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He hates the freeze dried stuff. I bought him a bag or two and he looks at me like I’m the worst mom ever when I try to give them to him haha

I’m going to go pick him up some treats now.
 
Now his blood is 10.8. So happy it came down and isn’t going to be high all day :) Giving him a pure snack treat now cause he’s starving and wrote it in the notes at +6
 
Nicole & Diesel said:
Now his blood is 10.8. So happy it came down and isn’t going to be high all day :) Giving him a pure snack treat now cause he’s starving and wrote it in the notes at +6
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2 pm this afternoon my cat will be giving me the "I'm starving routine" too. Like clockwork. I can tell roughly what time it is in the PM by when she starts to bug me to get her evening meal.

You probably know better than a lot of us on here how 'yucky' you feel when your BG's are high. Diesel probably just goes and takes another nap, nap number 43 for the day.

Have you ever had neuropathy issues or known another person who did? Lots of cats here do, and I keep telling other members to ask their vet about gabapentin (neurontin) which can be used for neuropathy pain. My MIL used that, because the nerve pain could be unrelenting.

Shingles are also very painful and I've had friends use the gabapentin for nerve pain from that.
 
Deb & Wink said:
2 pm this afternoon my cat will be giving me the "I'm starving routine" too. Like clockwork. I can tell roughly what time it is in the PM by when she starts to bug me to get her evening meal.

You probably know better than a lot of us on here how 'yucky' you feel when your BG's are high. Diesel probably just goes and takes another nap, nap number 43 for the day.

Have you ever had neuropathy issues or known another person who did? Lots of cats here do, and I keep telling other members to ask their vet about gabapentin (neurontin) which can be used for neuropathy pain. My MIL used that, because the nerve pain could be unrelenting.

Shingles are also very painful and I've had friends use the gabapentin for nerve pain from that.
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Yes and it scares me cause his favourite spot to nap is under our bed where I can’t reach him. He knows how to not be bothered haha

I have never had it and not sure anyone who has. What are the signs/symptoms in cats?
 
Diabetic neuropathy

The most common complication in cats that are chronically hyperglycemic is diabetic neuropathy—about 10 percent of cats are affected. The progression to this condition may take several months, and, if properly treated, it can resolve within six to 12 months. The femoral nerve is most commonly affected.

An affected femoral nerve can lead to a plantigrade gait, which is walking on the whole sole of the foot (e.g., like rabbits, bears, and people). In cats, this gait takes the shape of walking on hocks (heels), and the tarsal joints and nerves of the hind legs are progressively damaged, leading to pain, numbness, and weakness or paralysis. The first sign of neuropathy in cats is often weak hind legs. As the condition progresses, the cat won't be able to stand on its toes. Jumping will become increasingly difficult until it's impossible. Eventually, the cat's legs will seem to slip out from under it, and the cat will be unable to walk. These are signs of motor and sensory nerve damage.

Fortunately, in the early stages, this damage is reversible by regulating blood glucose concentrations. Regulation alone is the treatment of choice to reverse neuropathy in cats. However, some anecdotal evidence suggests that a specific form of vitamin B12, methylcobalamin, may help these patients recover more quickly. Methylcobalamin is thought to promote nerve regrowth and can be absorbed in the spinal fluid. It is not the same as the injectable B12 given to cats that have a true deficiency due to gastrointestinal disease, and it is typically referred to as methyl-B12. A veterinarian should be consulted before using this product.

Again, the primary treatment is regulating blood glucose concentrations. There is no research to support the use of methylcobalamin for treating peripheral neuritis in cats, but it may result in faster resolution and is relatively safe to use. The neuropathy generally resolves once good glycemic control is achieved.

Copied from Wisconsin vet school article. https://www.dvm360.com/view/managing-complications-diabetic-cats
 
I have been trying to search but to no avail with a regular answer that isn’t someone’s story about their cat.

He does not have them but what do you do when you see traces of ketones?
 
Trace of ketones, then monitor with keto stix if you have them. Anything more than a trace, emergency visit to a vet.

Right at the very top of the link below, it talks about the signs to watch for with ketones.

Try this link to learn more. Ketones, Diabetic Ketoacidosis (DKA), and Blood Ketone Meters. It's from over in the Health Links/FAQ's forum. Look under the INDEX: Health Links/FAQs sticky at the top of the post to find links to many articles put together by other members. Some of the links don't work. Some are of stories about someones cat and what they did.

If you see a link that isn't working, go to the Suggestions, Tech Support & Testing Area forum and start a new thread to alert someone there is an issue. It could take awhile to get someone to look into the reason and get a fix in place. There just aren't enough volunteers here to keep everything on here working.

Diesel needs a 'man cave' to keep away from your active toddler at times. Under the bed is it for him.
 
Hi,

Diesels blood is so high :/ 21.9. Do I still only give him 0.25? Worried that that won’t take it down enough and he’ll just be high all day :(
 
Nicole & Diesel said:
Hi,
Diesels blood is so high :/ 21.9. Do I still only give him 0.25? Worried that that won’t take it down enough and he’ll just be high all day :(
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Sorry for the late reply, but yes, I'd only do the 0.25 U and I see you did that. Diesel is a bouncy, bouncy boy. Basically, his body is not used to those highs and lows. So his blood glucose is like a roller coaster right now.

This mornings dose was cycle number 6 on Lantus for Diesel, so the 'Depot' should be filled. Let see how he does today.

"Bouncing - Bouncing is simply a natural reaction to what the cat's system perceives as a BG value that is "too low". "Too low" is relative. If a cat is used to BGs in the 200's, 300's, or higher for a long time, then even a BG that drops to 150 can trigger a "bounce". Bouncing can also be triggered if the blood glucose drops too low and/or too fast.The pancreas, then the liver, release glucogon, glycogen and counter-regulatory hormones. The end result is a dumping of "sugar" into the bloodstream to save the cat from going hypoglycemic from a perceived low. The action is often referred to as "liver panic" or "panicky liver". *Usually*, a bounce will clear kitty's system within 3 days (6 cycles)."

Have you read the Sticky over in the Lantus forum on how lantus works in cats? Especially about the 'Depot storage area? I put a link for that document below.

What is the Insulin Depot?
 
Hi, I’m going to read it now. I just took his blood and it’s 9.9

He now hates taking his blood and it makes it so hard :( I feel so sad for him.
 
Also it talks on there about NPH. That’s what I was using before I was pregnant and I get the whole peak they talk about.

I read this when I first joined and didn’t really get it. Thanks for sharing the link so I could read it again. Now I get the depot haha

when should I do the curve? I am not looking forward to that. It’s testing every 2-3 hours?
 
Nicole & Diesel said:
Hi, I’m going to read it now. I just took his blood and it’s 9.9
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That number is fine, 178 = 9.9

He now hates taking his blood and it makes it so hard :( I feel so sad for him.
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He doesn't understand that you are trying to help him. Give Diesel a a chin scritch from me.

What part is he hating? Maybe we can help you with ideas for making it better.

1. Have you tried bribes during ear testing? If Diesel is food driven, Diesel may come to associate the treats with the testing process and be more cooperative. Bribes can be brushing, play time (before or after), talking to him, some pats and chin scritches, telling him "what a good boy you are Diesel".
2. Have one spot for testing and say "Diesel, test time and then you will get your treat." Maybe a bit of something like triple antibiotic with pain relief to take the sting out before you test. Not too much, the tiniest bit to numb the ear. Can help to see the blood drop on kitties with black ears and ear edges. Wipe off any excess.
3. Are you aiming for the 'sweet spot' and not the vein?
4. I always thought this ear testing psychology document was a good explanation of the 'zen' way of testing, a calmer way of approaching the process.
5. Have you tried singing to him or some nonsense talk, say anything, like you would to a baby, doesn't matter what you say. Tell him about your day, but with a smile in your voice. Cats pick up on our stress and that can make it harder.

Some cats are ok with ear testing. It's tough in the beginning to get your cat used to this 'new thing, what the heck are you trying to do to me mom'' Some people use the paws, but the paw pads toughen up and can be harder to get blood from weeks or months down the line. Pros and cons to doing it both ways, paw pads or ears.
 
Nicole & Diesel said:
Also it talks on there about NPH. That’s what I was using before I was pregnant and I get the whole peak they talk about.

I read this when I first joined and didn’t really get it. Thanks for sharing the link so I could read it again. Now I get the depot haha
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when should I do the curve? I am not looking forward to that. It’s testing every 2-3 hours?
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When do you have the opportunity with your schedule, between life and work, active toddler and everything else? When do you think you can test every 2 hours for a 12 hour stretch? Thinking you won't have time for a curve until next weekend, but you need to tell me what is possible for you to accomplish.

Two methods of trying to regulate a cat on lantus insulin. TR (tight regulation) and SLGS (Start Low, Go Slow). Since Diesel dropped so low on his very first tiny 0.5 unit dose of lantus, and we suggested you drop the dose from 0.5U to 0.25 U, I've been guiding you more along the lines of the SLGS. Plus the food change for Diesel, you learning how to test is a lot to change at one time.

You can read about TR vs SLGS here. Dosing Methods: Start Low, Go Slow (SLGS) & Tight Regulation (TR)

Read through that and let me know what you think.

p.s. This is only for dosing if you are using lantus or levimir. DO NOT use for Prozinc, Vetsulin/Caninsulin or any of the NPH insulins. Put that warning there for other people that might be reading your posts and think they can use this dosing for their cat on a different insulin.
 
Deb & Wink said:
When do you have the opportunity with your schedule, between life and work, active toddler and everything else? When do you think you can test every 2 hours for a 12 hour stretch? Thinking you won't have time for a curve until next weekend, but you need to tell me what is possible for you to accomplish.

Two methods of trying to regulate a cat on lantus insulin. TR (tight regulation) and SLGS (Start Low, Go Slow). Since Diesel dropped so low on his very first tiny 0.5 unit dose of lantus, and we suggested you drop the dose from 0.5U to 0.25 U, I've been guiding you more along the lines of the SLGS. Plus the food change for Diesel, you learning how to test is a lot to change at one time.

You can read about TR vs SLGS here. Dosing Methods: Start Low, Go Slow (SLGS) & Tight Regulation (TR)

Read through that and let me know what you think.

p.s. This is only for dosing if you are using lantus or levimir. DO NOT use for Prozinc, Vetsulin/Caninsulin or any of the NPH insulins. Put that warning there for other people that might be reading your posts and think they can use this dosing for their cat on a different insulin.
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Every 2 hours stresses me out hahaha He’s definitely going to hate me but I guess love me in the long run. I might see what I can swing this week. I don’t really want to wait till the weekend as that’s too far away. Maybe Wednesday but I’ll definitely let you know.

I don’t know much about either so basically whatever one you suggest is the one I’m going to follow. I trust you guys more than my vet lol That 1 unit she suggested probably wouldn’t have been too fun!! If he’s been following towards the SLGS then I’m good with that if that’s what you think would be best.
 
Deb & Wink said:
That number is fine, 178 = 9.9


He doesn't understand that you are trying to help him. Give Diesel a a chin scritch from me.

What part is he hating? Maybe we can help you with ideas for making it better.

1. Have you tried bribes during ear testing? If Diesel is food driven, Diesel may come to associate the treats with the testing process and be more cooperative. Bribes can be brushing, play time (before or after), talking to him, some pats and chin scritches, telling him "what a good boy you are Diesel".
2. Have one spot for testing and say "Diesel, test time and then you will get your treat." Maybe a bit of something like triple antibiotic with pain relief to take the sting out before you test. Not too much, the tiniest bit to numb the ear. Can help to see the blood drop on kitties with black ears and ear edges. Wipe off any excess.
3. Are you aiming for the 'sweet spot' and not the vein?
4. I always thought this ear testing psychology document was a good explanation of the 'zen' way of testing, a calmer way of approaching the process.
5. Have you tried singing to him or some nonsense talk, say anything, like you would to a baby, doesn't matter what you say. Tell him about your day, but with a smile in your voice. Cats pick up on our stress and that can make it harder.

Some cats are ok with ear testing. It's tough in the beginning to get your cat used to this 'new thing, what the heck are you trying to do to me mom'' Some people use the paws, but the paw pads toughen up and can be harder to get blood from weeks or months down the line. Pros and cons to doing it both ways, paw pads or ears.
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He hates the poke part and then he’s ok for a second and then starts to get aggravated while I’m trying to make the blood come out more. I try to be as gentle as possible.

I do talk to him and give him treats. If I poke and he jolts and I don’t get the blood or it’s not enough, I give him a treat before I try again. Would you recommend trying again right away or giving it a little bit?

I really try to hit the right spot. I can tell I didn’t once or twice. Can I go all the way around the ear? Vaseline was working for a bit but then I stopped cause I ruined 2 strips getting Vaseline on it and I’m assuming that’s why they wouldn’t suck up blood. Does doing it on the paw pads bother them more? I wonder if I could just do it here and there sometimes to give his ears a break.
 
1. Poking attempts, 3 strikes and you are out. Give Diesel a break.
2. Some people get the blood on their fingernail and test the blood from there. Personally, with all the gardening I do, I keep my nails pretty short. Works for some folks.
3. Paw pads vs ears is an individual cat thing. I've had cats that HATE having their ears touched, others that were a real effort to trim there nails. Go ahead and try paw pads sometimes with Diesel because you never know. Some folks have outdoor or indoor/outdoor cats and they tend to have tougher paws.
4. Maybe some neosporin with pain relief AFTER?

5. Sweet spot diagram for you https://www.flickr.com/photos/28246908@N06/8773952641/
 
Time to try increasing the dose back to the 0.5U of lantus. PM cycle, since it looks like you already gave the AM shot per your SS.

Depot has filled with 8 cycles (usually only takes 6 cycles) and his BG readings are saying he needs more.

Has Diesel finished the meds for the UTI yet? If so, could you note that on the SS in the remarks. I mean, put a note in for each day that he gets the meds, and when you expect to finish.

We had you drop the dose initially because you were just starting to home test AND you were switching to low carb food. Since that food transition is complete, it's time to try a tiny bit more insulin.
 
Do you want me to give 0.5 for pm and am now(except for this am)?

Yes Diesel has finished his meds for the UTI Thursday morning I believe it was.
 
Yes, this 0.5U dose will be the same dose AM and PM for Diesel for now. It may take up to 6 cycles to see the full effects of this new dose. Think of it as steering a huge cruise ship which reacts slowly versus a high powered speedboat which can turn so much faster.

Do you know about stalling if the BG is under 200?
 
Yes I know kinda. I would have to stall if I did till lunch time whenever I’d have to do it so +5.

Do I still do the curve soon or do I wait till he’s on 0.5 for a few days?
 
Nicole & Diesel said:
Yes I know kinda. I would have to stall if I did till lunch time whenever I’d have to do it so +5.

Do I still do the curve soon or do I wait till he’s on 0.5 for a few days?
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Up to you. Thursday AM cycle would be 6 cycles at the new higher dose. Doing a curve even during a dose change can still yield useful information. Diesel still has elevated preshot BG's, so I'm leaning towards a curve, because I'm thinking he's bouncing at night.

Dosing Methods: Start Low, Go Slow (SLGS) & Tight Regulation (TR) These 2 dosing methods are only used for Lantus. Stalling can be used for any insulin.

Copied this from over in the lantus forum, directly from that "Sticky" I pointed you to.

"With experience, you may find that lowering these thresholds may work well for your cat. When you have reached that stage, the following guidelines are suggested for Lantus, Basaglar, and Levemir users following the Start Low Go Slow approach:

If the preshot number is far below usual preshot numbers:
  • Do you need to stay on schedule? Then skip the shot.
  • Do you have some flexibility with your schedule? Then stalling to wait for the number to rise might be a good option. Don't feed, retest after 30-60 minutes, and decide if the number is shootable.
  • Repeat until the cat either reaches a number at which you are comfortable shooting, or enough time has passed that skipping the shot is necessary.
If the preshot number is near kitty's usual preshot numbers:

Look at your data to see what numbers you have shot in the past and decide what would be a safe, shootable number for your cat. Don't feed. Stall until kitty reaches the preshot number you've decided on and then shoot.
We usually don't suggest or recommend shooting a preshot number less than 90 mg/dL when following the SLGS Method. Remember that with SLGS, generally speaking, your goal is to achieve flat numbers that are greater than 90 mg/dL. However, let experience, data collected, knowledge of your cat, and availability to monitor help in making the best decisions for your cat."

You don't have much data yet, Diesel dropped fast on his very first shot, you are new at all this so I think a good "Shoot/no shoot number" for Diesel should be 200 (11.1). For now. That can be decreased in the future.
 
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I can do the curve it’s just hard with my schedule but I was thinking of trying tomorrow if you think it would be a good time and that way I can be around to also monitor him with the 0.5 dose.
 
Ok, I forgot you were doing SLGS dosing. Let's wait on that dose increase if you can do the curve tomorrow. I thought you had said Wed or Thurs for a curve.

Would you put the SLGS on your signature please?
 
I did say that but I’m gonna try to do it tomorrow as it’s probably easier with my schedule. Not sure if I’ll be able to stay home the next day to watch him at a 0.5 dose but I’m gonna try and I can always go home at +5 for lunch
 
Nicole & Diesel said:
I did say that but I’m gonna try to do it tomorrow as it’s probably easier with my schedule. Not sure if I’ll be able to stay home the next day to watch him at a 0.5 dose but I’m gonna try and I can always go home at +5 for lunch
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Whatever works better for you Nichole. You know how busy your life is better than we do.

What do you do for work? Sounds like whatever it is, you are close enough to come home at lunchtime.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Whatever works better for you Nichole. You know how busy your life is better than we do.

What do you do for work? Sounds like whatever it is, you are close enough to come home at lunchtime.
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I’m a teacher. I do get sick days so that’s a plus.

my little guy isn’t feeling well and he’s home with his dad today so I will probably be home with him tomorrow. That’s why I thought it would be the perfect time to do the curve. I’m about 15 minutes away from work if there is no traffic. I get an hour for lunch so as long as I am able to leave exactly at the bell I can usually make it home and back. Last time I went I made it back with 2 minutes left hahaha
 
Deb & Wink said:
Increasing the dose is what I would do for my cat.

You'll be home tomorrow taking care of your sick son. Hope he is feeling better soon.
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Okay. But doing this should I still do the curve tomorrow Because I could wait till saturday. And I wanna do it when it’s going to be most useful so that I don’t have to put him through it twice :/
 
The curve would be more useful on Saturday.

Monitor as usual for tomorrow when you increase. AM and PM pre-shot tests, and then at +3 if you can to see how low he goes. Don't forget those PM before bed tests, to see if he drops much lower at night. If you are still up around the +5 time, would be a good time to test. If you are sleeping, then you are sleeping.
 
Deb & Wink said:
The curve would be more useful on Saturday.

Monitor as usual for tomorrow when you increase. AM and PM pre-shot tests, and then at +3 if you can to see how low he goes. Don't forget those PM before bed tests, to see if he drops much lower at night. If you are still up around the +5 time, would be a good time to test. If you are sleeping, then you are sleeping.
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Thank you so much! I think with the increase awake or not I am going to set an alarm because I know what going low is like and it ain’t fun!
 
Remember those days when you were pregnant with your son and had to get up in the middle of the night to go pee?

Does this remind you of that time?

You've only been here for a week. Probably seems like much, much longer with all you have learned.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Remember those days when you were pregnant with your son and had to get up in the middle of the night to go pee?

Does this remind you of that time?

You've only been here for a week. Probably seems like much, much longer with all you have learned.
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Oh yes! It definitely does. And I also get up to eat sometimes when my body wakes me up cause my sugar is low haha

It does feel like I’ve been here a lot longer than a week!
 
Hi,

I was going through other posts and read different things about food. Wondering when I should be giving Diesel food.

so when I wake up in the morning I usually test his sugars. Should I be giving food any amount of time before he gets his shot or is right after okay with Lantus?
 
With Lantus insulin, the order is test, feed, shoot. No waiting to feed required as with some of the short acting insulins (e.g. NPH or vetsulin).

Some people give the shot while their cat has their head in the food bowl. I always thought it was better that they did not associate the insulin shot with feeding, as it might scare them away from eating. So I did shot then feed. (I cat sit for a fractious cat and the only way for me to get that cat insulin is to use the 'head down in the food bowl' technique.

You can feed right after the shot. If you think Diesel may not be hungry or his appetite is off, please test first to get that non-food influenced AMPS/ PMPS test.

Good for you for reading other posts and trying to learn more! I don't know where you find the time, with your job and your little one to care for.

In general, with most all insulins, feeding after the middle of the cycle can cause the BG's to go up. That is because there will be less insulin as the food is digested and the insulin is starting to 'wear off'. Not as much insulin around in the cat's body to balance the glucose that gets into the bloodstream.

p.s. I had someone test their own BG the other day, to make sure the meter and test strips were good. Person had just eaten. It was in the 130's. Which is good for a non-diabetic human after just eating.
 
Deb & Wink said:
With Lantus insulin, the order is test, feed, shoot. No waiting to feed required as with some of the short acting insulins (e.g. NPH or vetsulin).

Some people give the shot while their cat has their head in the food bowl. I always thought it was better that they did not associate the insulin shot with feeding, as it might scare them away from eating. So I did shot then feed. (I cat sit for a fractious cat and the only way for me to get that cat insulin is to use the 'head down in the food bowl' technique.

You can feed right after the shot. If you think Diesel may not be hungry or his appetite is off, please test first to get that non-food influenced AMPS/ PMPS test.

Good for you for reading other posts and trying to learn more! I don't know where you find the time, with your job and your little one to care for.

In general, with most all insulins, feeding after the middle of the cycle can cause the BG's to go up. That is because there will be less insulin as the food is digested and the insulin is starting to 'wear off'. Not as much insulin around in the cat's body to balance the glucose that gets into the bloodstream.

p.s. I had someone test their own BG the other day, to make sure the meter and test strips were good. Person had just eaten. It was in the 130's. Which is good for a non-diabetic human after just eating.
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Ok. That’s what I have been doing. Test, feed and shot.

I’ve tried the head down while eating and he doesn’t like that position for his shot. He was better today for his shots/blood test than yesterday. No fighting me! Haha

I try to do my research on my breaks, when my little one is napping (he naps usually 2-3 hours) and then when he goes to bed. Basically I put a movie on with every intention of watching it but just end up going through posts on here. Lol

Diesel is starving by mid afternoon usually because he was used to just eating whenever he wanted to. I try to give him just a little snack. I found a fancy feast that says less than 1g of carbs so I tend to give him that. I’m going to go buy some chicken and cook and freeze some.

Also I don’t think I mentioned this before and I remember someone asking and I didn’t know. I weighed myself Sunday the 12th and then weighed myself with Diesel and it was a difference of 9.4 lbs
 
Hello Nicole:)
I remember when I was young with a baby, haha! Whoa, you are doing great! I feel being a diabetic for so many years (T1 40 yrs) helped me with Tina. I had a big sense of urgency to get her out of the high numbers, and a big respect for those nasty low numbers, and avoiding them. I worried a lot more about Tina than for myself, since she couldn't say, "I need food NOW"!
Feline diabetes is different, but similarities cannot be denied.

At some point, you might like to come over to the Lantus forum and post a daily "condo" for Diesel. Deb has been amazingly helpful; I'm just now getting to know her by her helpfulness . . . I was off in the Lantus forum and rarely looked anywhere else!

Weighing Diesel on a regular basis is great idea. Have a great day!
 
Thanks Jan! Can you believe that Nicole and her kitty Diesel have only been here for a week!

Trying to help Nicole learn the basics, so she can 'graduate' over to the ISG group for lantus when she is ready. She hasn't run her first curve yet though. I was kind of waiting for that. Signature, SS setup, home testing, low carb food are all good.

Nicole, when you get a chance, take a look over in the lantus forum. Read the 'stickies' at the top for how they do things over there. It's a bit different than here. Lots of nice folks there, like Jan and her kitty Tina Marie. Fast pace over there. But more people to look out for you. It's up to you as to when you think you are ready. You can always post in Main Health too.

p.s. I've been away from the board for a while, my heart just wasn't in it anymore after I lost my sugardude Wink. Holiday PSA got me back to Feline Health, trying to get new members started in this journey with their newly diagnosed diabetic cat.
 
Deb & Wink said:
p.s. I've been away from the board for a while, my heart just wasn't in it anymore after I lost my sugardude Wink. Holiday PSA got me back to Feline Health, trying to get new members started in this journey with their newly diagnosed diabetic cat.
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Wink was such a beauty Deb - I can completely understand your need to back off for a while.
Diesel is a beauty too, and he would thank Wink for teaching his mom Deb so much. Sharing the love and your knowledge is a beautiful way to keep Wink nearby . . . always:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:

Nicole - don't hesitate to reach out, anytime.
 
Tina Marie and Jan said:
Hello Nicole:)
I remember when I was young with a baby, haha! Whoa, you are doing great! I feel being a diabetic for so many years (T1 40 yrs) helped me with Tina. I had a big sense of urgency to get her out of the high numbers, and a big respect for those nasty low numbers, and avoiding them. I worried a lot more about Tina than for myself, since she couldn't say, "I need food NOW"!
Feline diabetes is different, but similarities cannot be denied.

At some point, you might like to come over to the Lantus forum and post a daily "condo" for Diesel. Deb has been amazingly helpful; I'm just now getting to know her by her helpfulness . . . I was off in the Lantus forum and rarely looked anywhere else!

Weighing Diesel on a regular basis is great idea. Have a great day!
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Hi, I feel like it’s scarier but better knowing so much about It. I know how yucky I feel when I am high and how dangerous it is to be low. I’m glad that I understand the urgency of low numbers and know how important it is to raise them, especially Like you said where they can’t say feed me now!
I definitely will make my way over at some point. Right now I’m in the information overload stage and once I get a better grip on things I will come on over :)
 
Deb & Wink said:
Thanks Jan! Can you believe that Nicole and her kitty Diesel have only been here for a week!

Trying to help Nicole learn the basics, so she can 'graduate' over to the ISG group for lantus when she is ready. She hasn't run her first curve yet though. I was kind of waiting for that. Signature, SS setup, home testing, low carb food are all good.

Nicole, when you get a chance, take a look over in the lantus forum. Read the 'stickies' at the top for how they do things over there. It's a bit different than here. Lots of nice folks there, like Jan and her kitty Tina Marie. Fast pace over there. But more people to look out for you. It's up to you as to when you think you are ready. You can always post in Main Health too.

p.s. I've been away from the board for a while, my heart just wasn't in it anymore after I lost my sugardude Wink. Holiday PSA got me back to Feline Health, trying to get new members started in this journey with their newly diagnosed diabetic cat.
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Thanks for all your help. There is no way I could have done any of this without you guys!

I always get lucky and find amazing groups. I found a mom group while I was pregnant. Y’all are the absolute best!!!

And Diesel’s numbers at +5 are 8.3.
 
Diesel looking good at +5 with that 149 on the dose increase. (Hey what is this? What is he? Chopped liver? Link in case you are too young to understand the reference.)

One week is a very short time to be here. No hurry to move over to the lantus forum. I hadn't even talked about that possibility yet with Nicole. Get settled in more. Wrap your head around all this new information. Go back and reread from the beginning of your post.

You came to us a week ago, big snowstorm where you were, vet was closed, vet wanted you to start with 1U lantus, you had started the food change to lower carb already, busy at home life, day off from work because of the storm. So many things going on in your life. Very first dose of insulin ever for Diesel, half of what your vet wanted you to give and Diesel was low early in the cycle at +3 and you were having trouble getting BG tests. Talk about trial by fire!

You've learned about skipping the shot, about stalling, about how to post for help, about reducing the dose, about 'eyeballing' tiny doses with the 1/2 unit markings on the syringe. So many other things I can't even remember.

You've come a long way Nicole. We are very proud of you. (Corny but true.)
 
Ok.. I’ve got a no shoot BG of 7.1 (123) Do I stall? And if so for how long? Thought I knew what to do but now that it’s here I’m like what the..... I went back and read comments and see what it says about the stall. To wait to give food but he’s starving! :(
 
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