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Ok so we just moved to a new house seemed ok yesterday now she wont eat,missed one shot. new house blues? she ate fine yesterday,now she wont even eat a treat and missed another shot now
 
Could be pancreatitis, could be a lot of things. It's a big problem to not be eating for any length of time, especially for a diabetic cat. The best thing would be to take her to an ER vet if there is one near you, failing that use whatever tricks you can think of to entice her to eat. Try adding something extra-yummy to the food-- tuna juice, a sprinkle of parmesan cheese. If she seems nauseated (trying to eat, then turning away), try elevating the food and water bowls a few inches.

Are you home-testing? What insulin are you using? Skipping shots in a cat that isn't eating can lead to the development of ketones, which can develop into DKA, a life-threatening condition.

At the very least, if you are not already, you must test for ketones-- you can pick up the urine test strips at any pharmacy with other diabetic supplies. To catch a bit of urine for the test (you only need a couple drops), some people are able to use a long-handled large spoon, others have had good luck with putting a bit of crumpled plastic wrap in the box where the cat usually pees.
 
Ive only skipped one shot and it wasnt last night,i woke up to her being like this. so i doubt its ketones. do i need a presciption and how much does a kit usually cost? i skipped this am shot. i went and bought some hard food to try later for feeding time to try and see if she eats. vet isnt to close and im in kinda of a money pinch. she uses lantus
 
Last time we moved she threw up alot too. was very out of it but didnt have diabetes then. im hoping its all move relaated and she comes around
 
No prescription, I think around $10 or thereabouts?

It very well could be stress from the move that has her feeling "off", it's very disorienting for a cat to move house. Hope that's all it is and she settles in soon.
 
She seemd fine last night when we came to new place,but maybe she didnt realize what was going on. I remember taking her to the vet last time when we moved and they said it was stress. also what my mom says,she is super sensitive. if she isnt bettet in am ill go get strips tomorrow. then vet monday. right now she is at water bowl hanging out like she is almost sleeping
 
Can you set up a little corner of familiar things with familiar smells, somewhere out of the way of all the noise and hubbub of unpacking?
 
Ive got all her toys out,i just got her favorite bag out and she is sitting on it now. we are done unpacking so all is quiet here
 
If she doesnt eat tnight can i give her just a small amount of insulin. I give her 2 units per shot,what if i gave her .5 would that be effective without getting her numbers to low
 
Im not home testing,not for years. vet always said i wouldnt have to,i took her in several times to get tested
 
Seems like every Vet says that :banghead:. The issue with taking her in is she will probably show stress inflated numbers. All of us who home test do not regret doing so and it has saved many kitties lives. We wouldn't administer insulin blindly to a human baby or infant without testing, so we treat our fur babies the same way. Just something to think about. I'm not trying to be mean :bighug:
 
I tried the pricking the ear deal and couldnt do it with out poking her to much,im not good with needles,only way i can give her a shot in the fur is bc i dont see it going in the skin. i took her in and the numbers were good,a tad high but that was accounted for,for being excited. so far so good in all the years. can i give her a small amount of insulin tnight like .5 even if she doesnt eat?
 
I'm sorry, I don't know much about Lantus. I honestly don't know if the Lantus members will give dosing advice without any data. What do you think @Nan & Amber
Apologies for tagging you so much recently, Nan :oops:
 
I don't think anyone would be comfortable giving dosing advice without any data-- I know I wouldn't.

Let's hope she just starts eating soon once she gets a little more settled in.
 
What kind of data you looking for. its lantus, 2 units every shot,no history of ketones at all,been tested regularly to get the unit numbers right.
 
We would want to know what her blood glucose readings have been like on the regular dose, and where they are now, in order to have some way to predict how she'd respond to a new dose under these conditions.

I'm sorry I can't give you a better answer than that.
 
To explain further: you know your cat really well and have been living with her diabetes for a while now, which may help you make the decision on whether/what to shoot. We have to go on a much more limited set of information, and we have to be conservative with our recommendations-- we always worry about safety, and in this case we just don't know enough to make a safe recommendation.
 
I understand,i went to some pharmacys to get test strips,all closed here. will do that tomorrow i guess. i do see some of her third eyelid. i wonder if something is up with her mouth,she tried toneat hard food but seemed like she couldnt chew. maybe that is why she is holding part of her mouth in the water at times?
 
That is very interesting-- I'm going to place a bet on dental issues, sounds like she is having some pain/discomfort.

Maybe try some wet food mixed with enough water that it can be lapped up? I'm worried about her going too long without food. Why do these things always surface on weekends????
 
Yea figures,bad timing. i opened her mouth some,couldnt keep it open long tho,just a sec or two,didnt see anything but i didnt have long tho. any ideas on keeping mouth open constantly
 
She has dka,glad i took her,might not have made it to monday. gonna cost $ hoping to bring her home monday but they said i might need to drop her off at home vet for a day or two,i sure hope not. she is getting treatment now. i miss her so much already
 
racn1320 said:
When she gets back how often should i test her ear? once daily,weekly?
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Most of us test at least 4 times a day.....always before the shot to make sure they're high enough for insulin at all, and at least 1 test somewhere mid-cycle on the AM cycle (5-7 hours after the shot) and a "before bed" test on the PM cycle to make sure they're safe overnight.

The problem with not testing is that lantus dosing is based on how LOW it takes them....without testing enough, there's no way to know how she's really doing. Too much insulin can look like too little. Without testing, there's no way to know for sure.

Sure hope she comes home soon...DKA is very serious. Sending prayers for your sweet kitty
 
How does that work if you work ten hr days and arent here to do so. thank you for the prayers,prob wont sleep tnight. miss my baby
 
There's some good idea in this "Is Tight Regulation possible with a full time job" thread

If you can't figure out a way, then it's even more important to get tests when you can....Like on the PM cycle and then on your days off, you can run a curve (testing every 2 hours for 12 hours or every 3 hours for 18)

I'm sure you do miss her.....our sugarcats are a part of our family....and usually a lot easier to get along with!
 
So glad you went to the vet. DKA is really rough on them, but if they get fluids and food and insulin in time, they can recover completely.

Hoping for a speedy recovery. :bighug::bighug:
 
They said i can pick her up tomorrow but said ill prob have to take her to my vet for a couple days,any chance she can recover and i Can bring her home tomorrow,with any of your expierences?
 
It really depends on how she's doing, and on how severe the DKA was. Did they give you any information about that? Also, there's a difference between just having ketones present and a full DKA. If it's just high ketones, and they were able to get things under control with fluids, insulin, and food, she might be stable enough to leave the ER under the supervision of your regular vet, but it's really very situation dependent, and no matter what you need to be in very close contact with veterinary professionals throughout, as things can deteriorate quickly while they are still in a delicate state.

I know that several members here have had cats with DKA that recovered completely, but they are very sick cats until they do. I'll tag several folks with experience now to see if they can offer more specific advice/opinions.

@Kris & Teasel
@Ozzy Pawzbourne
@Meya14
@Chris & China
@Bobbie And Bubba
 
Hey there and so very sorry to hear about your baby and I am soooooo glad that you took her in as she might now have made it till Monday.

Actually, I do not have experience with DKA, only high ketones. I know that $$ is tight with a new house and all but I wouldn't bring her home until your regular vet says it's okay to. While she is there they can give her the necessary treatment to get her through the DKA episode and address any infection that could have caused the episode to occur.

Sending lots of healing vines to your baby.
 
They did say she had alot of ketones. possible dka signs. im going to call later to see if i can visit her. i came home last nite and saw all her toys and just lost it.god i miss her and want her back here so bad
 
I'm so sorry. :bighug::bighug::bighug:

As of yesterday, she was still at least a little interested in food, and that is a good sign. Visit and/or talk to the vets, see how she has progressed today. She's in the right place for her right now, good vet care is critical at this point.
 
Usually, when the cat is able to eat on their own is when it's the right time to start home treatment. Unfortunately, lots of vets will send home cats before they are eating right due to costs and other reasons. DKA is difficult to treat when not eating and requires about a week of round-the-clock home nursing-type care. Hope your kitty bounces back quickly.

When she does get home, consider blood sugar (ear) testing as much as is possible for you. Some testing is better than none at all, so don't let a strict work schedule deter you. Also urine ketone testing regularly at first, and then with any signs of illness/stress/diet changes can help catch ketones very early, and prevent costly vet bills, as well as keep your cat healthy.
 
It was nice going to see her today,poor little baby. she was purring the whole time. im going to take some time off when she comes home. what meter should i get and where should i buy? want to get a good one but dont wanna spend to much.
 
A lot of us use a human meter from Walmart, ReliOn Confirm or Micro (Only difference is meter size).
1. Meter ($15)
2. Test strips ($35.88 / 100)
3. 26 or 28 gauge lancets ($4)
4. Neosporin or triple antibiotic ointment ($3)
5. A treat for yourself :cat:

Here is the Spreadsheet link again, all you need is a Google account: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/fdmb-spreadsheet-instructions.130337/
Signature instructions, make sure to also add her DKA date: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/editing-your-signature-profile-and-preferences.130340/
 
Are the test strips for ketones/urine and lancets are for blood right? sorry new to home testing and wanna get this right.
 
Ive searched around ,can anyone provide a link on all what they use please. greatly appreciated
 
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