ASSISTANCE: 2/6 Hershey PM +5 (50)

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Hershey's PM +5 is (50). We usually feed him at +6. Should we go ahead and feed him so he, hopefully, doesn't drop too low? I don't think we can wait until +6 to test, I'm thinking more like :15. Thoughts?

THANKS!

Libby (and Hershey, too!)
 
Yes, I would go ahead and feed him. Maybe not a full meal, in case you need him to eat later. Regular low carb is fine You can test in 15-30 minutes just to be sure he is rising. It is nice this is happening near nadir so we can hope he will move up.
 
I would go with some honey on the gums. Put a little on your finger and rub it onto his gums. 38 is getting down there. And then test in 15 minutes.
 
Some gravy is good
I'll be home in 15 to help
Carl
 
Yes, honey or syrup on the gums and see if you can get him to lick the gravy only of off the high carb food. That is where most of the carb content is and you do not need to overfeed him.
 
Retesting still (38) - headed for higher carbs

Gave ~T Friskies Prime Filets with salmon & beef in sauce (highest carb our Food Lion had) - couldn't separate gravy, so little of each
 
It will take a little time for the karo and higher carb to kick in.....at least he has not dropped any further....I would rub a little more karo on his gums...you are still early in the cycle and it will take the food longer than the karo to kick in
 
Should I give more of the higher carb along with the Karo? Wasn't sure how much of the higher carb to give - How long to retest? :15?
 
Yes, 15 minutes. Just the gravy off the high carb, not the food. The gravy has the carb count. We don't want to fill him up with the actual food.
 
yes, feed the higher carb--don't feed him excessively, just a little..... and rub a little more karo on his gums...check in 15 mins
 
My comp is acting weird - did give Karo, again. Can't separate the gravy from the food, so will feed another little bit now.
 
That is good...just feed him a teaspoon or so....

My computer is acting weird too...must be a NC thing!

You are doing good....hopefully he will be up a little on your next test.
 
What I tried to post before is that he hasn't asked for food, actually hasn't asked all day...odd...but, each time he woofs it down! Retesting (30)

Going with more karo, too
 
Did you retest and get a 30? Or you will be back in 30 secs?

He is woofing down the food because is BG is low...that is normal...
 
You do not need him to go much lower.

How is he acting, other than he is very hungry? Is he alert?

Also, not to alarm you, but if it was necessary to go to a vet...how far is the trip?
 
Recap +5 (50) fed 1/8 can reg food (1/2 usual amt)
Retest (38) Karo & 1 T higher carb
Retest (38) Karo & 1 T higher carb
Retest (30) Karo & 2 T higher carb

Now :10 past +6 - Hope that means we're looking up??
 
He is alert and acting quite like himself. I need to look up an after hours vet...don't worry, I was already alarmed...
 
I hope so too, but just because it is +6 that doesn't mean he will automatically rise. Can you retest again?
 
Yes, look up an after hours vet...I remember you were not in Raleigh but, were in the Durham area...there should be an Emergency vet in that area....I think I would try to find where the closest one is located..just in case we can't get him up with the Karo and High Carb food...

You are doing good! I am impressed!
 
8:45pm Retest (33) - just gave another T of higher carb food - now he's had ~ 1/2 can - should we go with more karo, too?
 
Doug is on the other comp looking up after hours vet - He thinks Chapel Hill Blvd, Durham, is closest to us. I think it's 35 - 45 min away. There are 2 that alternate being open, so he's trying to figure out which one is open tonight. When do you make that kind of decision??
 
Yes, I would continue to rub the karo on his gums....he is staying flat with the karo and high carb food and we don't want him to drop any further...
 
Doug and Libby,

Just want you to know we are all watching. We want to have only one voice (Kim) so you don't get bombarded with advice.

You are doing great.
 
If he stays flat and we can get him creeping up, we probably can handle it. But, if I was you, and I got a test any lower than 30-- I would head toward the vet. I would take my testing supplies and Karo with me. If you head that way-- you can always test and if he rises and you do not need the vet--you can turn around and come home. But, given the distance, if he drops into the high 20s I would start that way.
 
Good! I don't know who is more relieved...you or me!

But, you must continue to test and watch him. This higher BG is due to the karo and higher carb food. The karo will not last that long, so the number could come back down. I doubt it will come back into the 30s, but you need to continue to test.

Give his ears a break and test again in 30 mins.

Where are you in the cycle....+6.5?
 
Still watching, YAY!!!! You guys are doing great!!!!!!, and Kim you are an angel. I’m going back to being quiet again :)
 
Yes, we're :10 past +6.5. Will test at +7? So, no more food/karo until after we see that result, right?

I had already gone and gotten dressed in real clothes, have my shoes ready, was starting to pack a cooler bag for Doug and me and was praying like crazy! (Still am!) It is SUCH a comfort to have y'all here with us!
 
Right, no more food or Karo until you test again!

I was praying too!

We will stay here with you until you retest to be sure you are okay.
 
Libby, Doug and Kim,

Awesome job! Several of us were paying close attention, but tried to keep the confusion to a minimum. I just posted a thread about "Hypos" explaining my thoughts.

Carl
 
+7 (96) Hershey seems fat and happy - looking a little sleepy at this point. He's hunkered down in a blanket in the rocking chair almost asleep. So, we retest in another :30? When can we say the crisis has past?

Any ideas on why this happened? I was concerned earlier today when I thought we should've given a .6, but gave .8 and nothing happened. PMPS I was sure about the .8, measured EXTRA carefully since it was my first time going solo, and this...
 
I think it is fair to say the crisis is over! Hershey has a full belly and is going to sleep!

I noticed that you said Hershey got into Oreo's food this morning, that could have helped inflate his bg numbers on the am cycle and the carbs could have worn off early in his pm cycle. Outside of that, I don't know......

Hershey probably is going to go high tonight, but you need to get some dosing advice from others here before shooting. Normally after a hypo situation, the cats are very sensitive to insulin. In fact, the "old timers" say that you should skip an insulin dose after a hypo. I am not the one to advise you on this, but you need to get some feedback from the group before your next cycle.

Good Job tonight!
 
I think the crisis is just about over. I would test in 30 to make sure he's not dropped again, but if not, you and he should be good to go.

Carl
 
Thanks, so much, Kim for sticking with us! Yeah, I had thoughts about the am cycle hanging out in the back of mind, but honestly was just praying there would be an am cycle to worry about!

Thanks, Carl, Sue, Robin and Donna, too - it was comforting to see familiar names were online and with us tonight!!

So - thoughts about the am cycle? I'm asking now because most of y'all will be asleep when 2:30am comes :-)

I know Hershey got a couple of bites of Oreo's food at 2:30 this morning, but it couldn't have been more than a couple of bites since there was only 3/8 of a can before Oreo ate. Do y'all have any ideas on how we can avoid another heart pounder like tonight's? Looking at his SS, does anything jump out that we did wrong? (His SS is caught up all but the details from tonight which I will add in just a few.)

Have y'all had to take your kitty to the vet during a hypo? I was trying to figure out what kinds of information to gather. I grabbed a little cash and the debit card and was thinking of maybe putting the SS on a jump drive so didn't have to take time to print it out (and hope for no printer probs), written details of the hypo event, testing equip, karo, higher carb food, phone number and directions to the ER...I need to get his test results from the vet...and, of course, a cooler bag with water and snacks for the beans. (I carry one almost everywhere we go, just in case.) Anything else?
 
Great job, Kim and Doug and Libby! No idea why he decided to crash tonight. I think you have made great dosing decisions all along.

I think there are two possibilities for amps. Skip or tiny dose. He is likely to be high, with the Karo and gravy. After your last hypo, it took him 5 cycles to clear. Can't be sure that will happen again, but it might.
 
Normally, I would say not to start a new thread, but given the time that it is...you need to grab some attention for your next dose. It could get lost here. So, start a new thread....Dosing advice for AM cycle for Hershey..or something like that.

You definitely need to reduce your dose. And truly, I probably would skip a cycle and get some rest! But, see what others say.
 
Just wanted to say I was watching.....I was scared there for a little bit. I can't imagine how you must have felt.
Wow you guys did a amazing job. I am so happy Hershey is out of the woods. cat_pet_icon

Jenn & Baxter
 
Thank you, Jenn. My husband was cool as a cucumber, watching television with my daughter. Me? Not so much. ;-) He said Hershey's numbers started rising because I got dressed and was preparing to leave. I told him if I'd known that I would've gotten ready a lot sooner!

Thanks for checking in with us.

Libby
 
Gosh, never a dull moment around here! I got back from the vet, watched a little TV and then logged on to see all of this! Glad Hershey is ok and you are doing fine. So happy you had so many eyes on your thread, I know it had to be nerve-wracking. You did well, Mommabean!
 
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