Loki- Newly diagnosed- Really struggling with home testing.

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GraceCyrus

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Hi all, first of all thank you so much for the help so far.

I'm severely struggling with getting his blood AMPS , I've been doing the warm compress and trying to milk the ear but I'm failing every time. My poor baby was pricked so much this morning I tried at least 8 times I'm at the point of crying because I can't get this down.

He has been eating more since yesterday which was good as he wasn't eating much and he was drinking more. More the reason I really wanted to nail this AMPS I'm so mad at myself for not being able to get his blood.

He has now had his insulin because I fear his BG was high due to him eating and drinking more.

Is there anything I can buy to put on his ears to promote healing and just to sooth them as he was poked a lot and I just feel so incredibly aweful.
 
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The lancet which is in the lancet device can be taken out to use on its own..some people like to do it that way. Are you changing the lancet every time you test? If not you risk infection and a blunt lancet.
Also I would not use a pin or a needle.
The Lancet is a cartridge, you can't see the needles, There's six needles in the Lancet cartridge which automatically switches when one gets used.
 

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In the beginning I tried the device and for me that was a total fail. I quickly switched to just using the Lancet. In the beginning I was really bad at it and felt guilty about hurting him but regardless of how it went he always got a treat. Once I even ripped the edge of his ear when he moved his head as I was poking, but with in a couple weeks we figured it out.

Last night 15 mins before +2 he was in the kitchen on the floor at his testing chair meowing. I picked him up and placed him on his chair. I walked away. He continued to meow. He wanted to be tested. He wanted his treat.

It does get easier over time, just remember to stay calm and even if you are unsuccessful to still give a treat. Soon your kitty may also ask to be tested.
 
Ooooh boy do I remember those days! We were given that, "device" and after 5 failed attempts I threw the damn thing AWAY. Got the lancets and NEVER LOOKED BACK. You will see exactly what we mean, when you try this on your own.

Now I cant say it changed Troubles disposition with testing. (He absolutely fought us every step of the way) BUT "The WAY" became shorter and shorter. TREATS are the key. ;)

You can do this! :bighug:
jeanne
 
I did so much better with out the tool. Be sure you have the larger size lancet to begin. A little neosporin on the ear before poking will cause the drop of blood to sit still. Not too much or it will not allow the ear to bleed. Loki will feel your uneasiness so try to relax by just singing or humming. You will get it soon, takes a few times & you’ll be able to do it w/o a thought. You’re doing a great job!
 
Thank you all so much, I've gone out and bought some completely separate Lancet needles . I tried to get the ones which are just a needle that doesn't need clicking but they would only give me these safety lancets which is really quite frustrating . I really hope they're better
 

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Thank you all so much, I've gone out and bought some completely separate Lancet needles . I tried to get the ones which are just a needle that doesn't need clicking but they would only give me these safety lancets . I really hope they're better
Gotta say ANYTHING is better than that stupid device clicker thingy. I'm SURE they work well for hoomans but cats? Not so much!:p
 
Thank you all so much, I've gone out and bought some completely separate Lancet needles . I tried to get the ones which are just a needle that doesn't need clicking but they would only give me these safety lancets which is really quite frustrating . I really hope they're better
I don't think these will work from what I googled about them they go into a lancing device



These are what you want any brand will do

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by Gentle Draw
Trueplus Sterile Lancets, 28 Gauge, 100 Each
 
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We all know the basics:
  • Warm the ear with a rice sock or a warm washcloth wrapped in a plastic bag.
  • Either freehand or use a lancing device; new members usually start with a larger gauge lancet such as 28g or 29g until the ear learns to bleed; then progress to a 31g or 33g which are finer.
  • Be sure to poke in the "sweet spot" and not the major vein that runs along the length of the ear. Poking the vein will not only hurt, but will result in a lot of blood. The sweet spot is on the edge of the ear.
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But did you also know there is a particular way for the lancet to be used? It has one side that is beveled so the sharpest part goes in first, if used correctly
 
I don't think these will work from what I googled about them they go into a lancing device



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by Gentle Draw
Trueplus Sterile Lancets, 28 Gauge, 100 Each
Those ones are the ones I asked for but she insisted I have these safety lancets. So annoyed. The ones she gave me don't actually need a device but they're still not just a straight needle.
 

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Those ones are the ones I asked for but she insisted I have these safety lancets. So annoyed. The ones she gave me don't actually need a device but they're still not just a straight needle.
OK I see what you mean by the screenshot , I really don't think they will work , can you go back to another store they are usually on the shelves , I don't know what store you have in England
 
Thank you all so much, I've gone out and bought some completely separate Lancet needles . I tried to get the ones which are just a needle that doesn't need clicking but they would only give me these safety lancets which is really quite frustrating . I really hope they're better
Do you have a Walmart near you? They’ll have the lancets you need.
It does get easier. The Neosporin works great. Make sure you have good light when you start using the lancet. Some people here have a lamp they can aim at the kitty. I personally hold a pocket flashlight in my mouth so I can aim at the ear.

also, I think I remember someone here advising to try 3 times then take a few minutes break and try again. 8 times in a row is probably really hard on you and him and I think at that point you’re just psyching yourself out.

it will get better you’ll see! :bighug:

PS - love the name! Someone is an Avengers or at least Thor’s fan :)
 
I'm severely struggling with getting his blood AMPS , I've been doing the warm compress and trying to milk the ear but I'm failing every time. My poor baby was pricked so much this morning I tried at least 8 times I'm at the point of crying because I can't get this down.
Hi, please don't be hard on yourself. This stuff can take a wee while to learn, for both human and kitty. And I do totally and absolutely promise you that it 'does' get easier...

I'm now on my second diabetic kitty, and both kitties have provided their own individual challenges. But in both cases it was a matter of finding out what worked for that individual cat.
What follows is some miscellaneous ramblings based on the previous comments in the thread and my own experience with my kitties... Take whatever is useful, ignore the rest... :rolleyes:

Regarding whether to use the lancing device ('clicky thing') or to use a lancet freehand, this is entirely a matter of what you find easiest to do.
I tried both methods and came to absolutely love my lancing devices (I know that many others have an entirely opposite experience). My close vision isn't great, so the fact that I could just 'press and click' a device against the edge of my kitties' ears has been brilliant for me. I'm not even able to aim particularly well for much of the time. I just aim in the general direction of where I 'think' is the best spot; then press and click and hope for the best. This rather haphazard sounding technique has served me extremely well for just over 13 years now.

I got my cats used to the sound of the lancing device by using it rather like a 'training clicker'. At times when I wasn't testing I'd click the lancing device a couple of times and then give the kitty a treat. The sound of the lancing device soon came to be like the sound of a tin opener...

It is well worth trying different spots up and down the edge of the ear to see what works best. It's also common that one ear bleeds more easily than the other. My first diabetic, Bertie, tended to bleed best about half way down the outer edge of his right ear. My current girl tends to bleed best close to the tip of her right ear, on either side.

A mistake I made early on was not to put pressure on the underside of the ear (opposite to where I was pricking). This meant that I sometimes pushed the edge of the ear away rather than pricking it. The lancet needs something to 'resist'.

Both my diabetics have/had really dark ears. Bertie was black, and Bonbon is a dark tortie. In the early weeks of testing a super thin smear of Vaseline on the outer edge of their ears helped the blood to 'bead up' and stopped it disappearing into the fur. This also 'seemed' to help with healing. In both cases, the ears seemed to get a bit pink in the first few weeks, but then that stopped. It is as if the ears toughen up a bit somehow. In spite of that the ears do also start to bleed more easily. This is apparently because the ears produce more blood vessels in response to those tiny weeny pin prick 'injuries' (the growing of new blood vessels is called 'angiogenesis').

Here are some testing tips that I wrote out for someone else a while back and occasionally re-post just in case there is anything that might help. Sorry for posting this somewhat impersonal info. And please do shout out if you need clarification or further help.

Eliz
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HOMETESTING TIPS & TRICKS

1. WARM EARS. Probably THE most important thing. Warm ears bleed very much more easily than cold ones. You can warm an ear by massaging it, or by holding something warm against it; ie a pill bottle filled with warm water, or a ‘rice sock’ briefly warmed in the microwave.

2. MASSAGING immediately below the ear prick, with finger and thumb, can ‘milk’ more blood out. I almost always do this, if only for a second or two.

3. VASELINE. A teensy weensy smear of Vaseline on the outer edge of the ear will enable the blood to ‘bead up’ and stops it disappearing into the fur. This also makes it easier to see the blood droplet if the kitty has dark ears.

4. RESISTANCE. The lancet needs something to ‘resist’ otherwise it can push the ear away rather than pricking it effectively. Some folks use a piece of cotton wool or folded tissue. I use one of my fingers, but sometimes do accidentally take a blood sample from myself that way.

5. TWO EAR PRICKS close together can often produce enough blood for a test when one ear prick might not.

6. SCOOPING THE BLOOD DROP ONTO YOUR FINGERNAIL. Doing this is a game-changer for some people. If you can get that drop of blood on your finger or thumb nail you can then let the kitty go and finish the test without her/him.

7. TREATS. It is important to reward the kitty for each attempted test, whether the test was ‘successful’ or not. Cats very soon learn to associate tests with treats. And some will soon come running for their tests. A ‘treat’ is usually a food reward of some kind, but some folks reward their kitties with a cuddle or a grooming session. I actually crumble a few treats for my cat and test him while he’s hoovering up the crumbs.
Remember to reward yourself too. Chocolate is good…

8. GET COMFORTABLE. If you are physically comfortable you’ll be more relaxed, and also less likely to try to rush the process. Some people like to test their cats on a counter top or a desk, maybe next to a desk lamp. Some people prefer to hold their cats on their laps when they test. Some folks incorporate testing into a grooming session. You’ll find what works best for you. And once you get used to home testing you’ll quite possibly be able to do it anywhere, and maybe even while the kitty is asleep.

9. RELAX. Cats pick up on our moods. The more relaxed and ‘matter of fact’ we are, the more relaxed and confident the kitty is likely to be. Some people chat or sing to their cats while they test him. Try it. It might help you too.

10. PATIENCE. Be kind to yourself. You’re learning something new. (And you’re learning something wonderful!) :bighug:
 
lancets https://www.walmart.com/ip/FreeStyle-Lancets-28G-100-Ct/11047131 or Amazon https://www.walmart.com/ip/FreeStyle-Lancets-28G-100-Ct/11047131
cotton pads https://www.walmart.com/ip/Equate-Beauty-Premium-Cotton-Rounds-100-Ct/719949798 or Dollar store :)
ointment https://www.polysporin.ca/products/complete-antibiotic-ointment

Edit: filling a sock with rice ( microwave 25 sec) really helped me. test it on your wrist first to make sure its not too hot. Its like making a mini Magic Bag but small enough to fit his ear
 
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Uhhh Polysporin contains lidocaine, I dont think thats good for cats. Neosporin is what you should use.
If I'm wrong I'm sure to be corrected.:blackeye:

Not sure, but never seen Neosporin in Quebec. This is what i've found
Neosporin contains neomycin which is not present in polysporin.
Polysporin is the brand name for a product containing bacitracin zinc and polymyxin B sulfate.
Neosporin is the brand name for a product containing bacitracin zinc, polymyxin B sulfate and neomycin sulfate.

Edited my post: Some Poly can contain it, how bad is it for cats? someone on this forum did recommend the Antibiotic one

Edit: only Polysporin Complete Antibiotic Ointment, Kids Cream, Plus Pain Relief Cream and Plus Pain Relief Ear Drops contain lidocaine.
 
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I think it depends on the variety of polysporin, doesn't it? It's what I always used on Amber and myself (because I seem to react to neomycin), I just looked at the tubes I have on hand and none of them have lidocaine. That's a pain relief ingredient, isn't it?

I was just going by the link posted above, that list the ingredients:
  • Our most advanced antibiotic ointment
  • HEAL-FAST® Formula provides infection protection to speed healing
  • Contains lidocaine hydrochloride for fast-acting pain relief
  • Best suited for minor cuts, scrapes and burns
  • Soothing antibiotic ointment forms a protective coating
  • #1 Doctor and Pharmacist Recommended anti-infective brand†
  • Non-staining & odourless
  • 3 antibiotics plus lidocaine hydrochloride
  • Available in 15 g and 30 g tubes
I dont know if lidocaine is harmful to cats. I just remember everyone saying it has to be neosporin ointment. I personally USE lidocaine patches and they are pretty strong. This is why I told the OP to wait and see what others say. I appreciate your input Nan. I certainly am NO expert.
jeanne
 
Am I crazy, but do I recall folks also use Vaseline as an alternative...?
Yay I was just about to post the thread where @Judy and Freckles posted about using Vaseline but no need then, thanks!

I also found this from @Wendy&Neko on a thread to you @Lalkabee

“We don’t have Neosporin in Canada, but you can get Polysporin with pain relief, it's the black and yellow box.”

Is this the one you have?
 
Some kitties are allergic to neomycin, which is in Neosporin, but not in Polysporin. I used the Polysporin Complete on Neko for 5 years, and still use it myself. I even sent it to someone with a kitty in the US who was allergic to neomycin. Equally, some cats are allergic to lidocaine, and you don't want to get it in the cat. As long as your cat doesn't have a furry friend who likes to lick ears, you should be OK. And keep the oinment container hidden away.
 
Some kitties are allergic to neomycin, which is in Neosporin, but not in Polysporin. I used the Polysporin Complete on Neko for 5 years, and still use it myself. I even sent it to someone with a kitty in the US who was allergic to neomycin. Equally, some cats are allergic to lidocaine, and you don't want to get it in the cat. As long as your cat doesn't have a furry friend who likes to lick ears, you should be OK. And keep the oinment container hidden away.
Thanks everyone see Grace I always think its a good idea to ask. ;):)
 
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