11/12 J.D. PMPS 441 - Pain Meds Question

[Dyana]

Yesterday's Condo

Sorry, I'm late making a condo :roll: I ran out of time this morning.
J.D. wasn't feeling all that great last night after he threw up and was still not feeling that great this morning, so I came home mid-day (thank you boss!) to check on him.

I called my regular vet and told her about how J.D. threw up his food last night and I asked if we can stop the ABs and she said yes. I also put a call into his IM vet. I asked both of them if they were concerned about his TCO2 being 25 (range is 12 - 22) and both of them said no. They also both think he does not have an infection, so out with the ABs. J.D. seemed to feel better when I got home late from work and was walking around (he was not walking much and just not moving much yesterday and this morning (,since starting that Baytril).
J.D. went for a long walk tonight, and kept trying to poo, but he pooed a medium sized poo today, and has been needing to poo. He made one small one tonight.

Since Buprenex can make him constipated, and slow down his GI tract, and cause his respiratory and heart rate to slow, I was wondering if I should try another kind of pain med. I asked the Internal Medicine Vet when she called and she mentioned Tramodal? She said it is still an opiod, but they don't seem to get addicted and it can slow the GI tract but is not known for slowing the respiratory and heart rate...maybe I got that wrong...it is bed time, and I am tired from everything. I just got off the phone with the "soul-mate" of the friend I have that just passed away.

Can anyone let me know what they think of Tramodal or any other pain meds besides buprenex?

I've been giving J.D. 0.06ml Buprenorphine BID mostly on the days I go to work. One of the things I like about it is that I can fine tune that and give him 0.04ml TID on days that I am home (on weekends). The IM Vet said that Tramodal comes in a tiny pill and some people give it once a day and some people give it twice a day, so it would not be as fine-tunable.
I've been giving Bupe to J.D. for his pancreatits, but I always say to him when I give it "this if for any pain you have" and it probably also helps his spinal arthritis.

I decided I better look at my vacation days I have left, since it doesn't look like we will be going to California this year and that there is only one and one half months left to this year and it looked like I can take every other week off for the rest of the year, but my boss said that I can hold over five vacation days to the first quarter of next year if I want.
I wish we could go to California and see my Dad, but I just need J.D. to be more stable.

That's my report for today. Off to bed for us..

 

[Wendy&Neko]

Neko's vet said her order of preference for pain meds is bupe, then gabapentin, then tramadol. As does her acupuncture vetty. Some cats have side effects to tramadol that make them loopy. But from what I've seen with cats here, the pain med that's best is the one that works for them. ECID.

I'm glad you can stop the ABs.

 

[Marilyn and Sheldon]

Glad J.D. seems better today. And glad he can come off the a/b. Those can cause havoc sometimes with a cat's gut and general feeling.

No advice on pain meds. The sanctuary where I work uses bupe as a first line pain relief, though, with cats. Don't think they use anything else. I used Tramadol with my dog a few years ago; it really made him agitated. Guess it can do that with some dogs. Don't know about cats.

But, as always, vines and more vines for you and your precious kitty-man.

Marilyn and Polly

 

[tiffmaxee]

I "think" that is what I gave Tiffany once and she nearly fell asleep with her head in her bowl. It made her very loopy. But of course ECID. I've heard it works better for dogs but I think some on the FPS have used it. I'm glad they think there isn't an infection. So the high numbers on the BW are from inflammation?

 

[Anne & Zener GA]

Bupe sure did a number on Zener's GI system, complicated by the FD and IBD. We would give him 1/8t Miralax twice a day to keep his poo soft and that helped him from getting so constipated. We only gave him a tiny amount of the Bupe, his system was very sensitive to it, and just a bit did the trick.

Anne