hear about human experiences of similar problems. You're helping Saoirse to speak to me to tell me what's wrong and maybe find a better way to help her and I'm beyond grateful for such precious insights.

Saoirse is more settled after Amodip but I think the dose is too high; went to check her and she was a bit floppy - put the heart completely crossways in me. I roused her and monitored her closely and she seems a bit sedated but OK now. (She did have a sedative earlier so maybe that hadn't quite cleared her system?) Will call the vets in the morning to discuss dosing, since Saoirse is notoriously med-sensitive. Checked her BG - 15.5 but skipped insulin tonight (not comfortable with this but my gut told me it was the safest thing to do under the circumstances - praying it's the right decision). Saoirse is more relaxed now. I was able to soothe and comfort her. Think it probably does more for her mammy than herself. She has eaten for me despite not having her anti-nausea med today (there will be residual benefit from earlier doses) but after the gagging and the severe nausea last night it's a relief .

Managed to get some sleep but still very cold and absolutely shattered.

Update tomorrow. I can't thank you all enough for helping us through this. Blessings to you, your fur babies, and all your loved ones.
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Larry and Kitties said:
Bloodwork results not bad which is good.
Can you check heart rate at home?
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I'd like to be able to monitor heart rate and BP at home - especially if Saoirse needs to stay on meds. I'm sure our vet would teach me how if I asked. Can you suggest any good equipment for doing so, Larry?

Thank you for the feedback on Saoirse's labs. :bighug:


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Wonderful to hear Saoirse is eating and accepting all the love and care you can shower on her. I'm sure she is enjoying it as much as you are! All this has been very stressful on both of you and maybe she is still recovering just as you are from the initial shock and scare. As good as these little critters can be at hiding when they don't feel well , I firmly believe that our furkids experience the "emotions" we do in situation like this....and it's going to take Saoirse some time to get her equilibrium back too! Cuddling will heal both of you! Sending healing vines and warm fuzzy thoughts to you both! :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
You can purchase a stethoscope at any pharmacy or big box store that has a pharmacy. You'll need quiet in order to hear Saoirse's heartbeat. Count the number of beats in 15 seconds and multiply by four to get the heart rate in beats per minute (bpm). A normal cat's heart rate is between 140 and 220 bpm, with a relaxed cat measuring on the low end.

Watch Saoirse's respiration rate, too. A cat that is struggling with pain, or dizziness will breathe much shallower and faster than a cat who is perking along nicely. Use a timer and count...20 to 30 breaths per minute is normal. Anything much faster, or slower, is a cue that something's not right. Also remember that if your kitty has sleep apnea, she'll hesitate in her breathing a LOT while she's asleep. But usually it's only in obese cats that you'll notice sleep apnea, and Saoirse's weight is on the lean side, yes?

As for a doppler blood pressure monitor, they are very expensive. I located one online from the Thames medical Company, and it's ...I don't know where to find the proper "pounds" symbol on my kb..almost #900? The device uses doppler technology to get kitties' bp.
 
Dear Mogs,

I just read about your terrifying ordeal with sweet Saoirse. I'm so relieved to hear that she is stable and back home with you. From this point forward, I want you to remember one thing...You will ALWAYS be strong enough to take on whatever comes your way with precious Saoirse...simply because of your intense love and devotion for that cat, which is so clearly evident. I will be keeping tabs on you both...looking forward to hearing how she's doing.

Take care of yourself Mogs...I know you got Saoirse covered....:cat::cat::cat::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Update: Worry over Amlodipine Dose and Breathing
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Another vigil tonight. Haven't been able to get sleep because of worry over Saoirse's reaction to the amlopidine. It has been 4.75 hours since dose administration. Her breathing was unusual - a bit shallow and somewhat more frequent than normal. After what could possibly be described as a kitty faint earlier, I've been monitoring her. She's a bit like I was on timed-release beta blockers; felt like my blood had turned to soup.

Between the fast last night and the restrictions on feeding after she was sedated for the eye exam she hadn't had much food in the last 29 hours. I just managed to get her to eat a bit more and I added extra water in the hope that better hydration would help. She did seem quite thirsty. She is responsive but somewhat sluggish.

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Just checked her breathing after getting the bit of food and fluids into her. She is breathing more normally now. @Jeanne Skadowski - thank you very, very much for the info on respiration rates. I've done several timings on her and she's taking 21-22 breaths per minute. It's a relief to know her respiration rate is within normal limits; it's certainly not as high as it was earlier. Saoirse seems more comfortable since the food and fluids. She seems to be resting comfortably now. I love her so.


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Not sure where your vet is measuring BP, but no, I don't think so....for lack of a better way to describe it, you're shooting for her "armpit"....where her front leg attaches to her body, near the chest.....I added a picture above too
 
Thank you. Can't find the pulse at the moment. Trying to balance care monitoring with the need to minimise stress.

Just made up some kitty soup for Saoirse and she took it for me. She is more alert now, thank goodness. I'm happier with her clinical signs.

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Yay! I think it's probably normal for her to experience a bit of light-headedness on her new meds. And let's face it, when we feel crummy, lightheadedness kind of goes paw in paw with feeling lousy. I see that Amodip can cause a fluctuation in serum potassium level. That might be the reason for the lethargy too. Here is a link to the drug information in case you haven't had time to look it up, yet.


And HEY! She's eating! Best news EVER! :bighug:

Don't forget to sleep tonight!
 
Really hope you managed to get some rest overnight despite what I know is your ongoing anxiety. You must be exhausted so please remember to take care of YOU as well, and tend to your emotional health as well as your physical health. I think we forget how easy it is to become run-down and that leads to an overall lowering in spirits.

I'm going through a rather a miserable time with dental issues and have felt wrung-out and down so I have to remind myself of what we say to FD newbies here - remember the importance of little treats! For us that might mean a new magazine, a relaxing bubble bath, some luxury chocolate, or just an hour watching our favourite tv show... these things look so trite in black and white and no, of course they're not going to change the situation, but they can offer that slight mind shift and give us a tad more energy to face another day...

Lecture over

Hope today sees you both more settled.

Diana
 
Addendum to the above: Another way to spot high blood pressure in cats is when they have headaches. People who have cats that develop headaches report that their animals press their heads against walls or cushions to stop the pain. I have seen a couple of my cats do this, on occasion...and funny thing, that is exactly what I thought at the time, "They have a headache!".... because when my head hurts I try to press my own face into a pillow, or press a damp washcloth tight against my eyes.
 
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