6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89PMP 144+1=258+3=176+5=118

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YESTERDAY'S #S
AMPS 270
+2=276
+4=240
+6=164
PMPS 190
+2=187
+3.75=107
+5.25=99
+6.75=109

YESTERDAY'S LINK:

I was pretty tired last night so I slept off and on in between posting results. Max was very quiet yet again. He didn't wake me this morning at 5 a.m. as usual. Maybe all this switching of foods is making him feel a little off? Maybe the fish oil? I'm going to skip the oil for a few days and see.He's eating enough, just seems depressed or something.

Thanks for checking in on us last night. My mom has been on blood thinners for years. This huge jump in numbers might be due to the antibiotics or maybe one of the tests was off and she was getting too much. The scary part would be if there is a bleed internally somewhere. My sister is going to take her to the doctor's office for the test instead of having the lab come to the house today. Fingers crossed that a few days off is starting to bring her level to a save number or she will need a transfusion and have to be admitted to the hospital. She just can't catch a break.

Max is not responding to less insulin in the way I've seen cats do when they are getting better. He touched green last night but is back up to yellow this morning. The spike isn't as high as usual but I was hoping for better. I still can't get the bubbles out of the syringes and am quite frustrated with that. I can get them up to the top but not out. Maybe that is part of the problem??

Gave him his insulin 15 minutes early to get back on track. Every minute helps with the late nights/early mornings!!
 
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Hi Elise,

Sending prayers for Max. Sometimes with Lovey it would take a few cycles for Lovey to adjust to it.

My husband is on cumidin also. He gets checks every few weeks. I sending prayers for Mom too that the level will adjust and that there is no internal bleeding.

I am sorry Elise for a tough week.
 
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(((Elise)))

Sending many eating and healing vines for Max. I hope you can figure it out. Once when I was telling my vet that Gus seemed to have off days, she said, "well, as we get older, so do we so why do we expect our cats to have perfect days every day?". Reasonable question. I know you've been concerned about the sleeping that has been going on for a few months but this lack of appetite is new.

I'm glad to see he's starting to clear the bounce. Paws crossed he will do more than just tip his toes in green. Boy does he like his nighttime green cycles!

Also sending prayers for your mom. My mom is also on coumadin and they check her weekly because her numbers (I think it is INR??) are so erratic. She's scared us to death when her blood has been too thin and she has fallen. I think coumadin is a very scary drug. I hope they are able to get your mom regulated with it soon. So many small things can affect it. :roll: :roll:
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57

Max just doesn't have any energy ever! He's now into diving which I bet doesn't help much. With age I know they slow down but my gut says something is just not right. BP is always my #l concern but as I've said to the point of boring you all, it's nearly impossible to get a good read with him. Diabetes? Pancreatitis? He just ate his mc food I put after after seeing the 57 so I doubt it's pancreatitis. Unless he shows any other symptoms I guess I'll just let him be.

Coumadin is a necessary evil. Her antibiotic that she was on for the latest UTI is know to cause issues and so they were tested her every couple of days.She got a mega dose of vitamin K last night. I'm not sure it has ever been this bad and she was on this drug last time for the same type of UTI, thank you Cedar Sinai hospital for another hospital infection. At least it isn't resistant to too many drugs. The worry of course is internal bleeding. Of course it has to be a Friday when the lab won't come out until Monday.
 
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Steady there Max - no need for that sort of diving. :shock: :mrgreen:

Does Max play at all? Purring? Earlier this year Neko wasn't moving around much or interacting with us, mostly sleeping. And it took an effort to get her purring. For her I think it was pain related - as acrocats can get arthritis, but so do a lot of older cats. Now that she gets some daily pain relief there's been quite a difference. I don't know how long it's been since bloodwork for Max but you might want to consider a vetty visit if it's been a while.

Sending healing vines out to your mother. What a worry not getting lab results until after the weekend.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59

Max had labs done the end of April when he had those weird episodes of grunting. and funny breathing and all was great!! I am thinking it is likely that he has arthritis and will discuss it at his next vet appointment. The x-rays of his heart and lungs did show some arthritis in his back.

They are waiting for the results of the coumadin near the doctor's office. Those we will get right away. More tests can't be done until after the weekend so if there isn't improvement they will have to admit my mom to the hospital.

I just gave Max a little more mc, small amount which he ate so hopefully he will surf now.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59

Spinal arthritis often shows up when they are X-raying something else. My Buster (GA) had heart X-rays that showed arthritis too. Fish oil is supposed to help that, but you could also try something like Cosequin.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59

Wendy is spot on that if he is having any pain, pain meds (like buprenorphine) could help him. Gus was on a very low maintenance dose twice a day for the last several years of his life. He never had any issue with it (e.g. constipation) and it was just enough to keep the edge off but not make him zoned out. He was very alert.

Your poor mom.....
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59

Neko is now on buprenorphine BID and it makes a big difference for her. She's a lot more playful now. I'm adding a bit of babyfood squash to her diet, not entirely sure she needs it but she likes it. Cosequen/Adequan also help with arthritis and work on the condition itself instead of pain relief.

BTW: I got a Lo on my meter last night and was thinking of you.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59

I hope Max feels better soon, Elise.
Sending more vines.

And sending prayers for your mom too.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59+8=62

Good news!! The huge dose of vitamin K worked so no hospital necessary for my mom. While waiting for results they had lunch and went to the hand doctor because my mom's finger was bothering her. They took x-rays and all looks good and they shortened the splint.

I have some bupe here from his pancreatitis so I may try some to see if it does anything for him. He already gets 1/8t miralax every morning and he likes squash as well so I can add that if the bupe works as I know it can be constipating. I have a friend that is using adequan for her cat with good results so I'll ask my vet about it next week. I believe cosequin is over the counter so I'm going to check into that one right now. He very well could have arthritis in his legs which is why he is staying so close to the ground. Poor baby. ( I can't very well say poor old man though he will be 17 middle/end of September. I don't have an exact date as he was a rescue).

Meanwhile he is surfing nicely right now.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59+8=62+9.5=89

That is good news for your mom! You must be relieved to hear that. Cosequin helped Chi Chi alot, but we stopped it when she was dx with fd, and I had started her back on it later on and her numbers started rising. I dont know if it was the Cosequin or not..and I really need to start it again, as she has a limp on her front left leg that shes had for a long time, which the vet said was arthritis. I hear you on the bubbles! Tonite I bet I wasted 6 units of insulin trying to get rid of a big bubble. I almost cried, I was so frustrated and tired and the clan was ready to eat. I finally just shot and the bubble was still there but smaller. I hear her meowing now, so Im grabbing a +1. Have a good night :smile:
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59+8=62+9.5=89

(((Elise)))

I'm so glad to read that your mom seems to be out of the woods! That must such huge relief, and Max is looking phenomenal today. Glad to see him surfing those gorgeous greens again. His liver just had to make it abundantly clear with some yellows that he's ready for less insulin. :smile:
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59+8=62+9.5=89

Glad to see that your mom made some improvement today. I hope it continues.

Max...I hope that he is feeling a bit better tonight. If his back is giving him problems, a small dose of bupe may be just what the doctor ordered. Nice decline!
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59+8=62+9.5=89

Hi. Thanks for all the visits and vines.

Marje, they told us my mom should try and eat the same amount of foods containing K each day. If you eat spinach, eat it every day or not at all kind of thing. It's way easier said than done. I bet most people fluctuate a lot. If your mom's problem isn't a heart valve issue there are newer drugs to try but I think you told me it was.

Wendy, thanks for the suggestions for arthritis. I think I'll try some rather than wait for our next vet trip as we were just there the end of April. BTW, did you retest when you saw the LO and if so what happened? I bet that one surprised you. Did you change anything? Max won't play. He used to like glitter balls and plastic straws but he isn't interested in either any more. He will purr and I managed to keep him up on the bed with me a couple of times for a few minutes. He never slept there when I went to bed, just during the day and until I go to bed.

Mariko, thanks for the vines. Did you get my email?

Laura, I've been shooting with small bubble as well. I get the bubbles up to the top but can't get them out. I just don't get it. Are you using a vial like I am? Which syringes?

Thanks Jen and Catherine. The doctor called and wants us to bring my mom to the hospital tomorrow for another test because the difference between last night and today are so huge and he is puzzled. So the drama continues. She did respond real quickly to K in the hospital once so today's test might be right. If so he might change her blood thinner to get her back to the right level.

I hope everyone has a nice and peaceful weekend.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AMPS 257+4=164+6=57+7=59+8=62+9.5=89

Elise, I am using the vial and Terumo thinpro syringes. Ive heard they are known for bubble issues. I have used Relion and Publix brand previously, but they were worse as far as the markings go, and the plunger did not glide well at all. I like the Terumo, but the bubbles are frustrating. I was told to draw the insulin out very slowly, and it does help, most of the time. Its just when I do get a larger bubble, I cant get rid of it. Next time Im just going to throw it out and start over I think. I expelled the whole 3 units finally and drew in another 3+u and still there!! ugh! I tried some more and finally settled on a small bubble at the top and just shot...
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144

Laura, I switched from Relion as well. I've watched the video over and over. I've gone slow. I've gone fast. I can't get them out. I've been told the pens don't cause the bubbles. We will see when my vial is past its prime. If you figure it out let me know. I feel so inept!!
 
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I'm glad things are looking better for your Mom, but we're continuing to send prayers!

When we had our senior civvie, Mario, I used to think the same thing Marje said...he was almost 18 when he crossed, and at that age, I allowed/accepted that he could have off days.

Mario had pretty significant arthritis and while we never used bupe (in hindsight, maybe we should have), he was on Adequan for almost 2 years and it was like a miracle for him. If you think Max has arthritis, it could be worth investigating.

When Trix was first diagnosed with her p-titis, I said the same thing you did to our vet: with her low/normal numbers, I doubted it was pancreatitis. Our Vetty said she has seen it go either way. Some cats drop; some cats go up. (Trix also USUALLY dives under stressful conditions.) And, of course, there is the fact that p-titis put Trix into remission. So, I wouldn't go by the numbers with regards to whether or not p-titis could be bothering him.

Hopefully the bupe will help Max feel better. These guys are just too good at hiding pain, but if he gets friskier on the bupe, then at least you have a little more info about what may be going on.

I hope you get the bubbles figured out. They are frustrating! We had problems with bubbles at first, and other than time and practice, I really don't know how we finally stopped getting them.

Have a great evening, Elise!
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144

Amy, it's not Max's BG numbers that make me think he isn't being bothered by p'itis. It's that he always becomes severely inappetent when he has a bout and other than once in a while, he is eating really well. He's gained almost 1/2 a pound. That can't be good for either diabetes or p'itis or arthritis.

Thanks for the continued prayers as we aren't out of the woods yet it seems with the coumadin issue.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144+1=258

Great news about your Mom Elise! I'm very happy to hear the good results :)

Peyton has his good days and bad days when it comes to eating. Sometimes he is more of a morning eater rather than afternoon and vice versa. His newest thing is he doesn't want to come eat his regular PM meal. He lays on the couch meowing at me and waits for me to serve him! Silly boy!

One thing I thought of with Max not eating is constipation but I see you give him miralax. Peyton also gets an 1/8th of a teaspoon per day. I started Peyton on B12 with Methylcobalamin a couple weeks ago and It seems to have made a world of difference! Is he urinating normally? Those kidney infections can sneak up on them.

Sending healing vines to our sweet Max. Hopefully he's just having a little off period and will be back to himself soon. :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144+1=258

Elise,
Yes, I received your e-mail.
Thank you so much.
I didn't know until last night that you were dealing with so much, and felt really really bad about asking for your help.

Sending more prayers for your mom.
And paws crossed arthritis medication brings sparks back in Max.
:YMHUG:
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144+1=258

Don't be silly Mariko. I offered. I hope it helps Lucy.

Julie, I'm certain Max doesn't have an infection. He is peeing as much as ever and I really watch that because he blocked when he was five and a vet pierced his bladder. I nearly lost him. I think it must be arthritis. It makes sense since he stopped getting up on his condo or even the sofa. I'll try some bupe and order cosequin and see if it helps. He's already getting the fish oil. Thanks for stopping by.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144+1=258

I'm so glad your mom is doing better. They've told my mom to not eat too many greens so not to eat them every day even if she had been :roll: :roll: crazy.

I hope Max is feeling better and eating tonight.
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144+1=258+3=176

Max's appetite returned tonight. I wonder if he will dive again in the next 3 hours :roll: He has me confused_cat
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144+1=258+3=176

{{{Elise}}}

Wow, you are really having a lot of things thrown at you at once! I'm glad that the Vitamin K helped your Mom. I was sure that was what they would do. With my DH, his INR stays pretty much the same unless he misses a dose (which he does occasionally when I am not paying attention). We have a big salad with spinach every night, but he gets pretty much the same amount of VK a day, so that is not a problem. As you mentioned, it's not how much VK you consume, it's that you stay consistent with the amount. The other drugs that they offer for A-fib and related problems have one big drawback that Coumadin does not: they have no antidote. With Coumadin, you can give VK and it will reverse the effects. Not so with the new drugs you hear advertised, so I'd advise caution to anyone considering a switch.

Cosequin is a great tool for joint issues. Sasha has a congenital deformity in her back legs that caused her a lot of pain when she was younger. We've had her on Cosequin for years, and she has had no noticeable problems since a few weeks after we started it. I buy it at Petsmart.

Sending healing vines for your DM and for Max, too. Hugs to you! :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
Re: 6/27 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89 PMPS 144+1=258+3=176

Good news on your mom tonight, that's a relief. :YMHUG:

Maybe Max is just gonna be flat blue tonight? When I got Lo last night I retested and got 155. I knew it didn't make sense for her to be Lo.
 
Re: 6/28 MAX AM+4=164+6=57+8=62+9.5=89PMP144+1=258+3=176+5=1

Tricia, I'll go to Pet Smart tomorrow. Thanks. If he switches my mom from coumadin it would only be t get her INR back up and not anything permanent. Hopefully it won't be necessary.

Wendy, I would suspect Max to stay blue tonight but better check one more time because the other night he went from blue to green after +5. He keeps me on my toes.
 
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