11/12 Ivy Amps 164, +3 85, +5.5 59, +10 85, Pmps 80, +3 158 Libre

Staci & Ivy

Staci & Ivy

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11/11/24
Amps 164 Libre

Yesterday was really lovely, a quite flat blue and green day on the Libre.
I lowered her dose last night to 2.75 units and then this morning took her up to 2.75 Fat dose.

I’m tinkering to try to dial in on just the right dose.
I’d like to not have to be feeding higher carbs, which I have been doing since all this recent lower BG‘s situation has been going on.

I did hear back from the vet last night after I had sent him an email on Sunday trying to see if he had an opinion on what’s going on with her and wanted to make him aware of what’s going on.
He told me he thinks I’m very “dialed in” to every little nuance of Ivy’s situation. (He’s just learning about who I am and how obsessed I am with my cat). I mean, don’t we have to be???;)
He did comment that the practice doesn’t see many cats that have both diabetes and hyperthyroid :bookworm:
That seems so odd to me because it doesn’t appear uncommon from everything that I’ve read over the past seven months.
Other than that, he just said that we will have to see what the lab work shows next week.

He does think it’s obviously a good idea for me to reduce her dose as needed to keep her safe and he thinks it’s great that I have the Libre on her so that I know exactly what’s happening.
He’s a big proponent of using a Libre and he uses one for a dog of his own.

He did say that Ivy‘s situation seems to be pretty complex. But, we already knew that:rolleyes:

Well, I guess we’ll see what happens today, lather, rinse, repeat.

Safe surfing everyone :cat:
 
Hmmmm, interesting. It sounds like the vet is basically deferring it to you as an expert of the area (which you are!)
I'm finding, as you did previously, many vets do not know much about the feline endocrine diseases.
All those feedback loops surely complicate the situation.
You are doing such an awesome job! I just hope you get to rest at night without having to worry.
It's that elusive sweet spot! But I have a feeling that you will find the sweet spot where both BG and T4 will be well managed and regulated.
I hope you and Ivy have a nice calm day! :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Staci & Ivy said:
He told me he thinks I’m very “dialed in” to every little nuance of Ivy’s situation. (He’s just learning about who I am and how obsessed I am with my cat). I mean, don’t we have to be???;)
He did comment that the practice doesn’t see many cats that have both diabetes and hyperthyroid :bookworm:
That seems so odd to me because it doesn’t appear uncommon from everything that I’ve read over the past seven months.
Other than that, he just said that we will have to see what the lab work shows next week.

He does think it’s obviously a good idea for me to reduce her dose as needed to keep her safe and he thinks it’s great that I have the Libre on her so that I know exactly what’s happening.
He’s a big proponent of using a Libre and he uses one for a dog of his own.
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If course we are all obsessed with what's going on with our cats. .That does seem odd to me also about What he said about the practice not seeing many days with diabetes and hyperthyroid ;)
At least he said to lower her dose as needed.
Sending prayers that when you retest her thyroid that increasing the med comes back with great new :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:

Looks like you were able to get some sleep last :cat:
I hope she starts to come up to some nice safe blues today
 
Mikanmama said:
Hmmmm, interesting. It sounds like the vet is basically deferring it to you as an expert of the area (which you are!)
I'm finding, as you did previously, many vets do not know much about the feline endocrine diseases.
All those feedback loops surely complicate the situation.
You are doing such an awesome job! I just hope you get to rest at night without having to worry.
It's that elusive sweet spot! But I have a feeling that you will find the sweet spot where both BG and T4 will be well managed and regulated.
I hope you and Ivy have a nice calm day! :bighug::bighug::bighug:
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Hi Kit, thank you but I am surely no expert! I keep counting on the vets to guide me and well, we know how that goes.
I agree we need to find her sweet spot so she can surf low enough but not so low that I am up every night all night!
Praying we get some good news next week and some clarity to make sense and manage her better.

Sending you lots of good wishes for Mikan's continued healing. Hope you have a nice night:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Diane Tyler's Mom GA said:
If course we are all obsessed with what's going on with our cats. .That does seem odd to me also about What he said about the practice not seeing many days with diabetes and hyperthyroid ;)
At least he said to lower her dose as needed.
Sending prayers that when you retest her thyroid that increasing the med comes back with great new :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:

Looks like you were able to get some sleep last :cat:
I hope she starts to come up to some nice safe blues today
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Hi Diane, It seems obvious to us that we are obsessed with our cats, right? It's the only way we know how.
I thought his comment was a little strange, too. I will have to question him again about that.

Thank you for the support and prayers- we sure can use it all!! Hope you have a good night and have good results yourself tomorrow!
:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Staci & Ivy said:
Hi Diane, It seems obvious to us that we are obsessed with our cats, right? It's the only way we know how.
I thought his comment was a little strange, too. I will have to question him again about that.

Thank you for the support and prayers- we sure can use it all!! Hope you have a good night and have good results yourself tomorrow!
:bighug::bighug::bighug:
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Thanks for the well wishes for tomorrow. :cat:
I hope Ivy surf's safely tonight so you can get some sleep .:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
I’m glad it was a peaceful day and the vet contacted you. I can think of a few explanations of his comments: to us it may seem like the world is full of hyperthyroid diabetic cats. Because our world is. Older cats often become hyperthyroid—sometimes that’s the beginning of the end for some owners. For some diabetic cats, also the beginning of the end, even more than hyperthyroid. Sadly many owners may lack the money or time to keep up the struggle. So I think not every owner can/will do what it takes to keep up the fight, especially long enough to add another problem (hyperthyroid or diabetes) let alone continue on dealing with two significant health issues.

when i lived in the Baltimore/DC area I took my cats to a cat only (and quite posh) vet clinic. I’m now in a rather rural area where many animals are working animals, be it barn cats or herd guardians. They know me (too well) now, as a high maintenance high strung anxious cat mom who will eat only beans for the rest of her life if necessary—just do all the tests and treatments needed. I can imagine they are getting to see a lot more test results they’d never ordered before. Especially on a cat—the herd dogs are pricey, barn cats are practically free from the TNR folks. So a cat with a significant health issue may not live long enough to add a second health issue.
 
SmallestSparrow said:
I’m glad it was a peaceful day and the vet contacted you. I can think of a few explanations of his comments: to us it may seem like the world is full of hyperthyroid diabetic cats. Because our world is. Older cats often become hyperthyroid—sometimes that’s the beginning of the end for some owners. For some diabetic cats, also the beginning of the end, even more than hyperthyroid. Sadly many owners may lack the money or time to keep up the struggle. So I think not every owner can/will do what it takes to keep up the fight, especially long enough to add another problem (hyperthyroid or diabetes) let alone continue on dealing with two significant health issues.

when i lived in the Baltimore/DC area I took my cats to a cat only (and quite posh) vet clinic. I’m now in a rather rural area where many animals are working animals, be it barn cats or herd guardians. They know me (too well) now, as a high maintenance high strung anxious cat mom who will eat only beans for the rest of her life if necessary—just do all the tests and treatments needed. I can imagine they are getting to see a lot more test results they’d never ordered before. Especially on a cat—the herd dogs are pricey, barn cats are practically free from the TNR folks. So a cat with a significant health issue may not live long enough to add a second health issue.
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I completely agree with everything you just said. However. The vet clinics that I take Ivy to are in more affluent, suburban areas. I can’t imagine that they are dealing with mostly TNR cats here.
I am absolutely certain that every clinic I have taken Ivy to they look at me like the crazy cat mom because I tell them to “order the tests”.
Like you said, I’m sure a lot of people don’t want to pay for all of the tests and treatments.
I mean we send tests out to VDI labs for calcium and vitamin D and thyroid tests to California to Hemopet plus all the in house tests sent to Antech.

When I asked for those test being sent out at two different clinics, they honored my wishes, but kind of looked at me like I was a bit over the top.

The current doctor I’m using now actually said to me when we sent the last round three months ago to test her vitamin D and calcium levels that he “really doesn’t do that typically but it’s actually a good thing because vitamin D is quite important as a marker with inflammation etc. and they probably should be doing it more often. “
So that was interesting to hear that feedback. So while I’m sure he thinks I’m crazy, I don’t really care. I feel like you do, I’ll sacrifice anything I have to to give her the care I feel she needs to get the answers so we can treat her accordingly.

And when he commented the other night that I’m “very dialed into every little nuance of what’s happening with her”, it was obvious he thinks I’m a bit obsessive, but I didn’t take it that he wasn’t being critical, just noting that I could answer any question he threw at me about what was going on with her.

And I’m also sure you’re right that many people would give up when they get a diagnosis of either diabetes or hyper thyroid and especially both of them at the same time. It’s just too much to deal with and too costly to treat. However, luckily for Ivy she landed with a crazy cat lady who was willing to give it my all

And obviously, it’s the same situation with you with your cats. So I’m sure the vets we deal with look at us like we’re a bit dramatic and over the top, but oh well, guess what, we’re here and deal with us.
Thank you for your comments, it’s a perspective I hadn’t thought about and I appreciate your sharing that with me, it’s helpful :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
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