3.23 Frankie AMPS 298
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D and Noisy
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As a former fellow 300 and up, for long periods of time, cat caretaker -- horray on the this run of yellow. Yes, even if it is only by two points.
I read some posts from yesterday -- what I hear loud and clear is that you are fighting for Frankie -- I like that. I also liked what Libby said about considering an increase on Thursday instead of the weekend -- gives the new dose time to take effect so you can optimize your being around on the weekend.
Man, my history with learning Lantus Time was painful. I couldn't stand my Noisy in the 300s UNTIL I read about JoJo's Bunny who lived happily for many years in the 300s. Noisy was in the 400s so my new goal became the 300s. I also really related to when you said, don't remember the exact words, but something about being into the numbers cause you hoped so badly the next beep of the meter would have them go down. I remember laying on the floor and crying from my frustration with the meter report.
Anyway, enough of all that. One of the many cool things about Lantus is when you start seeing that flat curve, like you had yesterday, try to visualize it in terms of -- ok it's flat, now I'd like it to be flat in the blues, I want to take the whole range down by 100 points, keep it flat. We love flat, Lantus loves flat, flat at any number is good news to me -- cause then it is a good setup for notching it down to the next level. The bad news is for people like me, and possibly you, is we want it faster. This is where I had trouble -- it took me a minimum of three months to let go and let Lantus do its thing. I hated having to learn Lantus Time but now, looking back, I marvel at it.
Lantus is an elegant drug that used properly is a beautiful thing to behold. In other words, it rocks.
As I see it, right now Lantus is telling you that it is ready for an increase in dose to go for a notch down of BGs-- meaning you are right on time to increase while you have this flat set of numbers. Once I had the necessary respect for the drug then I jumped on -- it was like me, Noisy, Lantus teamed up to beat those numbers.
Timing with Lantus is essential, it takes a certain getting used to, I'd like to help you with that.
Frankie -- we want yellow all day, k?
I read some posts from yesterday -- what I hear loud and clear is that you are fighting for Frankie -- I like that. I also liked what Libby said about considering an increase on Thursday instead of the weekend -- gives the new dose time to take effect so you can optimize your being around on the weekend.
Man, my history with learning Lantus Time was painful. I couldn't stand my Noisy in the 300s UNTIL I read about JoJo's Bunny who lived happily for many years in the 300s. Noisy was in the 400s so my new goal became the 300s. I also really related to when you said, don't remember the exact words, but something about being into the numbers cause you hoped so badly the next beep of the meter would have them go down. I remember laying on the floor and crying from my frustration with the meter report.
Anyway, enough of all that. One of the many cool things about Lantus is when you start seeing that flat curve, like you had yesterday, try to visualize it in terms of -- ok it's flat, now I'd like it to be flat in the blues, I want to take the whole range down by 100 points, keep it flat. We love flat, Lantus loves flat, flat at any number is good news to me -- cause then it is a good setup for notching it down to the next level. The bad news is for people like me, and possibly you, is we want it faster. This is where I had trouble -- it took me a minimum of three months to let go and let Lantus do its thing. I hated having to learn Lantus Time but now, looking back, I marvel at it.
Lantus is an elegant drug that used properly is a beautiful thing to behold. In other words, it rocks.
As I see it, right now Lantus is telling you that it is ready for an increase in dose to go for a notch down of BGs-- meaning you are right on time to increase while you have this flat set of numbers. Once I had the necessary respect for the drug then I jumped on -- it was like me, Noisy, Lantus teamed up to beat those numbers.
Timing with Lantus is essential, it takes a certain getting used to, I'd like to help you with that.
Frankie -- we want yellow all day, k?
Caryl & Sebastian & Alex (GA)
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Jay said:
For me too Jay...only when I went to bed Alex was at 72! Now he's at 371!!!! Just like yesterday! "Groundhog's Day' for sure!
Frustrated? Oh yeah!!!!
Unhappy? No way! Because he had a beautiful day yesterday and maybe next month he'll have a week or 2
of those days....
and then more. And he is way harder to regulate than Frankie because he also has Hyper-t.
And I haven't really gone out in ages. (BUT the fact is that I didn't realize i could just change his schedule to fit mine).
But the question I ask NOW is how can I have a life and still stay within protocol and help Alex?
Maybe you don't word it the same way, but I THINK that's what you also mean.
All of the information that I've read, and this is perfectly honest, has stated that at first this isn't easy.
You need to have some kind of idea what's going on before you can run off and leave him alone without any worry as
you ARE starting all over again...with Lantus.
No one expects you to follow their advice 'blindly'. Everyone who gives you advice has received the same advice themselves. That advice
has come from the scientific research called "The Protocol" which seems to have worked for an awful lot of cats.
Everyone KNOWS you love Frankie and wants to help you guys. Please take this very important sentence in the spirit in which it was given, k? Everyone would love to see Frankie hang around another 5 years ...or more! :razz:
And CONGRATS! on your dosecrease. I hope you'll see the improvement you're looking for!
Caryl
D and Noisy
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Understand the nerves -- they'll go away, I promise. It's only natural to feel that way. Once you get a positive history down and can see that nothing bad happened you'll feel better which will make it easier the next time.
Jay & Frankie said:
I'm a single mom to a diabetic cat. I do think I have more flexibility with my schedule -- some days I can bolt home for a mid-day spot check. I also try to time increases for when I know I can either make those mid-day visits or the weekend. And I've certainly had the same case of nerves you describe. Would you be willing to test Libby and D's suggestion empirically? Maybe increasing the dose on Thurs. doesn't feel comfortable yet. What about changing on Friday -- either AM or PM so you do have more time on the weekend and can monitor when the dose begins to do it's work for Frankie. The next increase may be easier in terms of moving one cycle earlier depending on what the current change tells you. Maybe this way of approaching a dose change will feel more comfortable for you and allow you to develop a better sense of how Lantus is working for Frankie.
D and Noisy
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Jay mentioned he could increase Thursday PM -- (I think I read that right.)
Dyana
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Re: 3.23 Frankie AMPS 298, PMPS 429
Hey Jay. I peeked at your spreadsheet. Don't worry about the fur shot. It happens to everyone. A lot of times when we think we shot a fur shot, we actually didn't or some insulin gets in. I'm glad you didn't shoot again, just in case.
My cat J.D. is also in the 400s tonight. Ho hum :-| tomorrow's another day.
Hey Jay. I peeked at your spreadsheet. Don't worry about the fur shot. It happens to everyone. A lot of times when we think we shot a fur shot, we actually didn't or some insulin gets in. I'm glad you didn't shoot again, just in case.
My cat J.D. is also in the 400s tonight. Ho hum :-| tomorrow's another day.
Jay
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Re: 3.23 Frankie AMPS 298, PMPS 429 +3 260
I just checked him and he is coming down nicely..like 260 at +3
He walked away from his food, but went back to it after I tested. They have both gone back to sort of free feeding these days as they both know that I wont throw the food away and leave it out, even if they walk away at meal time.
Cats....arggggggggggggghhhhh....Rule
I just checked him and he is coming down nicely..like 260 at +3
He walked away from his food, but went back to it after I tested. They have both gone back to sort of free feeding these days as they both know that I wont throw the food away and leave it out, even if they walk away at meal time.
Cats....arggggggggggggghhhhh....Rule
Dyana said:
Jay
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Re: 3.23 Frankie AMPS 298, PMPS 429, 3 260
I was up at 4 AM this morning. How could I be happy setting the alarm to wake me up at 12:30 AM.
Thought I missed (fur shot) tonite too, I was wrong.
He's shedding sugar which is great.
I'm sticking with him. Going to test him in a few. I think the food he noshed on, may have slowed the drop. We shall see
I was up at 4 AM this morning. How could I be happy setting the alarm to wake me up at 12:30 AM.
Thought I missed (fur shot) tonite too, I was wrong.
He's shedding sugar which is great.
I'm sticking with him. Going to test him in a few. I think the food he noshed on, may have slowed the drop. We shall see
Dyana said:
Caryl & Sebastian & Alex (GA)
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Re: 3.23 Frankie AMPS 298, PMPS 429, 3 260
4:30...aarrgghhhh (I kinda remember doing that)ewwwwww ohmygod_smile
Jay said:
4:30...aarrgghhhh (I kinda remember doing that)ewwwwww ohmygod_smile
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