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  1. Critter Mom

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    Paola, after you post the next BG result and the time, please do the following:

    1. Print out the info at the following links IMMEDIATELY:

    How to Treat Hypos

    Hypo Toolkit

    Prioritise the first one.

    I'm asking you to do this purely as a precaution. The FDMB server has been glitching a bit today and I want to make sure that you have this information available at home just in case there might be a delay in replying to your messages should the server hiccup again.

    2. Food information we need:

    Please post the varieties (flavours) of the Blue Buffalo food you still have at home (both the wet and the dry versions) so that we can check their carb content.

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  2. Blaze and Paola

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    :eek: do you have insomnia?
     
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  3. Critter Mom

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    Yes (secondary to PTSD). :rolleyes:

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  4. Blaze and Paola

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    I had already printed the first on and it is on my fridge.
    I bought the item for the Hypo tool kit this morning. I have every single thing. I bought it when I got the meter.

    Food information:
    WET: They were eating the Blue Buffalo Tuna Meaty Morsels in Gravy, https://www.petsmart.ca/cat/food-an...-wet-cat-food---natural-grain-free-48991.html , BB Basics Fish and Potato entry, BB Basics Duck and Potato Entry

    DRY: https://www.petsmart.ca/featured-br...lt-cat-food---chicken-54090.html?cgid=5000028
     
  5. Blaze and Paola

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    I am sorry to hear :(
    I am ok with all of that, I understand. I will follow the notes from today. No questions (fingers crossed)
     
  6. Blaze and Paola

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    Actually I do have 1: Tomorrow morning the dosage would be still 0.5, right?
     
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    I think the BB dry is around 44% carbs but figuring that out is not my forte.
    Yes we will stick with .50 for a week unless he drops under 50 US.
     
  8. Critter Mom

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    Top banana! :cool:

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  9. tiffmaxee

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    I will be back when you post the next test unless the connection is bad.
     
  10. Critter Mom

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    Will try to work out the BB carbs in a mo. Back in a few ...


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  11. Critter Mom

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    Elise, before you go could you perhaps give Paola some criteria for the morning about whether to give the next dose or whether to skip?

    (Just in case there's an outage.)

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  12. Blaze and Paola

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    Thank you so much
     
  13. Blaze and Paola

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    A question...what if I need to give him food and he doesn't eat it?
     
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  14. tiffmaxee

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    If he’s getting low you can rub some honey or syrup on his gums. At that point give anything that he will eat. They usually get very hungry when getting near hypo territory. The gravy has all the carbs so give that. Doesn’t matter if they eat the actual food.
     
  15. Critter Mom

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    BB Denali Dinner Salmon: est. 8% kcals from carbs
    BB Indoor Cat Dry Food: est. 30% kcals from carbs
    Purina Party Mix: 44% kcals from carbs

    (Best I could do with the guaranteed analysis figures.)

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  16. Critter Mom

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    Evenin', Jayla! :)
     
  17. Blaze and Paola

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    it's at 5.3 now even after the food, I don't have the Gravy foods anymore here, what do I do? Honey? Syrup?
     
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  18. Blaze and Paola

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    Ok will rub Honey and give his treat maybe, the ones with 44% carbs? He loves those
     
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  19. tiffmaxee

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    Very helpful Mogs! I was looking up BB Basic fish and potato. That’s higher I think. It is Blue Buffalo?
     
  20. jayla-n-Drevon

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    what is wrong with these vets!!!
    WELCOME! I am so glad your here and getting good advice to keep you kitty safe:)

    If your kitty is a dry food addict there are a few with less carbs-Dr Elsey-Nulo-and young again
    were rooting for you:bighug:

     
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  21. tiffmaxee

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    Yes but only if under 50 or if he drops under 90 and has earned a reduction won’t eat. Reserve the 44% for when really low.
     
  22. jayla-n-Drevon

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    @Critter Mom Hi Mogs! So nice seeing you again and giving excellent advice as always:bighug:
    between you and @tiffmaxee Blaze (love the name and what is cuter than a grey cat:smuggrin:)
    Blaze is in good hands:bighug:
     
  23. Critter Mom

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    Yep. Wilderness range.

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  24. jayla-n-Drevon

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    Savory centers is HC -Dre doesn't like HC much but when running low I syringe 1cc at a time from the "savory center) where the carbs are and it brings him up nicely . Fancy Feast savory centers
     
  25. Critter Mom

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    Far be it from you to be biased, eh? :p

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  26. Blaze and Paola

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    I rubbed honey on his gums, I gave him some treat, I put a bowl of food with 1 tsp of food but he is not eating it
     
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  27. jayla-n-Drevon

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    if need be you can insert rectally
     
  28. jayla-n-Drevon

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    your in good hands now--vets ugh!
     
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  29. tiffmaxee

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    How long since he last ate?
     
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  30. tiffmaxee

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    Give him any food he will eat. It doesn’t need to be a lot.
     
  31. Blaze and Paola

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    Trying but he just does not want anything...even his treats
     
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  32. tiffmaxee

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    Has it been 30 minutes since last test? Test again please.
     
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    Do you have a syringe to syringe feed?
     
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  34. tiffmaxee

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    He’s not too low at this point so if he eats just a little it’s ok.
     
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  35. Blaze and Paola

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    "]Trying but he just does not want anything...even his treats[/QUOTE]

    Sorry it's taking me so long...I am trying to measure, but he is not cooperating :(
     
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  36. tiffmaxee

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    Take your time. Sing to him.
     
  37. Red & Rover (GA)

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    Sing. Pet him. Change the routine of the last 12 hours or so. He's picking up on that and he's a cat. He just wants a long nap, as do we all.
     
  38. Blaze and Paola

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    I can't do this right now, there's no blood coming out! He is getting tired of me poking...I am not this right, I don't know why I can't this time. I did it before...
     
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  39. tiffmaxee

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    1. Take a break. Does he like to be brushed? Play with a wand toy?
     
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  40. Blaze and Paola

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    He ate a few more treats...I brushed him, he let me try again, but I couldnt get any blood. I am the one failing here not, him, he actually tried to wait for me to be finished. But he did eat a few more treats at least. Now he was interested in following a little spider
     
  41. Chris & China (GA)

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    Relax for a little while. Are you warming his ear really well before poking? If you think it's warm enough, continue heating it for another 15-30 seconds.

    As you poke more and more, new capillaries will grow into the area to "heal the injury" and it'll get easier and easier. A little Neosporin with pain relief ointment (not cream) can help those little pokie holes heal faster too.

    See that pretty white cat over to the left? She was tested over 16,000 times and I'll bet you can't tell by looking at her ears!

    Tomorrow, you really need to start a new thread...this one's over 200 posts and getting a little too long for anybody to keep up with what's going on.
     
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  42. tiffmaxee

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    That’s good. One of mind loves to be brushed which is why I suggested that. I have a zoom groom. One of those rubber things with spikes. All I have to do us open the drawer and she comes running. Her sister just wants to bite it.
     
  43. Blaze and Paola

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    Yes I have that too and they absolutely love it, I am giving it a little break. I turned off the light so he can chill without me hovering over him
     
  44. tiffmaxee

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    Perfect.
     
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  45. Blaze and Paola

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    I was able to do it...reading now is 5.8 at +5.30
     
  46. tiffmaxee

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    That’s good. Relax. I’d see if he wants to eat in an hour.just a teaspoon or a few treats.
     
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  48. Blaze and Paola

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    Ok, gonna lay down on the couch and set an alarm for 1 hr
     
  49. jayla-n-Drevon

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    if you have any boy food gerbers 2 stage they usually like that...
     
  50. Blaze and Paola

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    :bighug:
     
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  51. Blaze and Paola

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    I don't have that in the house unfortunately...Gonna try with the pate again...
     
  52. jayla-n-Drevon

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    a adult beverage might be something to consider:rolleyes:
    (for you)
     
  53. Blaze and Paola

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    Or some cannabis lol (for me) haha
     
  54. jayla-n-Drevon

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    I was going to mention that too :smuggrin:
    whatever works...it will get easier :bighug:
     
  55. tiffmaxee

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    So that I don’t forget, let’s talk tomorrow morning. If he’s any lower than 150 at amps. stall, don’t feed and retest in 20 minutes. If still low post for advice. If the site is down like it was this morning and in doubt then skip. I think you said you have a vet appointment and work obligations tomorrow. You might even need to have a higher no shot number for tomorrow morning only. Remind us when you shoot and when you will be away.
     
  56. jayla-n-Drevon

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  57. Blaze and Paola

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    Yes that's correct, tomorrow is a busier day...
    Will be away from 9-11am (work)
    1:30-3 pm physio
    5:30-not sure...vet appointment for Ash, my other cat.
    I will pretest and see what I get, i will start a new thread in the morning
     
  58. Blaze and Paola

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    I will message when I exactely leave and i am back tomorrow
     
  59. tiffmaxee

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    What time do you shoot?
     
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  60. Blaze and Paola

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    Tomorrow morning I shoot at 7
     
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  61. Blaze and Paola

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    Today i noticed he didn't drink water at all
     
  62. tiffmaxee

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    He ate mostly canned food, right? It has a lot of water in it. If concerned add a little water to his food each time. I used to do that all the time. If he’s urinating less and since his bg is lower he won’t drink as much. Do you know hotvto test for hydration? Pull up fur and see if it goes right back down. Feel guns to see if moist and not tacky.
     
  63. Blaze and Paola

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    Great i will do that, thank you. Yes only canned food today.
     
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    One of mine never drinks water and the other a very small amount. They eat raw and I add water each meal as it comes right out of the fridge.
     
  65. Blaze and Paola

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    Its just odd for me not to see him go to the fountain. He was always there taking showers too, putting his head under the flowing water
     
  66. jayla-n-Drevon

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    sometimes you can find good stuff in the supply closet on the forum too :)
     
  67. Blaze and Paola

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    Supply closet?
     
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  68. jayla-n-Drevon

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    Paola , Im wondering if Blaze had been on prednisone before he was dx with FD?
    I dint see it in your first post Just want to be sure....
     
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  69. Blaze and Paola

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    No he has never been on any meds before, ever
     
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  72. jayla-n-Drevon

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    how long has it been?
     
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    that will be +6
    if he is chilled out it would give you more data to test
     
  76. Blaze and Paola

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    Gonna try and trst first
     
  77. jayla-n-Drevon

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    Many cats nadir at +6 (nadir is lowest point in cycle ) if he is a safe number you can rest easier-every cat is different and we don't have enough data to know his nadir just yet. But it is a good indicator .
    Putting a thin layer of Vaseline sometimes help with testing-it seems to make is easier to prick and the blood will be a little bubble
     
  78. Blaze and Paola

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    +6:45 he is at 7.5
     
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    Am I safe to go to bed? Feeding/shot is in 5 hours
     
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    Thanks Jayla. I just took a shower. I never changed from my walking clothes.
    He might just not feel great right now. That will change quickly.
    That’s a good bg. You can stop testing. I’ll check in with you at 7. Any questions?
    You are doing a fantastic job. I was determined not to test at first. My friend and my sister had diabetic cats. They would just shoot blindly and lucky nothing happened.
     
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    I would like to thank all of you form the bottom of my heart for helping me through this new reality. Thank you so much ❤
    I will start a new thread at 7
     
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    I just realized we are 3 hours apart. If nobody answers when you post I would not shoot anything if under 150. If between 150-200 I would shoot .25. If over 200 shoot .50. This is because you dint have enough data and will be gone a lot. It would be a one time thing and resume .50 for the night dose.
     
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    Aww bless! (((Blaze)))

    Good morning, all!

    Great job last night, Paola. That was a very long day for the pair of you. :bighug:

    Sorry for the abrupt departure last night: passed out. :oops: :rolleyes:

    I'll keep an eye out for this morning's new thread, Paola. Am I right that the next preshot test is due in just under an hour?


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