Alex&Richard
Member Since 2026
08.03 initial post in Lantus board
Hi,
Intro
About Ricard: 10.5 year, Male, European Burmese, 5.7 kg, has ketones in blood. Richard was diagnosed ~month ago with DKA and diabetes, spent few weeks at a hospital and we are still struggling to get him regulated. I've originally posted in Lantus board and they've suggested to start here with settings things up and general questions.
I'm using both CGM (Dexcom one+, terrible at high, but quite precise below 200) and human meter for manual checks. Also checking blood for ketones daily.
Setting up
I've created a spreadsheet & signature already and would be grateful for any advice on improving them.
Food question
I'd also would like to ask for help with understanding the carbohydrates percentage for the food we are using (we are from Europe, so US charts might not be suitable). We are feeding Royal Canine wet (diabetic & jelly) at the moment . Here are stats from official website (stats on the actual pouches we have are slightly off, but not more than ~0.5% in total. +0.1% here, -0.1% there, so mostly same):
Royal Canine Diabetic
Analytical constituents: Protein: 8.9% - Fat content: 3.2% - Crude ash: 1.7% - Crude fibres: 1.1% - Moisture: 82.5% - Essential fatty acids: 0.54% - Total sugars: 1.3% - Starch: 1.2% - source of carbohydrates: modified corn starch - rice.
Composition: Poultry by-products, pork by-products, pork blood products, modified maize starch, hydrolysed pork gelatin, powdered cellulose, minerals, fish oil, marigold extract (source of lutein).
Does it it mean 2.5% carb (sugar + scratch)?
Calc gives 2.6% as-fed and 13.5% ME, so I assume this is not really good low-carb?
Royal Canine Instinctive Jelly
Analytical constituents: Protein: 11.8% - Fat content: 4.5% - Crude ash: 1.5% - Crude fibres: 0.8% - Moisture: 80.0%.
Composition: meat and animal derivatives, vegetable protein extracts, derivatives of vegetable origin, oils and fats, minerals, various sugars.
Calc gives 1.4% as-fed and 6% ME. So is it better than diabetic carbs vise? Various sugars sounds fishy.
Royal canine Sterilized Jelly
Analytical constituents: Protein: 9.0% - Fat content: 2.6% - Crude ash: 1.4% - Crude fibres: 1.6% - Moisture: 81.0%.
Composition: meat and animal derivatives, cereals, derivatives of vegetable origin, vegetable protein extracts, minerals, various sugars.
Calc gives 4.4% as-fed and 22% ME. It is high carb and should be avoided, right?
Is any of the above options suitable for diabetic cat? Richard completely ignore anything pate-like, so slices are the only option, and there is not much food here offered in slices. He don't mind boiled chicken or beef though, so meat chunks is also an option, but I'm not sure we are ready for raw/homemade food. Looks like most of the commercial food we have here is more than 10% carbs.
I can try to buy & feed something like this (they all seems similar, chicken + 5% something):
Canagan chicken wtih duck in broth
Analytical constituents: Crude Protein 16.5%, Crude Fat 3%, Crude Fibre 0.5%, Crude Ash 2%, Moisture 77%.
Composition: Chicken Breast (58%), Chicken Broth (31%), Duck (5%), Sunflower Oil, Thickening Agent (Tapioca) and Minerals.
Calc gives 1.0% as-fed, 4% ME. Is protein content too high in such case? Does it look like a proper diet?
Has anyone had used (successfully
) low carb options from any of the below brands and can recommend it (no pate, just slices or meat chunks)?:
Aatas, Advance, Amanova, Animonda, Applaws, Benek, Bewi Cat, Bozita, Brit, Butcher's, Calibra, Canagan, Carnilove, Club 4 Paws, Comfy, Delickcious, Dr petcare, Encore, Eukanuba, Farmina, GimCat, Gussto, Hill's, Iams, Inaba Josera, Katido, Kattovit, Kimo, Leonardo, Life, Mac's, Market, Miamor, Monge, My Love, Natua, Oasy, Optimeal, Perfect fit, Piper, Pramy, Raw paleo, Royal Canin, Royal Canin VD, Specifinis, Trovet, VetExpert, Virbac, Vitakraft, Whiskas, Woolf
I'd be VERY happy for any advice/recommendation regarding food selection.
With best regards,
Alex
Hi,
Intro
About Ricard: 10.5 year, Male, European Burmese, 5.7 kg, has ketones in blood. Richard was diagnosed ~month ago with DKA and diabetes, spent few weeks at a hospital and we are still struggling to get him regulated. I've originally posted in Lantus board and they've suggested to start here with settings things up and general questions.
I'm using both CGM (Dexcom one+, terrible at high, but quite precise below 200) and human meter for manual checks. Also checking blood for ketones daily.
Setting up
I've created a spreadsheet & signature already and would be grateful for any advice on improving them.
Food question
I'd also would like to ask for help with understanding the carbohydrates percentage for the food we are using (we are from Europe, so US charts might not be suitable). We are feeding Royal Canine wet (diabetic & jelly) at the moment . Here are stats from official website (stats on the actual pouches we have are slightly off, but not more than ~0.5% in total. +0.1% here, -0.1% there, so mostly same):
Royal Canine Diabetic
Analytical constituents: Protein: 8.9% - Fat content: 3.2% - Crude ash: 1.7% - Crude fibres: 1.1% - Moisture: 82.5% - Essential fatty acids: 0.54% - Total sugars: 1.3% - Starch: 1.2% - source of carbohydrates: modified corn starch - rice.
Composition: Poultry by-products, pork by-products, pork blood products, modified maize starch, hydrolysed pork gelatin, powdered cellulose, minerals, fish oil, marigold extract (source of lutein).
Does it it mean 2.5% carb (sugar + scratch)?
Calc gives 2.6% as-fed and 13.5% ME, so I assume this is not really good low-carb?
Royal Canine Instinctive Jelly
Analytical constituents: Protein: 11.8% - Fat content: 4.5% - Crude ash: 1.5% - Crude fibres: 0.8% - Moisture: 80.0%.
Composition: meat and animal derivatives, vegetable protein extracts, derivatives of vegetable origin, oils and fats, minerals, various sugars.
Calc gives 1.4% as-fed and 6% ME. So is it better than diabetic carbs vise? Various sugars sounds fishy.
Royal canine Sterilized Jelly
Analytical constituents: Protein: 9.0% - Fat content: 2.6% - Crude ash: 1.4% - Crude fibres: 1.6% - Moisture: 81.0%.
Composition: meat and animal derivatives, cereals, derivatives of vegetable origin, vegetable protein extracts, minerals, various sugars.
Calc gives 4.4% as-fed and 22% ME. It is high carb and should be avoided, right?
Is any of the above options suitable for diabetic cat? Richard completely ignore anything pate-like, so slices are the only option, and there is not much food here offered in slices. He don't mind boiled chicken or beef though, so meat chunks is also an option, but I'm not sure we are ready for raw/homemade food. Looks like most of the commercial food we have here is more than 10% carbs.
I can try to buy & feed something like this (they all seems similar, chicken + 5% something):
Canagan chicken wtih duck in broth
Analytical constituents: Crude Protein 16.5%, Crude Fat 3%, Crude Fibre 0.5%, Crude Ash 2%, Moisture 77%.
Composition: Chicken Breast (58%), Chicken Broth (31%), Duck (5%), Sunflower Oil, Thickening Agent (Tapioca) and Minerals.
Calc gives 1.0% as-fed, 4% ME. Is protein content too high in such case? Does it look like a proper diet?
Has anyone had used (successfully
) low carb options from any of the below brands and can recommend it (no pate, just slices or meat chunks)?:Aatas, Advance, Amanova, Animonda, Applaws, Benek, Bewi Cat, Bozita, Brit, Butcher's, Calibra, Canagan, Carnilove, Club 4 Paws, Comfy, Delickcious, Dr petcare, Encore, Eukanuba, Farmina, GimCat, Gussto, Hill's, Iams, Inaba Josera, Katido, Kattovit, Kimo, Leonardo, Life, Mac's, Market, Miamor, Monge, My Love, Natua, Oasy, Optimeal, Perfect fit, Piper, Pramy, Raw paleo, Royal Canin, Royal Canin VD, Specifinis, Trovet, VetExpert, Virbac, Vitakraft, Whiskas, Woolf
I'd be VERY happy for any advice/recommendation regarding food selection.
With best regards,
Alex
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