2. Java, elder cat

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Thanks for saying that. I feel pretty bad about it. I suspected he'd go low.

I'm glad the meter can talk to me. Anytime he seems off, or I'm worried, I like that I can do a quick blood test and have info ASAP. He seemed fine when I got home, then I found out he was 44. I grabbed, tested the minute I walked in. I thought he might be off yesterday, then his bg was good, so I could eliminate speculation on that. I still wish he could talk though!
 
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It seems to me that ringers rather than the insulin brought Java to a 326 pmps. I'm thinking either one or a fat one. Anyone?
 
Hey Lois, I'm not usually up right now but Maury gave me an exciting green early in his PM cycle. I think fat 1 will be OK. Are you going to monitor as usual?
 
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Hey Lois, I'm not usually up right now but Maury gave me an exciting green early in his PM cycle. I think fat 1 will be OK. Are you going to monitor as usual?
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Yes, up for +2, and +3.5or 4 before bed. I've been setting an alarm for 2-3 am lately. Then another for 5:30 am food pickup.

That's a good green, yes? How do you put a note behind the cell?
 
Lily has had a couple of sneezes over the weekend. Now Java is sneezing every now and then. Trees and flowers are in bloom (see photo, taken 4/2), and cars are drenched with yellow oak pollen. Hoping it's just pollen irritation, not an upper respiratory infection. I actually don't know what you do for a feline upper respiratory infection. Google time.
Sounds like it could be pollen. Something to watch.
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/why-cats-sneeze
 
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When I try to look at Chuck or Teasel's SSs, I can only see part of a page, then everything locks up, and I have to cancel out of FDMB and Chrome entirely, then come back. But I don't have that issue with other SSs like Maury or Sam's. Don't know why. Ideas?
 
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Please excuse me, I'm up anyway. I wonder if anyone more expert would have time to take a look. Java's SS isn't that bad on the nightime side, it's more magenta and yellow with some blues and the occasional green. But the datetime side has lots of black and red. I wonder why they are so different?
Why is the day worse? Is it that the day time is showing bouncy high #s from the lower numbers overnight?? Or that I'm in and out during day, not always checking him and getting him to eat?

If he's on the low side for him tomorrow am, around 300, should I go less than a fat 1?
 
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Lily has had a couple of sneezes over the weekend. Now Java is sneezing every now and then. Trees and flowers are in bloom (see photo, taken 4/2), and cars are drenched with yellow oak pollen. Hoping it's just pollen irritation, not an upper respiratory infection. I actually don't know what you do for a feline upper respiratory infection. Google time.
Sounds like it could be pollen. Something to watch.
http://www.m.webmd.com/a-to-z-guides/why-cats-sneeze
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For allergies, some find 1/4 a 10mg Zyrtec helps. Not sure about using with CKD cat.

I am having trouble seeing some SS's too. Not sure why...
 
You do get pretty good numbers during the day, too, Lois. I know there's still red and black, but you get blues and greens sometimes too.

You might see more pink at night and red during the day due to activity levels or something like that...is your feeding schedule the same at night? Any significant changes to routine at night?
 
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Please excuse me, I'm up anyway. I wonder if anyone more expert would have time to take a look. Java's SS isn't that bad on the nightime side, it's more magenta and yellow with some blues and the occasional green. But the datetime side has lots of black and red. I wonder why they are so different?
Why is the day worse? Is it that the day time is showing bouncy high #s from the lower numbers overnight?? Or that I'm in and out during day, not always checking him and getting him to eat?

If he's on the low side for him tomorrow am, around 300, should I go less than a fat 1?
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Overall his numbers are quite good, Lois, given his senior issues, etc. He's probably doing daytime bouncing from going lower at night - some of the time. Saturday was the exception.

I can't help you with the SS freezing - not very techie. Love your new avatar photo. Very pretty! :)
 
Wishful thinking, that it's be low this am. Darn it. 541. So, 1.75 I think. And gronk for staying up until 3 am.
Diffs between am and pm....When brain has more sleep. Food for cat now.
 
Maury has seasonal allergies, more so with Spring than Fall, only since we moved to where I am now. I try to give him 1/4 tablet Benadryl but he really doesn't like the taste. Think it's a 25mg pill. Sometimes I don't get the chaser fast enough and he ends up looking like a rabid kitty with pink foam at the mouth o_O
 
Gonna try for more sleep, class not till 10:30 today.

Lily's a nervous, anxious cat. She's started chewing, eating the fur on her belly and hind legs, and now yakking up huge hair tubes on the furniture, which, naturally, has cat towels on it, hooray. (I now think people's furniture without slipcovers and cat towels looks funny). It may be time for the vet. I feel like I need a better vet, however much I like Dave. More sleep first. anyone have a cat on, say, prozac?
 
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Gonna try for more sleep, class not till 10:30 today.

Lily's a nervous, anxious cat. She's started chewing, eating the fur on her belly and hind legs, and now yakking up huge hair tubes on the furniture, which, naturally, has cat towels on it, hooray. (I now think people's furniture without slipcovers and cat towels looks funny). It may be time for the vet. I feel like I need a better vet, however much I like Dave. More sleep first. anyone have a cat on, say, prozac?
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My mom's cat has been on prozac a long time because he's a fur puller. It helps quite a bit.
 
Thank you!

Edit to save room, I've started to read about Lantus, and there's information over there about diabetes in general that isn't in the FAQ, etc, that I haven't found in other places. Interesting stuff. And I found someone really good descriptions about bouncing written I think by steph? In another thread, for someone who was a teacher. Repetition is how you learn, how I learn, I think I'm finally getting it on this bouncing business and reading spreadsheet business. Now I understand why Kris kept saying just keep going, you need more data.
 
I have amitriptyline for Elektra's cystitis. She's only taken it a few times as she absolutely refuses it usually...and one time I got it in her via pill pocket, but she bit it in half, found the pill, then threw up. Sigh.

But it makes her awfully sleepy when she does get it in her.
 
Java normally turns into a cougar when I try to get a pill into him. He's been accepting the Zobaline in a pill pocket, which is awesome. I used a piller on him once, and it wasn't too bad. The honest truth is, he's lost so much weight and is so debilitated from that, it's easier to overpower him on the subject of pills.
I'm so grateful and lucky that he is and has been so relaxed and calm for every ear stick and every injection, including Sub-Q fluids, which is typical. It's only pills that he fights. I'm going to have to figure out the gel caps for Jarrow's B Right.
 
I wish I could give him Max cat kibble soaked in butter. Losing so much weight.

The biggest difference between day and night is that he's on the bed at night, and I go in every 30 minutes and put food under his nose, and he'll eat a little bit.

Yet, he's so happy to go outside during the day and sleep on the deck or in one of his favorite places.

I can't tell if he's good for a longer haul, or if we're close to the end. I'm so envious of people whose SS is just blue and yellow.
 
I fed him 45 mins before normal test time, not registering the 2 hr no-food zone.
He's running high, was 504 at +8, that was 3 hrs ago. He's looking for food.
I'd be testing, then feeding in 15 mins. Go ahead?
 
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I fed him 45 mins before normal test time, not registering the 2 hr no-food zone.
He's running high, was 504 at +8, that was 3 hrs ago. He's looking for food.
I'd be testing, then feeding in 15 mins. Go ahead?
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Bouncing today, Lois. The fat 1 u got him down last night but you increased this AM because of a bounce inflated PS. Maybe drop to 1.5 u or 1.25 u in case he has the same plan for tonight?
 
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Bouncing today, Lois. The fat 1 u got him down last night but you increased this AM because of a bounce inflated PS. Maybe drop to 1.5 u or 1.25 u in case he has the same plan for tonight?
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Is he bouncing from the low last night, or from the low Sat. morning? I did Fat 1u because he went low with Feb am magenta ps and I thought it was safer.
I hadn't thought about his dose now yet, I was just wondering about testing and feeding him. I feel confused and worried and like my brain doesn't work. If I go with 1.25 or 1.5 tonight, oh no, super low numbers in the middle of the night again?
I'm going to test him now.
 
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Bouncing today, Lois. The fat 1 u got him down last night but you increased this AM because of a bounce inflated PS. Maybe drop to 1.5 u or 1.25 u in case he has the same plan for tonight?
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Please help me understand the rationale for 1.5 or 1.25. I feel so stupid right now, I can't think.
 
A slightly higher dose tonight will help level things out tomorrow morning?
Edits. 717 left ear. 649 right ear.
Got it, I'd normally be doing 1.75, and what you are saying is that either 1.25 or 1.5 gives a greater margin of safety in case he goes low again tonight.
Honestly I'm not joking I just could not think for a minute there. If a vet saw this cat right now, he'd say it's time put him to sleep.
 
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A slightly higher dose tonight will help level things out tomorrow morning?
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Please help me understand the rationale for 1.5 or 1.25. I feel so stupid right now, I can't think.
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I was suggesting a lower dose than you gave this AM in case he decides to drop more overnight. Bounces are crazy making but it's best to avoid choosing a dose based on a bounce number. Look for the lowest that a dose gave you to see what it can do and base your decision more on that. If he stays high and flat cycle after cycle then you can boost the dose.
 
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Bounces are crazy making but it's best to avoid choosing a dose based on a bounce number. Look for the lowest that a dose gave you to see what it can do and base your decision more on that. If he stays high and flat cycle after cycle then you can boost the dose.
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Okay. I'm really embarrassed that I didn't think about a dose for him at this time.
Edit, I assume I'm looking for 1.25 and 1.5 linked with a black PS.
It looks like historically 1.5 has been okay with something high like this. I want to get insulin in him and yes I know how to deal with a high.
 
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Okay. I'm really embarrassed that I didn't think about a dose for him at this time.
Edit, I assume I'm looking for 1.25 and 1.5 linked with a black PS.
It looks like historically 1.5 has been okay with something high like this. I want to get insulin in him and yes I know how to deal with a high.
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And you know how to deal with a low. :)
 
I'm just crying over here. Thank God for the kindness of strangers. Java's highs and lows are taking a big toll on him, Lily's chewing her fur off and gaining weight eating food that Java isn't eating, and I'm losing my mind.
 
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I'm just crying over here. Thank God for the kindness of strangers. Java's highs and lows are taking a big toll on him, Lily's chewing her fur off and gaining weight eating food that Java isn't eating, and I'm losing my mind.
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Oh no, Lois! We all have these episodes of thinking it's all too much. Treating FD is really hard and Lily's fur pulling isn't helping. It's a lot to deal with. We can only do our best and hope that we get a decent result at least some of the time.
 
Oh Lois, I'm crying with you now. Sending you all kinds of love tonight. You're such a wonderful kitty mommy! I hope you are able to get some rest tonight and know that you and your kitties are loved by all of us here!
 
He's gone down about 300 pts in 2 hrs. and is a different cat. I carried him to the table to test him, but then he sat and enjoyed looking outside for awhile. (A yellow cat named Scotty lives across the street and comes out at night to watch my house. From my window, Lily and he sit and watch each other. Java's been keeping his eye on him for years also. I adore Scotty and it's mutual, sometimes I go out to see him.)
He could barely keep his head up at 700.
 
Lois, I prescribe a good glass of wine for you! You've given so much to Lily and Java, and sometimes it just is too much. You need a relaxing evening with a good meal, some wine, and then a good night's sleep soon to help you reset.
 
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