New Member- 8/7/26 Leo

VitaminZosyn

Member Since 2026
Hi everyone! I’m a Internal Medicine resident (humans) and am really grateful to have found this group and see all the excellent support and advocacy here!

Medical Background
Leo (9 almost 10 year old buff tabby) has chronic pancreatitis, intermittent liver enzyme elevations, and a history of nausea and appetite changes. He has lost about 2 lb over the past few months which we think was in the setting of a pancreatitis flare vs diabetes. In July, his glucose was around 400, and fructosamine testing confirmed diabetes. He has also been taking prednisolone 5 mg daily, which may have contributed. He maybe has been making bigger urine clumps and has some polydipsia but nothing to write home about. Polyphagia is something I wish he had in a way given his chronic inappetence and subsequent food aversions.

Current Diet
Leo eats mostly dry food (Purina EN now, its been a roller coaster to get him to eat and he just started eating this well) and is accustomed to grazing throughout the day given my schedule. I have tried to do wet food only diets (post dental, in the midst of a flare) but he usually only eats about 15–20 grams at a time and so short of q2h feeding there was no way to get him enough calories. I bought a ton of different wet foods with his inappetance- it's been hard finding something that will not irritate his pancreas more, address his inappetance, and have him eat more than his 15 calories. He does not predictably return to wet food. I initially thought this might be because he grazes, but he eats similarly small amounts of wet food even when he is hungry like after fasting for an ultrasound. He has a sister who shares the same diet with him, she has a remote hx of pancreatitis but no chronic issues at this time and is happy to try all the new foods to make sure they're safe lol.

Medications
His main relevant medication is prednisolone 5 mg daily which we are discussing weaning (last time he flared despite a slow taper though the timeline of taper <-> flare isn't the cleanest). He also receives medications for nausea or appetite support as needed (cerenia, mirataz, zofran). It's always hard to tell what works and what doesn't, and I hesitate to do elimination tests of these medicines given the guy struggles to get his calorie amounts as is.

Insulin & Monitoring
Leo is currently prescribed 1u Lantus BID. His FreeStyle Libre 2 Plus worked for only about an hour before falling off. His readings were around 390–400. Based on those readings, my vet advised me to give his first 1-unit dose. That was 7 PM and I don't feel comfortable giving subsequent doses without being able to check his glucose. I had hoped to use a CGM for glucose trends and remote monitoring, but did order a POC tester and will set up the FDMB spreadsheet.

My residency schedule is one of my biggest concerns. Some days I leave around 6 a.m. and don't come home until 9 p.m. During other weeks, I work only night shifts from 7p-8a; or 8p-10a. My wife can help with some feedings, but insulin administration and glucose testing will primarily be my responsibility as he's too big for her and she's currently far along a pregnancy.

My biggest questions are:
  • How should I handle Lantus when Leo eats only 15–20 grams of wet food at a time? What is the minimum food he needs to eat to get the shot?
  • Does his dry-food grazing need to change immediately, or should we transition gradually while monitoring him? I read in the FAQs (and agree) that we shouldn't rock the boat, I think part of me is delusionally wanting to get him into remission asap
  • What should I use as my “do not shoot” number while I am new and still collecting data?
  • Is it reasonable to hold his next dose if I cannot check his glucose?
  • How can I dose and monitor safely around 6 a.m.–9 p.m. workdays and weeks of night shifts? I have considered hiring a vet tech/sitter but the costs will add up; I'm willing to do it if needed.
Managing diabetes in my own cat feels completely different and honestly overwhelming. Leo means the world to me, and I want to manage this safely while giving him the best chance of feeling better and possibly reaching remission.

Thanks in advance to everyone!
 
Hi welcome! I don’t have answers to any of this stuff but I wanted to say hello and bump your post so that a more experienced member could help answer your questions! I’ll keep an eye on the thread and bump periodically as needed.

The only thing I can offer is - have you tried nutritionally complete freeze dried food? Stella and Chewy makes one as does Feline Natural. It’s all protein so it gets rid of the carb problem but offers a kibble like crunch. It’s obviously less good than wet food in terms of offering hydration but sometimes we can only do as much as our kitty overlords allow us.

The other thing I’ll note is that you shouldn’t change Leo’s diet until you’re able to test regularly. When I got Moonie, she was on a diet of Meow Mix and FF grilled in gravy - and her insulin needs definitely changed as we transitioned her fully to a LC wet diet.

I can tell Leo is in great hands with you and you’ve definitely come to the right place for support and advice. My cat Moonie never saw a blood glucose number below 300 before we came to FDMB, and now she’s pretty well regulated and doing so much better, thanks to the advice we’ve gotten here :)
 
Hey! Human Cardiac technician here , so I hear ya on the stupid work schedule.
You do the best you can and just accept that sometimes that's all you can do. I eventually had to change my schedule to just overnights since it was easier to hire sitters for day/ evening help. Giving insulin an hour late now and then is ok, you just don't want to give early doses So, when you are late you have to push back that next dose a bit too. Hopefully, once you guys get in a rhythm, your wife would eventually be able to give him an insulin shot and distract him with dinner * fingers crossed* Meowtel is a good site for finding cat based sitter services and folks who can give insulin/ have experience with diabetic cats.
You are correct- never give insulin without testing ( unless there's a medical emergency like DKA but that's not the norm). Also, pred will artificially inflate those blood sugars so that will affect dosing- as does the dry food. Cats are obligate carnivores so eating grains, corn gluten and fillers is never " best practices ", but you seem to have other issues regarding food, so I get it. I have to say, an unregulated diabetic kitty who is on prednisone and doesn't have much of an appetite gives me the sads and is a bit confusing. Have you done any xrays or an ultrasound to rule out other issues like IBD, reflux or more GI issues? Recent labs just show elevated lipase enzymes and pancreatitis ...nothing renal? CBC typically within normal limits?...Just thinking out loud - not implying these things " should " have been done. My cat had idiopathic ALT elevation and hypercalcemia....cats are odd.
My cat grazed when he was first diagnosed, but I did taper that back to offering meals at specific times during his insulin cycle ( 2 hours after, 4 hours and 6.5 hours after) . Using an automatic feeder can often help out a lot , especially with the evening meals since many cats have drops in BGs overnight.
Take some time and read through the " sticky" notes for the Lantus/ Levemir insulin support group , it explains insulin dosing, tips and tricks , the Start lo/ go slow dosing method , when to shoot or skip etc.
I'm sure someone will check in with you regarding dosing, the spreadsheet and other tips to get you started.
Lantus / Levemir / Biosimilars
Give yourself some grace- you'll get frustrated and have to do some trial and error, but you are in the right place and asking all the right questions 😉
 
How should I handle Lantus when Leo eats only 15–20 grams of wet food at a time? What is the minimum food he needs to eat to get the shot?
Lantus is great for cats who eat many small meals a day or graze. There were many times Kobe hadn't eaten a full "meal" before I had to leave for work. If I knew he was eating and saw him eat 10 to 15 % of his daily caloric intake, I gave his shot. Hopefully, you get a couple more responses. Many on the forum use timed feeders or put frozen food out to thaw during the day. Small meals throughout the day is a very useful tool for getting a nice flat curve.
Does his dry-food grazing need to change immediately, or should we transition gradually while monitoring him? I read in the FAQs (and agree) that we shouldn't rock the boat, I think part of me is delusionally wanting to get him into remission asap
Grazing is not a problem. Diet changes should be done gradually while moitorinig to prevent GI troubles and sharp BG drops. This forum does a really good job of informing everyone that the water content in food is important for feline health. They will also tell you that eating less than ideal food is better than not eating ideal food. Here is the link to Dr. Lisa's Food Chart. It has lots of great low carb wet food options. Look for % of calories from Carbs under 10%. The low carb dry options are Young Again and Dr. Elsey's. My cats liked both. If you pick the dry, please still see how much wet food you can get on board. It's better for urinary tract health.
What should I use as my “do not shoot” number while I am new and still collecting data?
Here is the Sticky that explains our dosing protocols TR and SLGS. The nuanced answer for your "do no shoot number" is in the sticky. While you are new, the number is 200. Scroll down to the Start Low Go Slow section to find the options for stalling, skipping, or giving a reduced dose if you get 200 or a number that is just significantly lower than normal. TR is not recommended for cats eating kibble, so SLGS is where you want to look. Let us know if you can't find it or have questions about it.
Is it reasonable to hold his next dose if I cannot check his glucose?
I know that some people have had pet sitters who can shoot but can't check BG. I remember seeing that a reduced dose was given. An experienced member who can offer dosing advice can help you pick a safe dose for your cat if BG can't be checked.
 
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