So what that usually means is that you have a pancreas that is still willing to work. This is good news, Angela. And I think you might be able to use this to help lower his numbers. Since it's that amps that is always too high, maybe that feeding you were trying around +9 will lower the amps over time. Not sure if my thinking is right, but others will let me know. Maybe not just a snack at +9, but a real meal?