6/29 Black | +6, 81

zerovector said:
50!
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Yay! Getting there buddy. Are you still using an AT? If so we aren’t quite out of the woods but 50 is nice to see!

zerovector said:
Yes it was +1 out. We are now +6 which is his usual nadir. I only let him eat his fill because I wanted to see his BG bump, but it didn't.
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So next time I think you’ll have to space that food out - to not fill him up - so we can try bump him with food as well as syrup.

I’d also recommend that you go out and buy a higher carb wet food at least some at 20% or more even, if possible. Beef in gravy is a higher carb one… if all that syrup plus a half can of 16% didn’t budge him much, I think you need a very high carb wet food to help in these situations.

Here’s a link to a food chart that should give you some ideas for higher carb food https://catinfo.org/chart/index.php?sort=company ASC&carbs="<;10"
 
Gus the Furminator said:
Yay! Getting there buddy. Are you still using an AT? If so we aren’t quite out of the woods but 50 is nice to see!


So next time I think you’ll have to space that food out - to not fill him up - so we can try bump him with food as well as syrup.

I’d also recommend that you go out and buy a higher carb wet food at least some at 20% or more even, if possible. Beef in gravy is a higher carb one… if all that syrup plus a half can of 16% didn’t budge him much, I think you need a very high carb wet food to help in these situations.

Here’s a link to a food chart that should give you some ideas for higher carb food https://catinfo.org/chart/index.php?sort=company ASC&carbs="<;10"
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What is a AT? I haven't given any syrup in over an hour so this rise should be all on his own. Now he's hovering over us for our food but won't touch his.

I also hope not to have this happen again...my gut was telling me to skip his shot this morning, but I know we can shoot any number over 50 so I did. I am always reluctant to shoot him under 100.
 
I agree with higher carb food. I had 20-25% for times like this. Check again in a half hour this time. I think you need to skip tonight to drain the depot unless he bounces sky high from all the syrup.
 
zerovector said:
What is a AT? I haven't given any syrup in over an hour so this rise should be all on his own. Now he's hovering over us for our food but won't touch his.

I also hope not to have this happen again...my gut was telling me to skip his shot this morning, but I know we can shoot any number over 50 so I did. I am always reluctant to shoot him under 100.
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I see you have not taken earned reductions in the past. Under 50 means a reduction unless over a year diabetic and it appears he was just diagnosed in April. Right?
 
tiffmaxee said:
I see you have not taken earned reductions in the past. Under 50 means a reduction unless over a year diabetic and it appears he was just diagnosed in April. Right?
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He hasn't been under 50 since 6/7 - where I reduced him from 1.25 to 1. I brought him back up to 1.25 this monday after 5 cycles of sky high nadirs. Was that wrong? I am still learning my way around this.
 
tiffmaxee said:
If using a pet meter he needs to be over 68 and you don’t shoot over 68 either. Good catch Kim.
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I have boatloads of diabetes supplies because at least 3 different family members here have had diabetes, I am using a Glucocard Shine which is a human meter.
 
zerovector said:
What is a AT? I haven't given any syrup in over an hour so this rise should be all on his own. Now he's hovering over us for our food but won't touch his.

I also hope not to have this happen again...my gut was telling me to skip his shot this morning, but I know we can shoot any number over 50 so I did. I am always reluctant to shoot him under 100.
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Again, sorry, thought you had a pet meter spreadsheet AT is alpha trak which is a pet meter.

If he hasn’t had syrup in an hour, 50 is a great number to see after this.

Don’t let this discourage you from shooting lower numbers, we know this dose is too high now and you did great in getting him through it but with a reduction (which was earned) those numbers might just change to have a nice green surf.

Have a look at my spreadsheet to see what happened when I shot lower numbers, look back at 2021 as well.
 
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Gus the Furminator said:
Again, sorry, thought you had a pet meter spreadsheet AT is alpha trak which is a pet meter.

If he hasn’t had syrup in an hour, 50 is a great number to see after this.

Don’t let this discourage you from shooting lower numbers, we know this dose is too high now and you did great in getting him through it but with a reduction (which was earned) those numbers might just change to have a nice green surf.

Have a look at my spreadsheet so see what happened when I shot lower numbers, look back at 2022 as well.
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It's very encouraging, I love that gus is OTJ!

I am just always surprised how much a little increase will change BG. it didn't seem as if 1U was doing anything at all from Thursday to Sunday, then 1.25U for not even 3 days sends it over the top.
 
zerovector said:
It's very encouraging, I love that gus is OTJ!
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Thanks. :) I spent a lot of nights with Bhooma and days with Elise (thank you again, lol) working through days just like what you had… though Gus responded much better to the HC and syrup than Mr. Black, Sheesh. Not going to lie, it was a rollercoaster but if I had to do it again, I’d do it in a heart beat but I’d have posted here and started TR way sooner than I did.

You are in good hands here! They are extremely knowledgeable and I learned so much from them!

zerovector said:
it didn't seem as if 1U was doing anything at all from Thursday to Sunday, then 1.25U for not even 3 days sends it over the top.
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That is exactly why we increase in small increments, it’s amazing how much .25u can do, and with lantus also need to consider the depot.
 
You were right to try an increase. But given the 127 the night before. It’s a judgement call. I could have been wrong too. I might have waited a tad longer. The lower numbers were earlier on I see. Max was so sensitive he got 1/8 increases and decreases. Some cats go low on just a drop orca few drops which means they are in remission.
 
tiffmaxee said:
You were right to try an increase. But given the 127 the night before. It’s a judgement call. I could have been wrong too. I might have waited a tad longer. The lower numbers were earlier on I see. Max was so sensitive he got 1/8 increases and decreases. Some cats go low on just a drop orca few drops which means they are in remission.
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How do you even dose 1/8? That's nearly the difference between some bubbles and not!
 
zerovector said:
Yeah, I just went ahead and gave his dose, 1U.
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He’s probably on his way up but grab +2 or 3 … not sure what your time like (I think your shot times are 10/10?) so maybe a before bed test or set an alarm to check him. The larger depot is still at play so just to be safe since he has dropped down from the higher numbers in past cycles
 
Gus the Furminator said:
He’s probably on his way up but grab +2 or 3 … not sure what your time like (I think your shot times are 10/10?) so maybe a before bed test or set an alarm to check him. The larger depot is still at play so just to be safe since he has dropped down from the higher numbers in past cycles
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I do a +3 and +6 curve every night if I don't miss my alarm. Shot times are 9am/pm. I don't sleep very much anymore
 
zerovector said:
I do a +3 and +6 curve every night if I don't miss my alarm. Shot times are 9am/pm. I don't sleep very much anymore
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Awesome that you do that :bighug:!

Not the not sleeping part .. but I totally understand, Gus was a total night time partier!! So many nights up until 4am with Gus and Bhooma :) He rarely dropped during the day. These cats I tells ya, they’re lucky they’re so darn cute and we love them!
 
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