Bouncing numbers kinda worried

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SS updated and he's at 317. Administered 0.25 ( read up on measurements at work! ) and now to wait and test after one hour at 12:30! ( thank god working st night makes me mostly nocturnal.)
 
trapnurse said:
I'll need to learn these numbers better then. I operated thinking it went in 100s I'm sorry is I sound really ill equipped intelligence wise math was never easy for me. I thought 0.25 would be like one quarter of a whole shot. Like 1/4 is just one price of a whole 4 cups if that makes sense. I'm going to go research this better now while I have down time.
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Yes.... .25 is a quarter of a unit. 0.5 is half of a unit. I suggested if it is 200-270 give a quarter of a unit, and if it is more than 270 to give half of a unit.
 
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Yes.... .25 is a quarter of a unit. 0.5 is half of a unit. I suggested if it is 200-270 give a quarter of a unit, and if it is more than 270 to give half of a unit.
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reason for .25 is because he seems like he's not that hungry right now and has not really been munching too hard on his food. but im checking him hourly till I sleep to see how this goes. But it seems he might actually be good tonight. the syringe I use doesnt ahve markings for the .25 or 0.5 either so I had to kinda get as close as I could but i think I ended up Possibly giving him a tad more then 0.25. I got home tongith at 11 and no pharmacy is open im hoping tomorow to buy him syringes that will allow me to measure this more accuratly so I can better follow your guy's advice!
 
trapnurse said:
reason for .25 is because he seems like he's not that hungry right now and has not really been munching too hard on his food. but im checking him hourly till I sleep to see how this goes. But it seems he might actually be good tonight. the syringe I use doesnt ahve markings for the .25 or 0.5 either so I had to kinda get as close as I could but i think I ended up Possibly giving him a tad more then 0.25. I got home tongith at 11 and no pharmacy is open im hoping tomorow to buy him syringes that will allow me to measure this more accuratly so I can better follow your guy's advice!
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Unfortunately there aren't syringes with quarter markings.... There are ones with half markings though, and that may help you with dosing these fractional units. :)
 
I just tested his BG sndit went down on its own? From last night. To a fairly nice number.... I don't know if or how much insulin to give him... I wanna say 0.25 but I wanna hear an opinion first just to be sure this has never happened before , his BG going down with out insulin that is.
 
I'd give him a 0.25u dose. Janet suggested 0.5u with that pre-shot and that might be ok but his pre-shot being down makes me think it's safer to stick to the smaller dose today. The fact that his pre-shot is down suggests he is coming out of his bounce from those lows the other night.
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
I'd give him a 0.25u dose. Janet suggested 0.5u with that pre-shot and that might be ok but his pre-shot being down makes me think it's safer to stick to the smaller dose today. The fact that his pre-shot is down suggests he is coming out of his bounce from those lows the other night.
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0.25 it is. He's finally steadying out from his bounce yay! Also his spirited seems to have come back. The power went out while I was at work so the non hunger might have been from heat its normally 81 with out ac when it's 100 + out side. Thanks summer...
 
I've noticed that lately with my furkids too. They all seem to be eating a bit less the last week of so when it's been somewhat steamy here for us. I don't like it cold and hate AC so I set my thermostat to around 75 to 77 so it can get a tad warm upstairs despite the AC working.:smuggrin:
 
So far into monitoring his shift to 0.25 he's at 103. I'm hoping he won't go too much lower because I need to grocery shop soon but I want to keep him safe. But the 0.25 seems to be working wonderfully for him!
 
103 is a BEEAAUUTIFUL number! :joyful: Now the trick is to get him to surf in that range for awhile. Has he eaten again since shot time? Give him a snack of low carb food and retest in about 30 minutes. That should being him up a bit so you can go shop. Ya gotta go get the tuna for the furry guy!!!:woot: While you are out shopping it would be a good idea to buy a few cans of FF Gravy Lovers or something else with gravy so that you have some high carb food in the house in case he decides to throw another PJ party. Hopefully he won't but better to be prepared. ;)
 
trapnurse said:
So far into monitoring his shift to 0.25 he's at 103. I'm hoping he won't go too much lower because I need to grocery shop soon but I want to keep him safe. But the 0.25 seems to be working wonderfully for him!
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Perfect number!!
 
trapnurse said:
0.25 it is. He's finally steadying out from his bounce yay! Also his spirited seems to have come back. The power went out while I was at work so the non hunger might have been from heat its normally 81 with out ac when it's 100 + out side. Thanks summer...
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I'm glad you went lower since it was pretty boarderline and his eating is less. Looking great today!
 
I wouldn't worry about that pink pre-shot last night. Cloud dropped down to a "normal" number and is bouncing a bit as a result. This too shall pass and his pre-shot will come back down. Cloud is doing very well! :)
 
He's been getting some great numbers and each one can set off another little bounce so I'd hold the course for now. His pre-shot might have been up a bit last last night but this morning's wasn't bad at all. He may be going to decent lower numbers at night so I'd stick with this dose for a few more cycles to get a good picture of what this dose is doing for Cloud.
 
I'm proud to say cloud has become exceptionally stable thanks to all your guys help. My only new question is if I should move him to 0.5 to get those pretty blue blues showing up?
Also I'd like to know how I could help others with my limited knowledge, I want to give back as much as I've been helped.
 
trapnurse said:
I'm proud to say cloud has become exceptionally stable thanks to all your guys help. My only new question is if I should move him to 0.5 to get those pretty blue blues showing up?
Also I'd like to know how I could help others with my limited knowledge, I want to give back as much as I've been helped.
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I would. :)
 
Allie, I agree bumping the dose up to 0.5u would be a good idea but do so when you can get one or two mid cycle tests in to see how Cloud is reacting to the new dose.

I love that you'd like to help out. Even when you are relatively new to this dance, you can help a lot by welcoming new members and making them feel at home here. Often times just commiserating about the feelings that so often accompany the shock of the diagnosis and the overwhelming fear of dealing with it (testing. injecting etc.), helps immensely. Sometimes general emotional support is needed as much if not more than technical help in those early days. :)
 
trapnurse said:
Also I'd like to know how I could help others with my limited knowledge, I want to give back as much as I've been helped.
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This is how I got started with helping and still consider myself a less experienced member than the veterans. I mainly helped relate to newbies, general questions, little tricks I learned when getting Maury's routine down and moved now to where I am today :). I'm big on :bookworm::bookworm::bookworm: and have my own file of information compiled from what I've learned here. On Prozinc I am nicknamed "The Librarian" :joyful:. Was told the best way to give back was to help others like the help I am given :cat:
 
I moved cloud to 0.5, I think. It's a 50 unit needle and it's REALLY hard to even see an space small between those lines. And it's possibly that I have been more so giving him 0.5? But I've been trying to be as accurate as possible. SO if I have been giving him 0.5 should I slide him up to that on my spread sheet. I gave him 1 u since I couldn't measure out between those two and I'll be testing him soon.
 

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I can see what you mean! I'm crossed eyed from looking at the picture! :woot: As long as you keep an eye on Cloud he'll be fine but going forward, it would be much easier for you to adjust doses with syringes with 1/2 unit markings on them. It's still a matter of eyeballing the quarter unit doses but still much easier than with a full unit syringe. They are readily available at any pharmacy although I know in some states you need a Rx to buy them. You can also order them online from ADW Diabetes. HERE are the ones I use. ADW has other brands like Monoject and Ulticare that some folks use.

There are a couple of methods you could use to do doses less than 1u with your current syringes. Draw up coloured water in a used syringe and push out the coloured water until you think you are at 0.5u. Use that syringe as a comparison for drawing up the insulin. The other method is to draw up some water in a used syringe and slowly push out drops till the syringe is empty. Then when drawing up insulin for dosing, draw up to 1u and then let out a quarter (0.75u), half (0.5u) or 3/4 (0.25u)the number of drops you counted on the test syringe.

Both of these will work to give you consistent doses although not totally accurate but then even with the half unit marked syringes, doses will be a drop or 2 different sometimes. Consistency is more important than being spot on accurate.

I'll check back later to see how the cycle is going! :)
 
So in the case of tonight I won't be home due to work till 7 am. Should I give him the same 1 unit and food and roll with that?
 
Have you taken another test since +6? If so where was Cloud at and when was it taken? I'm thinking we need to see what Cloud's pre-shot is. It might be lower or higher tonight and right now that is anybody's guess. If memory serves it's only about 6:30 in your location and you usually shoot about 10:30? Is that right?
 
I won't be around for your PMPS but I like Linda's suggestion of knowing what his PS is before saying to stick with 1.0U :). Very nice blues today, Cloud :cool:
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Have you taken another test since +6? If so where was Cloud at and when was it taken? I'm thinking we need to see what Cloud's pre-shot is. It might be lower or higher tonight and right now that is anybody's guess. If memory serves it's only about 6:30 in your location and you usually shoot about 10:30? Is that right?
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Yes I give him his shot at 10:30. I was making dinnner / my breakfast for work and then took a shower and then I tested him! Still in the 100's! He's putting up with the pokes easier today. I did give him two crunchies treats for performing a trick he hadn't done in ages for me. But that'sa he has had between. I leave for work at 10:45 so I got 15 after to get ready.
If his numbers are low. Like. Say low 200s to 190 or so, should I go 0.50 or stay the course and feed with shot?
 
At 175 I would NOT give him the same dose tonight. I'd suggest either half or skip. That pre-shot is much lower and you don't want to take a chance of too low a nadir.
 
I think I'll have to skip the insulin dose tonight his level went up then down. It's a bit worrying he has food and hopefully he'll stay in the 300 or lower when I get home to test him.
But I need those half mark syringes badly I'll just have to TRY to eyeball a 0.75 tomorrow
 
Sounds like a plan. If you are unsure what you are dosing, I think trying to make sure you reduce enough might be dicey. Doubtful he'll go much lower without insulin. Leave him some food and he'll be fine. :D
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Sounds like a plan. If you are unsure what you are dosing, I think trying to make sure you reduce enough might be dicey. Doubtful he'll go much lower without insulin. Leave him some food and he'll be fine. :D
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Do you think i should stick with 0.50 until I have paycheck next week to get the half marked syringes?
 
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trapnurse said:
Do you think i should stick with 0.50 until I have paycheck next week to get the half marked syringes?
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Here's an idea if you want to try 0.75 u with the syringes you have: make up some coloured water and practice drawing into a syringe and eyeballing as close to 0.75 u as you can get it. Then, use this syringe as your "measuring stick" for all the other 0.75 u doses while you wait to get the new syringes.
 
Ok, his numbers are acting kinda odd today. Good I guess since he's upholding 160s but he's oddly stable at that number and he had 0.5 of insulin this morning. I'm not to sure what to make of this given his pre shot as well. I work grave yard tonight then today days off but I think I'll need advise for this.... he's acting like he's wanting food / starving but I fed him his full can this morning and he ate it all. I'm concerned about what to do and if I should feed him early
 
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Ok, his numbers are acting kinda odd today. Good I guess since he's upholding 160s but he's oddly stable at that number and he had 0.5 of insulin this morning. I'm not to sure what to make of this given his pre shot as well. I work grave yard tonight then today days off but I think I'll need advise for this.... he's acting like he's wanting food / starving but I fed him his full can this morning and he ate it all. I'm concerned about what to do and if I should feed him early
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You can feed at any time as long as it's not within two hours before preshot testing.
 
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