8/26 Phoebe AMPS 102 Gave insulin @+4 BG -400, pmps 304

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Shooting more than 30 minutes early can act like you are increasing the dose. If you need to leave two hours early it’s better to skip. Can you change your shot time so that you can shoot every 12 hours or no less than 11 1/2 hours ?
 
I don't have to leave.
I have 3 other cats i feed, all at the same time.
I am up 0500ish i feed cats 0600---------I can push it back to 0700. I see you mention shooting more than 30 min early acts like an increase. Is there a way to get back to my 0600-1800 dosing?
 
Eva then why did you say
it was actually 2 hours late...... 10 am gave insulin 8 pm gave insulin will do amps at 0600 tomorrow (which is 10 hours again)

When it was 4 hours late this morningand 2 hours early tonight like you said? You can't shoot tomorrow morning at 6 AM
@eva eva
 
eva eva said:
I don't have to leave.
I have 3 other cats i feed, all at the same time.
I am up 0500ish i feed cats 0600---------I can push it back to 0700. I see you mention shooting more than 30 min early acts like an increase. Is there a way to get back to my 0600-1800 dosing?
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@tiffmaxee
Elise can you please spell it out for Eva how to get back to shooting at 6AM and 6 PM pretty please because I'll screw it up
Elise I think I'm going to start drinking now :p

Can she do it this way or not since the times are all screwed up
You can work your way back to your chosen shot time by shooting 15 minutes early on each cycle or shoot 30 minutes early once per day.
@tiffmaxee
 
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I think we are saying the same thing.....just differently.
0600 102 no insulin
1000 400 2 units
1600 316 no action
2000 304 1.75 Unit this is 10 hours post am dosing
if I dose at 0600 tomorrow it again will be 10 hours. If I push it back to 0700 dosing that would be 11hours. slowly working back to the 12 hour schedule.
will this be ok? to get back to the 12 hours?
Do I need to document this differently on the SS?
 
eva eva said:
I don't have to leave.
I have 3 other cats i feed, all at the same time.
I am up 0500ish i feed cats 0600---------I can push it back to 0700. I see you mention shooting more than 30 min early acts like an increase. Is there a way to get back to my 0600-1800 dosing?
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Getting back to shooting 6 AM and 6 PM
You can work your way back to your chosen shot time by shooting 15 minutes early on each cycle or shoot 30 minutes early once per day.
@eva eva
 
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eva eva said:
I think we are saying the same thing.....just differently.
0600 102 no insulin
1000 400 2 units
1600 316 no action
2000 304 1.75 Unit this is 10 hours post am dosing
if I dose at 0600 tomorrow it again will be 10 hours. If I push it back to 0700 dosing that would be 11hours. slowly working back to the 12 hour schedule.
will this be ok? to get back to the 12 hours?
Do I need to document this differently on the SS?
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Eva don't use

0600 102 no insulin
1000 400 2 units
1600 316 no action
2000 304
You need to use the + 4 2 units
The rest I can't figure out what you mean
@eva eva

Eva make sure
.Get a +1and +2 to start with tonight like Elise said and Post results.
 
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eva eva said:
I will start with 2 unit tomorrow am.
What do you consider low to not give insulin?
Yes I gave her insulin at 8pm
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Eva want to be sure you saw what Elise said about this

Here I copied it because bI didn't see you liked it so I don't know if you read it
With SLGS you never shoot under 90. Whole new we suggest posting for dosing advice if the bg is under 200. If under 150 stall without food and see if the bg goes up. If it doesn’t either skip or shoot a reduced dose if you can monitor and have supplies. If you can’t monitor skip. If close to 200 it’s pretty safe to shoot. Refer to the SLGS sticky. If the bg is low for your cat ask for help. Just add a question mark prefix and out dosing help needed or bg ### should I shoot in the subject bar.
 
tiffmaxee said:
Here’s a sticky that explains how to get back to shooting on time.
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/getting-back-on-a-12-12-shot-schedule.101059/
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Elise I don't mean to be a pain in the butt about this but since she shot 4 hours late AM and 2 hours early PM
Can she still do it like this
Can she do it this way or not since the times are all screwed up
You can work your way back to your chosen shot time by shooting 15 minutes early on each cycle or shoot 30 minutes early once per day.
@tiffmaxee
 
@eva eva
I think you should start to post on the Lantus Board tomorrow morning
Tap on the blue link
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/lantus-levemir-biosimilars.9/
Look to the right , you will see Post New Thread tap on it
Then put the Date first, then Phoebe then her AMPS # and tap post
To add more tests after that for EXAMPLE 100 +2. Don't give us times
and additional tests after that , You can continue with PMPS # then and additional tests after that

Now to go back to add those tests look to the right you will see the word Thread Tools, tap it then tap Edit Title and add all your tests then tap Save.

We do a new post everyday on the Lantus Board and we also link the previous post ( your post )to the new one ,
I'll try to explain how to do it

The best that I can explain how to do it is to look up top where that picture is of that cat on the left hand side , above it will be this post in that long line where it sayshttps://feline diabetes.com/FDMB/threads//need -help. do you see it ?
You copy it and then paste it on your new post tomorrow where you would begin to write something
Also write it's your first time posting on the Lantus Board
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Eva don't use

0600 102 no insulin
1000 400 2 units
1600 316 no action
2000 304
You need to use the + 4 2 units
The rest I can't figure out what you mean
@eva eva

Eva make sure
.Get a +1and +2 to start with tonight like Elise said and Post results.
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I am sorry-- i missed this post last night. I have been up since 0630, I am holding food till 0745 then do her amps.
it looks like I missed a few of the posts last night.

tiffmaxee said:
Here’s a sticky that explains how to get back to shooting on time.
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/getting-back-on-a-12-12-shot-schedule.101059/
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thank you---how do I find these informational posts?
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
@eva eva
I think you should start to post on the Lantus Board tomorrow morning
Tap on the blue link
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/lantus-levemir-biosimilars.9/
Look to the right , you will see Post New Thread tap on it
Then put the Date first, then Phoebe then her AMPS # and tap post
To add more tests after that for EXAMPLE 100 +2. Don't give us times
and additional tests after that , You can continue with PMPS # then and additional tests after that

Now to go back to add those tests look to the right you will see the word Thread Tools, tap it then tap Edit Title and add all your tests then tap Save.

We do a new post everyday on the Lantus Board and we also link the previous post ( your post )to the new one ,
I'll try to explain how to do it

The best that I can explain how to do it is to look up top where that picture is of that cat on the left hand side , above it will be this post in that long line where it sayshttps://feline diabetes.com/FDMB/threads//need -help. do you see it ?
You copy it and then paste it on your new post tomorrow where you would begin to write something
Also write it's your first time posting on the Lantus Board
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I think I did it right.------ How do I make a list of "watched threads"

Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Getting back to shooting 6 AM and 6 PM
You can work your way back to your chosen shot time by shooting 15 minutes early on each cycle or shoot 30 minutes early once per day.
@eva eva
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i did this amps 15 minutes early. working my way back to 0600--thank you for your patience.
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
@eva eva
I think you should start to post on the Lantus Board tomorrow morning
Tap on the blue link
https://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/lantus-levemir-biosimilars.9/
Look to the right , you will see Post New Thread tap on it
Then put the Date first, then Phoebe then her AMPS # and tap post
To add more tests after that for EXAMPLE 100 +2. Don't give us times
and additional tests after that , You can continue with PMPS # then and additional tests after that

Now to go back to add those tests look to the right you will see the word Thread Tools, tap it then tap Edit Title and add all your tests then tap Save.

We do a new post everyday on the Lantus Board and we also link the previous post ( your post )to the new one ,
I'll try to explain how to do it

The best that I can explain how to do it is to look up top where that picture is of that cat on the left hand side , above it will be this post in that long line where it sayshttps://feline diabetes.com/FDMB/threads//need -help. do you see it ?
You copy it and then paste it on your new post tomorrow where you would begin to write something
Also write it's your first time posting on the Lantus Board
Click to expand...


"To add more tests after that for EXAMPLE 100 +2. Don't give us times
and additional tests after that , You can continue with PMPS # then and additional tests after that"
Question: does this get added to the title for the day or do I click on the link and add it to this thread?
 
eva eva said:
"To add more tests after that for EXAMPLE 100 +2. Don't give us times
and additional tests after that , You can continue with PMPS # then and additional tests after that"
Question: does this get added to the title for the day or do I click on the link and add it to this thread?
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you continually edit the thread title throughout the day

You'll see in the morning, everyone has posted threads with just the kitty's name, date, and AMPS number

then as the day goes on, everyone's thread titles get longer and longer as they add more numbers.

For example, yesterday's numbers for Phoebe would look like this by the time you had done all the tests and kept editing the thread title:

8/26 Phoebe AMPS 102, +4 400, +8 316, PMPS 304

 
so tomorrow when i post, I copy the search bar above, and start a new day thread with the new date, Phoebes amps, and then paste the copied search bar in the body of the thread, and post, editing the title throughout the day?
This will attach ALL the posts from when? (won't that get long? I see 69 posts already)
 
eva eva said:
I think I did it right.------ How do I make a list of "watched threads"



i did this amps 15 minutes early. working my way back to 0600--thank you for your patience.
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You don't have to thank me we've all been there before ,so was I
I had a ton of questions and and still ask questions . Don't worry ok
 
eva eva said:
so tomorrow when i post, I copy the search bar above, and start a new day thread with the new date, Phoebes amps, and then paste the copied search bar in the body of the thread, and post, editing the title throughout the day?
This will attach ALL the posts from when? (won't that get long? I see 69 posts already)
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it doesn't exactly attach them but if someone clicks the link it will take them back to this thread so they can review it if need be. It is for the experts who like to review history on a kitty before they dispense advice.
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Eva want to be sure you saw what Elise said about this

Here I copied it because bI didn't see you liked it so I don't know if you read it
With SLGS you never shoot under 90. Whole new we suggest posting for dosing advice if the bg is under 200. If under 150 stall without food and see if the bg goes up. If it doesn’t either skip or shoot a reduced dose if you can monitor and have supplies. If you can’t monitor skip. If close to 200 it’s pretty safe to shoot. Refer to the SLGS sticky. If the bg is low for your cat ask for help. Just add a question mark prefix and out dosing help needed or bg ### should I shoot in the subject bar.
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thanks!
how do I find "stickys"?
 
so I have done a lot of bg today. Phoebe is now hissing at me. I am sure her ears hurt. Do these numbers tell us anything. Her best sugar is my last one for the night. I don't know how much lower she will go without staying up all night.
I believe the plan was to stay at 2 unit for 5 days. So on Sept 2 we re-evaluate? Can I back off on bg only amps and pmps and 1 before bedtime to give her ears a break?
 
eva eva said:
so I have done a lot of bg today. Phoebe is now hissing at me. I am sure her ears hurt. Do these nsomething

ll us anything. Her best sugar is my last one for the night. I don't know how much lower she will go without staying up all night.
I believe the plan was to stay at 2 unit for 5 days. So on Sept 2 we re-evaluate? Can I back off on bg only amps and pmps and 1 before bedtime to give her ears a break?
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Sorry just saw this, what you wrote above should have gone on the one for 8-27 I moved it over there for you Go look

If you forgot how to find your most recent post tap in the of Phoebe ,the tap profile page, then tap on postings ,you will see all the post you did

You wouldn't have had to stay up all night either, if you saw that her BG had dropped really low early in the cycle then you would have needed to check her BG again.

Do you mean you only want to test her AMPS only tomorrow morning?
Then PMPS and test one more time before you go to bed

I would test her AMPS and then get a test at +4 or +5 obviously if you see she really dropped low of course you would need to test more
Test her PMPS tomorrow night and just one before bed is ok

Yes we will evaluate on Sept 2 nd ,remember is she drops under 90 at any time you will reduce the next dose by 0.25
Her numbers are coming down considering how the messed up everything got
Don't forget to fill in your spreadsheet with the numbers you got for tonight


The normal range for a cat on a human meter is 50-120.
On a human meter, 50 is your “take action” number meaning it's time to intervene with food to bring the BG up , always ask if you're not sure about something

Let's say you got a BG very early in a cycle of maybe 62 you would want to feed her about a tablespoon of the Fancy Feast Pate , then test again in 30 -45 minutes again to make sure it's coming up.
Cats on Lantus usually hit their lowest around +6 but could vary
Right now we don't have to worry about this
As you test more meaning every day you will get an idea when her nadir is ( lowest point during the cycle)
When this happens to members they will always go back in to their Title and in the Front of the Date put HELP LOW BG #
Let's not worry about that now

Oh you mentioned her ears might be sore
If you see that they might look sore a lot of members will put pure coconut oil on them



For his ears you can put some pure coconut oil on them you can probably get it at a health food store or on line

I Copied this from a member that used it
just make sure the only ingredient is coconut oil (mine is solid at room temp and I would take an itty bitty dab and rub on his ears)
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Sorry just saw this, what you wrote above should have gone on the one for 8-27 I moved it over there for you Go look

If you forgot how to find your most recent post tap in the of Phoebe ,the tap profile page, then tap on postings ,you will see all the post you did

You wouldn't have had to stay up all night either, if you saw that her BG had dropped really low early in the cycle then you would have needed to check her BG again.

Do you mean you only want to test her AMPS only tomorrow morning? I think only 4 times today and forward-unless she tanks. amps, pmps, and one about +4-+5 after each shot.
Then PMPS and test one more time before you go to bed

I would test her AMPS and then get a test at +4 or +5 obviously if you see she really dropped low of course you would need to test more
Test her PMPS tomorrow night and just one before bed is ok------------ok will do

Yes we will evaluate on Sept 2 nd ,remember is she drops under 90 at any time you will reduce the next dose by 0.25-----good to know
Her numbers are coming down considering how the messed up everything got
Don't forget to fill in your spreadsheet with the numbers you got for tonight


The normal range for a cat on a human meter is 50-120.
On a human meter, 50 is your “take action” number meaning it's time to intervene with food to bring the BG up , always ask if you're not sure about something-----if she gets this low---I give her a rescue food----post I need further help on the lantus thread?

Let's say you got a BG very early in a cycle of maybe 62 you would want to feed her about a tablespoon of the Fancy Feast Pate , then test again in 30 -45 minutes again to make sure it's coming up.
Cats on Lantus usually hit their lowest around +6 but could vary
Right now we don't have to worry about this
As you test more meaning every day you will get an idea when her nadir is ( lowest point during the cycle)
When this happens to members they will always go back in to their Title and in the Front of the Date put HELP LOW BG #
Let's not worry about that now

Oh you mentioned her ears might be sore
If you see that they might look sore a lot of members will put pure coconut oil on them------thank-you



For her ears you can put some pure coconut oil on them you can probably get it at a health food store or on line

I Copied this from a member that used it
just make sure the only ingredient is coconut oil (mine is solid at room temp and I would take an itty bitty dab and rub on his ears)
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I entered all my numbers on her SS last night-on my laptop--somehow they didn't record. so I re-entered them this am. I have answered in color on all your points. (so I don't miss anything). Let me know if this is not a good way to answer.
 
About only testing 4 times a day today and you said going forward each pre shot for both cycles and then one more test around +4 or +5
I think you should test at least by +3 and get a +6 at least for the AM cycles
The night cycle one more test after the first shot yes you need another test before you go to bed. I'm going to ask another member who is more experienced than me
@eva eva
 
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Ok. I will test +3 and +6 today ------how long would you recommend?
I have the coconut oil.....does it affect her sugars? Cuz i use vaseline so I can get a good sample.
So, on the evening times---you are suggesting 1 or 2 more?
 
eva eva said:
Ok. I will test +3 and +6 today ------how long would you recommend?
I have the coconut oil.....does it affect her sugars? Cuz i use vaseline so I can get a good sample.
So, on the evening times---you are suggesting 1 or 2 more?
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Eva please copy what you just said here and go and put it on today's post 8-28 so we can see what Else says OK No the coconut oil will not affect her BG , I only suggested it if her ears look beat up , you can continue to use the Vaseline. What size lancets are you using to prick her ears with? We suggest using a 26 or 28 gauge lancet in the beginning because it will make a bigger hole and get them to bleed better
@eva eva
 
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