2/17Max AMPS259+7=49+7.5=72+8.5=80+11.5 =148 +2=272+4.5=279
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Dyana
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Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+3:45=127 +7=49???
R is a very potent insulin that brings BGs down fast. You would only want to use it if you have someone with lots of experience to guide you.
Time to come up, Max. I would test again in 30 minutes. It's late in the cycle so the insulin should be starting to peter out. Hopefully Max will come up to a shootable number. You don't really want him eating after +10 (unless he's below 50), so feed him know. Just little meals. Hopefully, he'll come up into the 70s to 90s and surf.
R is a very potent insulin that brings BGs down fast. You would only want to use it if you have someone with lots of experience to guide you.
Time to come up, Max. I would test again in 30 minutes. It's late in the cycle so the insulin should be starting to peter out. Hopefully Max will come up to a shootable number. You don't really want him eating after +10 (unless he's below 50), so feed him know. Just little meals. Hopefully, he'll come up into the 70s to 90s and surf.
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+3:45=127 +7=49???
Nice catch on the 49! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Looks like Max wants to go back to 1.25U.
Nice catch on the 49! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: Looks like Max wants to go back to 1.25U.
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+3:45=127 +7=49???
Normally you would go to 1.25U for tonight's dose, unless Max decides he wants to bounce to the moon. If that happens, then you can do a one time shot of the old 1.5U dose tonight and start the 1.25U dose tomorrow morning. We call that "shooting through the bounce". If you are unsure which you want to do, take a test around +11.5 and post for help.
Normally you would go to 1.25U for tonight's dose, unless Max decides he wants to bounce to the moon. If that happens, then you can do a one time shot of the old 1.5U dose tonight and start the 1.25U dose tomorrow morning. We call that "shooting through the bounce". If you are unsure which you want to do, take a test around +11.5 and post for help.
tiffmaxee
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Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+3:45=127 +7=49+7 1/2=72
Thanks. I definitely will post before I shoot. In the meantime, should I be testing again in an hour and if he is going up wait for the 11 1/2?
As usual, I'm confused. He was 259 this morning and now he drops to his lowest observed number ever. If his numbers rise again do we then try to go back to 1.5 after 3-5 days? Do many cats go up and down like that? I am starting to find the both fascinating and crazy making at the same time.
Thanks. I definitely will post before I shoot. In the meantime, should I be testing again in an hour and if he is going up wait for the 11 1/2?
As usual, I'm confused. He was 259 this morning and now he drops to his lowest observed number ever. If his numbers rise again do we then try to go back to 1.5 after 3-5 days? Do many cats go up and down like that? I am starting to find the both fascinating and crazy making at the same time.
tiffmaxee
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Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+3:45=127 +7=49+7 1/2=72 +8=80// ?
Max's +8 1/2 is 80. I'm running out of room in the subject line so here is a recap of our day yesterday and today.
Yesterday: AMPS 151
+4=127
+6=91 +7=73
+8=109
PMPS 150 +4=212
TODAY AMPS 259
+4=127
+7 =49
+7 1/2=62
+8 1/2=80
I fed him some lc fancy feast after each low reading and he ate it.
Max's +8 1/2 is 80. I'm running out of room in the subject line so here is a recap of our day yesterday and today.
Yesterday: AMPS 151
+4=127
+6=91 +7=73
+8=109
PMPS 150 +4=212
TODAY AMPS 259
+4=127
+7 =49
+7 1/2=62
+8 1/2=80
I fed him some lc fancy feast after each low reading and he ate it.
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+3:45=127 +7=49+7 1/2=72 +81/2=80??
You can always remove some of the earlier, less interesting numbers (like the +4) from the subject line to give you more room. And 7.5 takes up less room that 7 1/2.
Looks like Max is cruising in some nice numbers now. :mrgreen:
You can always remove some of the earlier, less interesting numbers (like the +4) from the subject line to give you more room. And 7.5 takes up less room that 7 1/2.
Looks like Max is cruising in some nice numbers now. :mrgreen:
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+7=49+7.5=72+8.5=80+11.5 =148DOSE ADVICE
I would go with his new 1.25U dose. This isn't a bounce. I think I'd get a +2 and decide from there what testing you need to do. Sometimes the depot from the old (higher) dose can hang around a bit and give lower number for a cycle or two. Or he could still bounce. :roll:
I would go with his new 1.25U dose. This isn't a bounce.
I think I'd get a +2 and decide from there what testing you need to do. Sometimes the depot from the old (higher) dose can hang around a bit and give lower number for a cycle or two. Or he could still bounce. :roll:
tiffmaxee
Member Since 2013
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+7=49+7.5=72+8.5=80+11.5 =148DOSE ADVICE
Thanks, Wendy. I will be quite surprised if he goes down at +2 but that means he might. I just looked at Neko's profile and see that you feed lots of small meals too. Max is due for his next meal now. I think that is why I suspect his BG doesn't usually go down quickly. Tonight I hope I am right for once! Oh, why did you switch insulin types?
Thanks, Wendy. I will be quite surprised if he goes down at +2 but that means he might. I just looked at Neko's profile and see that you feed lots of small meals too. Max is due for his next meal now. I think that is why I suspect his BG doesn't usually go down quickly. Tonight I hope I am right for once! Oh, why did you switch insulin types?
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+7=49+7.5=72+8.5=80+11.5 =148DOSE ADVICE
I probably should switch when Neko get's her meals as it's Lantus focussed, but she has a fine sense of entitlement to food and she rules the roost on that one. :lol:
Last year Neko was only going low and getting her reductions at night. After 8 months of that, it was getting very old and I was trying everything I could to change that pattern. I ran out of Lantus so decided to give Lev a try. It didn't change when she went low :roll: (today is an exception) and Lev does give her flatter cycles. I'm finding the later nadir hard to handle but her numbers are better.
I probably should switch when Neko get's her meals as it's Lantus focussed, but she has a fine sense of entitlement to food and she rules the roost on that one. :lol:
Last year Neko was only going low and getting her reductions at night. After 8 months of that, it was getting very old and I was trying everything I could to change that pattern. I ran out of Lantus so decided to give Lev a try. It didn't change when she went low :roll: (today is an exception) and Lev does give her flatter cycles. I'm finding the later nadir hard to handle but her numbers are better.
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+7=49+7.5=72+8.5=80+11.5 =148 +2=272
I'd get a before bed test, but it looks like that bounce is starting so early night for you. I-)
Wait for the bounce to clear before evaluating how the dose is doing. From the protocol:
I'd get a before bed test, but it looks like that bounce is starting so early night for you. I-)
Wait for the bounce to clear before evaluating how the dose is doing. From the protocol:
Re: 2/17Max AMPS259+7=49+7.5=72+8.5=80+11.5 =148 +2=272
Elise
When you reduce there are no set number of cycles to hold the dose. As Wendy said, you want him to clear the bounce which could take up to six cycles. But if he clears it in two and stays high, then you might want to increase the dose. So let's play it by ear and see how long it takes him to clear and where he ends up. This post on NDW and Failed Reductions might help.
Elise
When you reduce there are no set number of cycles to hold the dose. As Wendy said, you want him to clear the bounce which could take up to six cycles. But if he clears it in two and stays high, then you might want to increase the dose. So let's play it by ear and see how long it takes him to clear and where he ends up. This post on NDW and Failed Reductions might help.
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