5/13 Kasha AMPS 501 PMPS 556

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Well, she had an absurd appetite this morning. I'm afraid to even talk about it because I'm just expecting her to vomit at any point now. Let's just say she ate well. It was kitten food, probably a little higher in carbs than some of her foods, but hey - she ate and according to the charts it's still under 10% (I don't remember the actual number). Then she ate some shredded chicken.

I thought she vomited last night when I went out for a walk, but now I'm not 100% sure. Big White Cat (civvie) isn't doing well and he vomited several times last night. I didn't know he'd eaten anything, but apparently there was (emphasis on past tense) something in his stomach. So - could have been him. Poor guy.

That's it for now.

Yesterday
 
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Oh, your poor kitties :sad: I can only send them white lights and vines to help make them feel better, and I can only add some moral support to you, Krys, and a cyber hug ((krys)).

Kasha...you really need to come on down from that nasty number there. You are not making your mama bean very happy!
 
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Good morning. I am glad to hear that she is eating ;-) Can you get a ketone test is today just to make sure it is negative? With these higher numbers we just want to make sure. Also, do you know when you might get the results of the culture from the vet? I am guessing you did not start any antibiotics because you wanted to try something new? Hang in there.......the infections can certainly bring those BG's up.
 
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Don't worry about that appetite; it's likely needed because the body is not absorbing all that it needs at the moment.

I remember when Shadoe was first dx and on insulin. She was eating like a maniac! I was like OMG where are you putting it? It's going in and has to be coming out soon somehow!
She was up to sometimes 5cans 5.5oz and she was licking the bowl clean!

Now, she is so much better and settled and will eat maybe just under 2 of those cans a day, if that. And she nibbles again, no more of that crazy GOBBLE GOBBLE GOBBLE GRUNT SNORT inhaling of foods.

If she does has issues with foods coming back up, you can always see if you can dole it out in tiny meals, even if it's every 20min, just to slow her down and give her insides a chance to catch up to her mouth!

I hope she is feeling better soon, and the gobbles settle back to normal too. Pats for BWG too; maybe just an upset stomach for him.
 
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She was negative for ketones yesterday. I can try to check today - but won't be home for about 7 or 8 hours.
 
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No problem. I must have not seen that you tested for ketones on the SS. Great!!!
 
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I try to check for ketones every day for Shadoe and Oliver as you never know what you will find. Better safe than sorry. I also neglect to add on their ss's, but it's something I do almost as often as I feed them! Maybe it could be something to put in your profile, that you test regularly or daily for ketones, then when Kasha has this really high number, you could add a note on your ss and also in your condo that you tested because it's the first thing that comes to my mind when I see a high number - check for ketones!
 
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Vet tested for ketones yesterday. I test intermittently, and only as of the last few weeks, when I catch her in the litter box.

Sooner or later I've got to get back on my normal schedule for work and my other obligations and then I will only have a few evening hours to monitor everything. I've pretty much been neglecting everything else in my life lately and that's not going to fly for very much longer.

I have to say - the situation I find myself in is so overwhelming that maybe I shouldn't have any cats at all. I can't keep track of all the things I'm supposed to be doing for everyone else anymore.
 
Re: 5/13 Kasha AMPS 501 any used d-mannose?

Just wondering if anyone has ever tried using D-Mannose as a supplement for their diabetic cats? It's a sugar, but supposedly doesn't raise BG cuz it passes thru the body. Helps prevent and cure bladder infections if they are caused by e. coli. I've used it myself when I had problems and it actually worked great for me - it's also in some cat treats I have lying around the house. I've read that some holistic vets use it to treat cats, but just wondering if anyone's tried it here...

Also - I've seen references to Fortiflora here and there in the forums. Is that that probiotic of choice for the kitties? Just wondering why that one, etc. I haven't been supplementing Kasha since her diagnosis cuz she gets irritated when I add supplements to her food. I'm going to have to figure out a way to start supplementing again I think, since I'm a big believer in probiotics... And by that, I mean I think they work, not just that they exist.
 
Re: 5/13 Kasha AMPS 501 any used d-mannose?

I've not seen anyone post about d-mannose. Personally, I don't think that what you're saying about a sugar passing through the body makes sense. Glucose is the basic nutrient that food is metabolized into and d-mannose is s steroisomer of glucose. There are places on the web that indicate it can cause a rise in BG.

The 1800PetMeds site indicated that d-mannose should be used cautiously in diabetic animals:
What special precautions are there: For animal use only. The safe use in pregnant animals or animals intended for breeding has not been proven. Consult with your veterinarian before using this product in animals with clotting disorders; being treated with anticoagulant medications; diabetes, or any metabolic disorder causing hyperglycemia; history of urinary tract stones; known allergies to shellfish. If lameness worsens, discontinue use and contact your veterinarian. Administer during or after the pet has eaten to reduce incidence of gastrointestinal upset.
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FortiFlora is a probiotic that is formulated for cats (and there's a version for dogs, too). It's by no means the only or the preferred probiotic. One advantage of FortiFlora though, is that it acts as a appetite stimulant. (My vet used to refer to it as "kitty crack" and would recommend it as a way to get a cat to eat.) I've used a heavier duty probiotic, ReNew Ultimate, as well.
 
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Sienne and Gabby said:
I've not seen anyone post about d-mannose. Personally, I don't think that what you're saying about a sugar passing through the body makes sense. Glucose is the basic nutrient that food is metabolized into and d-mannose is s steroisomer of glucose. There are places on the web that indicate it can cause a rise in BG...

FortiFlora is a probiotic that is formulated for cats (and there's a version for dogs, too). It's by no means the only or the preferred probiotic. One advantage of FortiFlora though, is that it acts as a appetite stimulant. (My vet used to refer to it as "kitty crack" and would recommend it as a way to get a cat to eat.) I've used a heavier duty probiotic, ReNew Ultimate, as well.
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Ok - Is that ReNew Ultimate a product for cats or for humans? I googled and only came up with Renew Life Ultimate Flora - is that what you've used?

I don't know how much d-mannose raises blood glucose, but there are sugars that have less of an effect on the blood glucose. Fructose, for example has a much lower glycemic index, if you buy into that idea, than table sugar (sucrose). Not that I'm going to feed Kasha fructose any time soon. I find a ton of sites online that say mannose is safe for diabetics, though. I hear not everything on the internet is true though... So hard to know for sure.
 
The Renew Ultimate is a human probiotic. Another member here recommended it. I found it in the refrigerated supplement section at Whole Foods. You use about 1/3 of a capsule mixed into food.

I agree that there's a lot of misinformation on the web. However, I think 1800PetMeds is reasonably reliable and the info is geared toward animals. I'm a bit biased about giving a med that contains any form of sugar. One of the vets in the practice I use suggested a probiotic for Gabby (pro-pectalin gel) that contains sugar. Her feeling was that sugar was a minor ingredient. My feeling was that you don't give a diabetic sugar. We're all here because we're working hard to get our kitties regulated. It's one thing if I had to give a med, like a steroid, because it was a health issue. It's another thing if I'm choosing to give a supplement that has sugar as an ingredient. But, that's me.
 
Sienne and Gabby said:
The Renew Ultimate is a human probiotic. Another member here recommended it. I found it in the refrigerated supplement section at Whole Foods. You use about 1/3 of a capsule mixed into food.
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Sienne - is it just called "Renew Ultimate"? Not Renew Life Ultimate? I'm trying to see which probiotics are in it - I may have something similar that I could give her until I can pick something up for her. But I didn't see just Renew Ultimate o line. Am I missing something or is it the same product?
 
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