23/2 Chico PMPS 130; 106@0.5; 106@1; 92@2; 77@3; 90@4

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  1. Marina & Chico

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  2. tiffmaxee

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    Can you monitor as long as needed? Do you have plenty of test strips and hc, mc etc? Will likely keep dropping without food but grab one more test to see.
     
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    we have test strips and hc and mc and we can monitor

    thanks, will take another measurement jsut in case
     
  4. Marina & Chico

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    would it make sense to feed him 5% instead of 2% as main meal?
     
  5. Marina & Chico

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    measured in 15 min again and it was the same value; We fed 70g of 2% and will measure again in half an hour
     
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    Feed a little higher carbs if there’s not a good food bump at +1.

    sorry I got a call and didn’t get back faster.
     
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    we measured at 0.5 and its 106
     
  8. tiffmaxee

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    Give some 10-14% and test in 30-45.
     
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    Feed just a few teaspoons to keep hungry.
     
  10. Marina & Chico

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    we gave him 12g, which is abt a teaspoon, from 20g he usually bumps 18 points up
     
  11. tiffmaxee

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    Do it again and test in 30 please.
     
  12. Marina & Chico

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    another 13%?
     
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    If there’s another drop at +2, what other % carbs do you have?
     
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    19.5
     
  16. tiffmaxee

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    Ok. Let’s see the next test.we want to keep over 90 to avoid a reduction unless he has other ideas.
     
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    we would like to keep him over 90, it is too early for a reduction
     
  18. tiffmaxee

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    Yes. I agree.
     
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    he's 92 @ 2 should we go with 19.5% or just 20g of 13%

    in the past 20g of 13% added another 18 points for abt 2 hours
     
  20. tiffmaxee

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    Are you following TR? Your ss says SLGS. With TR the reduction number is under 50.
     
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    TR, i will correct that, that was lack of knowledge
     
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    sorry for the confusion
     
  23. tiffmaxee

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    Don’t give higher carbs if following TR. Then let’s give a lc/mc mix this time.
     
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    Get a +3.
     
  25. Marina & Chico

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    10g+10g?
     
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    That’s good.
     
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    You dint want the higher carbs unless he drops close to 50. It’s early in the cycle so that’s why I suggested mc
     
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    i am fine with MC, we are new to low numbers so i prefer to keep him higher than lower

    thank you by the way for helping us
     
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    My pleasure. That early in the cycle cycle and new I would have still suggested mc. I would have said waiting an hour was fine and would have let you know 50 vs 90 but otherwise nothing would have changed.
     
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  30. Gill & George

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    Sorry I missed your thread.
    I didn't get the notification of the tag.
     
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    No worries, @tiffmaxee is guiding us thru it
     
  32. Gill & George

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    You are in good hands.

    I was looking for a thread this afternoon when I saw he had gone from black to yellow this pm. I thought you might see a blue PS, nice shooting.
    I had just got back in from walking the dogs when you posted, but had some work to do so I didn't come on the board.

    Seems like you 've managed to slow him down, nice he is back to green.
     
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    We just got a 77@3 he dropped 15 points during one hours after a mix of MC/LC
     
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    the black surprised us in the morning and his progress was as well unexpected, we weren't prepared for such a low blue preshot

    i envy your walk, we were supposed to go after the PS :D but Chico decided otherwise
     
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    Give him another mix of MC/LC , 77 is still a safe number.
    Test again in an hour.
     
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  36. Gill & George

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    I had to change plans due to George and his BG,:rolleyes:
     
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    He spent over 24 hours in low yellow and blue. I thought that maybe had triggered a bounce last night.

    But tonight is also 6 cycles from the greens, perhaps even though he gave you those nice blue cycles he hadn't quite cleared the bounce completely and tonight is the definite bounce clearing cycle.

    It's not the first time he has thrown you a high number followed by 'surprise' drop in the following cycle.

    He is wearing his coat of many colours today.
     
  38. Marina & Chico

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    Just when we though we understood the bounces...

    yeah, that he likes: surprising us with values :D
     
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    and no matter how many times i tell myself not to react to single values, the blacks and the reds are getting me disappointed

    but overall, we can clearly see he spends much less time in black and reds compared to caninsulin, maybe time helps as well but lantus is clearly more suitable for him. caninsulin had one advantage: the cycles we very easy to read: active cycle, bounce cycle, no connection between them : D
     
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    he increased to 90 @4; can i feed 10g of 2%? the increase might be because of all the MC, right?
     
  41. Gill & George

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    If he usually gets a snack now feed him his regular snack of LC.
    Or if he doesn't usually, give him 1 TSP of LC to see if he will stay flat and surf for you


    He had the MC at +.5, I think that will have worn off by now.

    The rest of the time you gave a mix so it's more like higher LC so you don't need to worry about that.
     
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    He usually gets a snack at this time, i can give him the 10g LC cause i need to give the probiotic with it.
    Can i check again in 1 hour or better in half?
     
  43. Gill & George

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    Ok in 1 hour.
    Yep give him his regular LC and his probiotic.
    I hope his poo is better tomorrow
     
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    I hope too, today we intensified boulardi and tomorrow we will go to a new vet just to make more checkups, hopefully just as precaution
     
  45. Gill & George

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    What are you planning on getting checked out?
     
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    B12, and endocrinology, from what i understand all from blood
     
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    Fingers crossed there's no problems.
    I'm going to catch some sleep now.
     
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    Good night, i still have to follow. Should i plan for any MC or not anymore?
     
  49. Marina & Chico

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    Thank you both @tiffmaxee and @Gill & George for helping us out yesterday, Chico managed it very well and we are grateful it was a safe and nice cycle :bighug::bighug:
     
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  50. tiffmaxee

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    Your welcome. Last night you could have stopped testing at +5 or 6 because he was flat. I am sorry to didn’t come back and tell you to go to sleep. A good rule of thumb when flat green try going two hours without food and if still above 60ish you are safe. I hope you can catch a nap today. Nice blues so far today as well. :)
     
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    LOL we probably would have stayed up anyway ))) but in the middle of the night we switched with my husband, he slept for the first part and then took over so it wasn't that bad :)

    but we will keep this information in mind for next time :)
     
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  52. tiffmaxee

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    It’s scary until you know how he does with numbers under 100. I’m glad you both test. I had to do it alone. He’s looking good. Good job you two.
     
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  53. Gill & George

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    Great start this morning too!
     
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    honestly when we shot at 130 yesterday we were terrified if we did right or not, we are really not used to flat cycles so thanks for giving us the confidence to do it :)

    testing alone: you are my hero and so are all the other people that do that. in the beginning it took the 2 of us to hold him for tests, i can't imagine doing it alone when he was scratching and being upset...
     
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    :) i will be impressed if he won't bounce, last cycle was too good for him not to rebel :D
     
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    I was lucky that Max was easy going and gentle. The only time he wasn’t was when caged.
     
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  57. Gill & George

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    He probably will bounce at some point. But with that +1 this morning, he looks like he won't be bouncing just yet.
    Good shooting this morning.
     
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