Info AI and Feline Diabetes

Tim & Pookey

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ChatGPT, Copilot, Claude, Grok, and others are becoming more and more popular. It’s everywhere, even when you Google something, you might notice their “AI Overview” show up before any actual search results.

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Example of an AI Overview.

While these tools can be helpful, that’s just it, they’re just tools and shouldn’t be relied upon for feline diabetes care. In their current state, there are some major risks and limitations with how the technology works.

Most of these tools are powered by LLMs (Large Language Models), without getting too far into the technical weeds, they use the information they were trained on (from various places on the internet) and predict the next sequence of words you would expect. The training data can be from anywhere, human diabetes, incorrect information on random websites, etc. That’s concerning for feline diabetes treatment.

I use these tools quite a bit and have noticed the current version of ChatGPT can act like a “yes man” and try to make you feel good by telling you what you want to hear, even if it’s not the truth. We’ve seen newbies come to us on the forum in a vulnerable state. Overwhelmed by new information and diagnosis from their vet. Caregivers like this might be tempted to ask one of these AI tools for reassurance, and it will deliver that. Whereas on a forum, Facebook, or your veterinarian, real humans will consider the whole picture and factor in real-world safety.

Another concern is that these tools are often overconfident. I asked it a variety of dosing questions recently and it was awfully confident, right or wrong, that confidence is scary with how complicated and nuanced feline diabetes can be. And, there’s no accountability or feedback loop when it is wrong and puts a cat in danger.

A known issue with AI systems is hallucinations, where the tool confidently presents information that sounds factual but is entirely made up or incorrectly stitched together. It’s about how they’re designed as language models. In a medical context, especially with insulin dosing, there’s no easy way for a caregiver to know when that’s happening.

This isn’t meant to scare anyone, just trying to raise awareness. For those who have used AI tools, what has your experience been? @Karolina & Nestle seems like it's great at making comics!

- Tim
 
I agree with Tim. Good and informative post and necessary to remind ourselves that we live in a crazy AI age and we need to be careful where and how we ge our info.
I love using AI for fun stuff like comics and it's been a great pleasure making them for us here on the FD forum. Hopefully everyone enjoys them as much as I enjoy making them 😍🐈🐈‍⬛❤️
 
Excellent post Tim! We've seen some caregivers post about some really bad AI "help" here, not just on dosing. One poor member was told by ChatGPT that her cat likely had a scary secondary condition. I had to calm her down, remind her that blood testing had said otherwise. When in doubt, consult your vet for a science based opinion.
 
Yes, I admit, I've been talking with Gemini about my Tommy for a long time. It's true! They want you to have a good experience so it will agree with you! I use it still BECAUSE I like that it Explains what is happening with the numbers, the BG, the depot, all that. What's hilarious is that it gleans a ton of information from THIS site! :D You can learn a lot but be sure to always be skeptical of their answers. Try to find the errors or inconsistencies, and tell the AI. Gemini apologizes and sets it straight. Make it make sense.
 
What's hilarious is that it gleans a ton of information from THIS site!
Yep. All day, every day, thousands of bots from the big players are stealing info from the forum. I feel crummy about it because I think over time less people will join the forum because they’re relying on AI. The solution is block the bots or make the forum private, which also might lead to less people joining and contributing. I think the best we can do is spread awareness that AI isn’t perfect and sometimes you do just want a human to talk to with real world experience.
 
Yes, AI is not going away. I don't think closing the door on it is the solution. Athough I've been using Gemini, I also learned So Very Much from this site. I know I don't post much, but work gets in the way and Tommy is ok. All we can do is learn HOW to use AI properly, not to trust blindly but use as a tool and a sounding board. At the university we have to deal with it as well, as students will use it as a crutch to bypass homework, the very thing they are supposed to use to learn. When they use AI they muck it up almost every time and fail their tests. They will use it anyway. We have to learn how to help them use it properly as a tool and not a crutch. The AI is so easy to use, it's right there everywhere in our face, but we should remind newer users to go to the source. Oh, here I am! :) Everything I needed to know about switching to using a vial because pens aren't available.
 
When Gemini gives me info from my question, it tells me the source. So, when the source to someone's question is fdmb, people will come here eventually. Ultimately, they can't replace humans.
Yea, that's why I don't want to block the bots because we will get people who use AI and want to dive deeper, so they'll find us that way. Same issue with putting the forum behind a login... FDMB has made it through a lot of technology and societal changes throughout it's 30 year existence, so we'll make it through this one.
 
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