3/1 Shasta PMPS=261 +2=230 +4=173 +6=169

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Deborah & Shasta

Deborah & Shasta

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2/28 Shasta

WCR: VETTY DAY. Today has been a whirlwind of a day and I'm in need of some help/advice. Shasta has her vet appointment this morning (8am)...blood work. They have to sedate her because she is so nasty. All went fine. Blood work came back...all good except glucose was a little high (225) and her Potassium was LOW (2.6). Everything else is within range. Vet did an exam on her; checked her teeth, temperature, heart & lung sounds, and anal sac expression. :shock: Also, he wrote me a prescription for cypro, but he did not feel that the ondansatron was necessary. They gave her whatever meds to bring her out of sedation. She seemed to be coming out of it fine. We waited around until the blood work was done and then came home (9:30am). When I let her out of the carrier, she was super grouchy, but hungry. I fed her and gave her some of her Potassium supplement. She ate most all of her fuds and was walking around...seemingly normal (as normal as you can be after an anal sac expression.)

I went out to the pasture to check on my friend and her pony and when I got out there...the pony had just died. I stayed for about an hour and when I got back inside (10:45am), I noticed she was walking with very wobbly legs (like she was drunk). I called the vet back and they said that she might take another hour or so to fully come out of sedation. She was still eating and still able to walk around and jump up on the couch, so I went back out into the pasture to help clean. I got back in the house about 1:30pm and she doesn't seem much better. I feel like she's still sedated. Still wobbly, eyes dilated, growly, but still eating and she just peed in the LB. It's now 3pm and I'm not sure if I should be freaking out right now? Now I'm second guessing myself for giving her the Potassium sup. so soon after sedation. I don't know. Help! Advice?

Sending healthy vines to all our sugar kitties and their hoomins! Blessings!

~Deborah & Shasta


AMPS=198 (4% FF Chopped Grill 1oz & miralax)
+1=234
+5=185 (3% FF T&G 1oz & Cosequin, 5% FF Chunky Chicken, 12% FFEMF Chicken)
+7.75=150
+9=271

PMPS=261 (4% FF Chopped Grill 1oz, atenolol, squash)
+2=230
+4=173
+6=169 (3% FF T&G 1oz & zobaline)

Poo Pee tally
Pee piles - 3 (one tiny pile)
Poo piles - 1 (2 itty bitty nuggets)
 
Re: 3/1 Shasta AMPS=198 +1=234 +5=185 +7.75=150

Deborah

Do you know what anesthesia they gave her? If it was ketamine, it will stay in her system quite a long time as it has to work its way out through her organs. If it's isofluorane or propoful,it should long be out of her system because it's only inhaled through the lungs. As soon as they turn the gas off, the kitties start to wake up and it should not have any residual effects.

I'd call the vet and find out what they gave her and if it was one of the latter, I'd probably see if they can check her out. I honestly do not know why there would be an interaction with the potassium but it's a question to also ask the vet.

I'm so sorry about the pony. How tragic!
 
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Thank you, Marje. It's been a rough day. Of course, the vet is now closed. I was hoping they would call to check up on her before closing shop, but I guess since it's a Saturday... they have already left. On my invoice, it lists: Sedative Xylazine and Sedative Reversal Yohimbine

Shasta is super lethargic. SUPER lethargic and it seems to be getting worse.
 
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Hi Deborah - Not too sure how much help I can really be... Bur Elsa was like that after a recent being out under for a short time it took her forever to come out from the effects of the sedation. She was much like you describe Shasta. By morning she as fine. She too is a senior cat, and I think in her case she just now responds slowly to removing the effects of the sedation. I would think that is Shasta is eating and able to dot hings that maybe it is just taking her some extra time to recover. Mannie did this to me once too - His BG was much higher though and due to that, couple with the sedation, well I had a wobbly cat for a day and a half... he was having a hard time processing, and getting his metabolism up. Not too sure, but don't think the potassium would be affecting this? I do know that low potassium can cause muscle weakness, as Mannie suffered from that too.

Sending recovery vines for Shasta.
 
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Thank you, Michelle. I keep trying to tell myself that it's because she is an older girl and it's taking longer to get out of her system, but I feel like she's declining since I got her home. I don't know. This is the poopest day. I keep thinking that she'll "sleep it off", but then I get so worried about her not waking up that I keep harassing her. :sad:
 
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Hi Deborah - I can so relate to that. I was the same with Elsa the last time she was sedated,a few months back. it took forever for her to be "normal" again. It is so tough for our senior cats. Shasta may just need to sleep. I dunno. Maybe give it a few, and if things are not better, is there anyone you can call, vet wise, to see what they think? I will be thinking of you today....
 
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Do you know how to check her CRT (Capillary refill time)? It's done on the gums. You press your finger into the gum and watch to see how long it takes to go from white back to pink. It should be pretty immediate. Xylazine here
 
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I hope she comes out of it and is soon okay. :YMHUG:

I'm sorry about the pony.
 
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Michelle, my only option would be to take her to an Emergency vet clinic (45 minute drive). This was my fear...having an appointment on a Saturday, knowing they'd have to sedate her. :sad: I should have listened to my gut. I was just watching her and her little head was getting heavier and heavier and slowly started to just fall. When I tried to "wake" her...she barely stirred...so unlike her. I can see her breathing and her tail is flicking and every time it stops flicking, I touch her butt and the flicking/thumping begins again. Just making sure she's alive. nailbite_smile
 
Re: 3/1 Shasta AMPS=198 +1=234 +5=185 +7.75=150 +9=271

I'd take her in, for peace of mind.
Or call the ER and see what they say.
 
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I cannot figure out why a vet would use that anesthesia, which is more similar to ketamine than it is isofluorane. Here's what I found on the xylazine:

While sedation usually lasts from 1 to 2 hours, recovery periods in excess of 4 to 5 hours have been reported in dogs and cats.
Click to expand...

Another article said it can depress the nervous system.

I agree with Dyana; if she appears to be getting worse instead of better, I'd err on the side of caution. If she were just the same or slightly improved, I'd probably wait it out.
 
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Thank you, Kim & Dyana.

Based on the info from Wikipedia:
As with other α2 agonists, adverse effects include bradycardia, conduction disturbances, and myocardial depression. Yohimbine (Yobine), tolazoline (commercial name Tolazine), and atipamezole (commercial name Antisedan) can be used to reverse xylazine effects.

She does have a heart condition and so now I'm freaking out that her heart rate is being affected.
 
Re: 3/1 Shasta AMPS=198 +1=234 +5=185 +7.75=150 +9=271

I think I would, too.

Would you be ok with taking the 911 down now especially if you are leaving? Thank you and Please keep us updated. We want Shasta to be ok and will be worried until we know all is better.

:YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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:YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: and lots of prayers
 
Re: 3/1 Shasta AMPS=198 +1=234 +5=185 +7.75=150 +9=271

Sending tons more good ER vetty vines for Shasta from here too. :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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:YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: Lots more prayers and vines from us too!
 
Re: 3/1 Shasta AMPS=198 +1=234 +5=185 +7.75=150 +9=271

Deborah, sending prayers for Shasta. Will be watching for word that she's back home safely with you.
 
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I'm adding my prayers and well wishes for Shasta.
 
Re: 3/1 Shasta AMPS=198 +1=234 +5=185 +7.75=150 +9=271

Sending prayers for Shasta. Praying that she returns home soon.
 
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I hope everything is going ok, and am waiting to hear back like everyone else. Many vines, prayers, and hugs to both of you! :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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just saw this, semding lots more vetty vines for Shasta. I hope it is just a slow recovery.
 
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Just catching up on your condo today. Loads of prayers for a good outcome for Shasta! I'm so glad you followed your gut and took her to the ER just to be sure. We're all right here with you Deborah. :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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Deborah,

Cobb had the same reaction to anesthesia several years ago. It took him about 2 days to come out of it...he was stumbling, not eating, listing to one side. We got him home, he got out of his carrier, fell once and then stood up and walked to his food dish.

Many many prayers for you and Shasta tonight!

~Suzanne
 
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Oh my goodness. I am so sorry that I left the 911 alert up and worried everyone, but I gotta say...we appreciate the prayers and will still receive more until she is back to her usual, sassy self. THANK YOU ALL!

We drove down to the E-vet, got checked in and waited. That was when I realized how bad I had to pee AND how hungry I was. Two things I hadn't done much of in the bustle of the day. Finally, the vet tech came in to take her vitals... :lol: She asked if she could take her vitals and I said I didn't think Shasta would let her near enough. I showed her Shasta's paperwork from earlier and she said she would go relay the info to the vet who was on the phone. Vet tech came back and said that the vet felt that Shasta would be ok since she was hissing and growling and sitting up (she was lying down with her head "up"). Ummm... Eventually, she took Shasta back to the vet (on the phone) and she said she would be ok but to continue monitoring her.

We are home now. She received her PM shot and dinner and she is now sitting on my lap. She is still quite lethargic and wobbly and one heck of a sloppy eater (mostly dribbled down her chin and all over her nose). I have a feeling I will not sleep well tonight and will constantly wake up and search the house for her to make sure she's still breathing. And people wonder why i don't want children...this little cat is going to give me a heart attack...I can't imagine having children. nailbite_smile :YMSIGH:

Thank you all, again, for your love and support. You are the best people a diabetic kitty mama could ask for. Shasta sends hisses! BTW, I will post Shasta's blood work results as soon as I have enough energy to get off the couch and scan them into the computer. Her Potassium is the problem. She's down to 2.6 or something like that. nailbite_smile
 
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I'm so glad everything is ok and that she just needs time for this to wear off. I'd be sure and keep this info in my records so she doesn't get this combo again.

I'd be doing the same as you......watching like a hawk.
 
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((Deborah)), I'm so glad you BOTH are back home. Thank you for updating us worried beans nailbite_smile .
I will continue sending tons of feel-better vines to Shasta, and calming vines to you. I hope you're able to get something to eat soon, and some rest/realxing time with your girl. What a day you've had.
:YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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Thank you for updating us, Deborah. (Yes, I've been waiting too).
Lots of prayers continuing tonight.
I expect to hear tomorrow, that Shasta is back to her feisty little self and feeling good. :smile:
 
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I'm so relieved to see you are back home! It sounds like Shasta is on the mend, but our prayers continue!!
 
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Happy Shasta's home with you again Deborah! And yes, if it was me I'd be up all night checking too ;-) Sending continued vines to both you and Shasta. What a very stressful day for you :YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: cat_pet_icon cat_pet_icon cat_pet_icon
 
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I totally agree with Marje!

I had a cat that had a horrible reaction to an anesthetic too, and took 3 days to "come out of it". Shasta may be hyper-sensitive to that particular drug and you should make sure it's noted on her medical charts. There are other drugs they can use.

So happy Shasta is home and hope you have a restful night! You sure deserve it!
 
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Yeah, so glad your both home and she ate some for you. I would be worried as well tonight and watching her every move. Is it possible to have her in the room with you with her litter pan and some food and water so you don't have to search for her? Just until you think she's feeling better.
Thank you for the update and continued prayers for your baby :YMHUG: :YMHUG:
 
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I am so glad that you and Shasta are home. what a stressful day for you... we will continue to keep Shasta in our prayers. Hoping to hear that she is back to normal very soon.
 
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:YMHUG: :YMHUG: :YMHUG: Adding my prayers that Shasta comes out of it soon and is back to her normal, sassy self.
 
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Thank you for the hisses, Shasta! :-D :-D That is exactly what I wanted. :lol: :lol: Big hugs to you, Deborah. What a day.
Liz
 
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Hi Deborah - I am so glad that All will be ok With Shasta, and nothing wrong was noted while she was there. Just a slow recovery. GO SHASTA! When I had this kind of issue with Elsa, it did take her several hours... i will hope you can sleep. Hugs to you, scritches for Shasta.

and non a side note: I will hope that the vet can get her potassium levels up. It can cause so many problems down the road. I'm not too sure what meds you are giving her for that, but we used tumil-K for Mannie, and that did work rather well. His lowest lab as 3.0 i think, and we did manage to get it up to the low end of the acceptable range. I wish you much luck wit it all.

Take care, and many thanks for the update!
 
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So relieved Shasta's back home. Hope you all have a restful night.
 
Hi Deborah - I hope you are sleeping well tonight. Thanks for visiting my condo... I answered there, but thought I'd post it her as well. in reference to the potassium: "good luck with Shasta and the potassium issue. The med name I so not know, but do remember the dosage. That is what we gave Mannie too. ANd I can so udnerstand the worry over the dosage, and the ability to get in for retests,It is all tough. I was trying to remember how often I did that - maybe initially in two weeks time? once a month? one thinks one will never forget these things, but then we do... With Mannie there just was no choice, he had to be retested, as we suspected we were dealing with multiple issues, which we were, and we had to know if it (the meds) was working, which it was. There was a test they did that only checked potassium, and that was cost wise, significantly less than a full blood panel. I will post this in your condo as well, but another member sent me this link,a s she was dealing with the issue on the human level. The section on the effects on low potassium are informative. Though this was written in reference to humans, it applies to cats as well: http://hkpp.org/patients/potassium-health . Wishing you much luck! " I mixed Mannie's with food, as the pills were HUGE, and it worked best for him, We used baby food mostly.
 
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