? 9/8 Pudge AMPS 234 +2.5 225.. hmm. calipers (?)

[kitten68]

https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/thr...4-72-5-76-7-109-pmps-306.293781/#post-3204771

ok.. so my budget calipers have been a revelation. i looked at 1U.. checked the numbers.. lines seem to match up well. there is a veryyy small space where the arms dont close completely tho they do pretty much, thinking negligible but not sure if is a problem.. (???) also no ones place on screen, but am wondering if thats ok.. so only tells me tens.. ex. 1.2 mm

dosing has been alllll over the place. It would appear that 3.0 is not 3.0.. he also got almost .3-.4 less today…. Compared to previous days. and numbers sometimes off by at least .2… .3… .5 nearly….. (i started dating syringes some time ago.. thought it’d be a good idea..)

so just want to make sure doing correctly with these syringes: the ReliOns have a rim that juts out so I cant put the caliper flush with the barrel by zero/starting line; sometimes zero line is near where plunger edge on the perfect ones but mostly been eyeing where the zero line should be by the putting the bottom edge of the top arm there right where the plunger begins on the barrel, since medicine stops when that hits the top right (supposed to anyway) making sure to push the plunger right towards the top so it goes up as much as it will so the line starts right where medicine should also thus start (?).. is this ok? because otherwise i dont know how to measure with that rim ring in the way, unless to place calipers next to that til it touches barrel.. or start caliper right there and try to eye it best i can; touching barrel is best for that eyeing tho..

also, i had challenging (mean!!!) math teachers that shook my confidence in my math; know im kinda ok.. but if someone can check some numbers i got.. for ex. 4.5 mm is 3.4 U..
4.6 mm is 3.48 U..
4.4 mm is 3.3 U.. so on..
plz let me know.

ive gone back over the sheet to look at past doses and the results we got and have a much better idea at doses.. im just hoping i calibrated and computed things ok. Mostly atm just going to continue finding similar syringes and see.. until i know more about using the calipers properly/hear back. hopefully what i said makes sense.

Feel kinda upset but happy to know.. will be double checking numbers but pretty certain.. want to buy a nice fancy caliper when get a chance.. tho might not be needed ~ this ones pretty nice! lightweight too (Harbor Freight completely out of the one suggested here again.. using this one: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Hyper-To...6?classType=REGULAR&athbdg=L1200&from=/search)

ugh numbers today.. little bit stinky hes ok tho.

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[Alicia & Kit cat (GA)]

also no ones place on screen, but am wondering if thats ok.. so only tells me tens.. ex. 1.2 mm
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Just to confirm this - yours only shows one number past the decimal point? If yes, that's okay - round as needed. You're looking for consistency, and it will be close enough.

So here's what I do. There's this little bit of plastic that is a little further into the barrel than the rim that juts out. That is what I line one end of my caliper at. See the photo below. It's close to zero, so it's what I use. And as long as you pick something like that, and stick to that starting point, you should be okay. Consistency is what we're going for (as long as you're starting as close to zero as you can, and this is pretty dang close. I honestly only use the actual lines to make sure I have enough for the dose (going slightly larger than the number if the printed zero line is past where my chosen zero line is), and then only use the calipers from that point for each dose.

I wouldn't stress yourself out about what had been happening, you can't change it, and it will just drive you mad. Now that you have the calipers, you know from here on out it'll be more consistent.

For the conversions - you really want to be sticking with changing increments by 0.25 as much as possible. So you wouldn't really need 3.48 units, because you would use 3.5. Please note that the numbers I gave you before for conversions are only for Relion - there are other conversion numbers for other syringes, and you want to use the correct conversion for the syringe you're using.

Also, just because a previous dose was giving you good results, that can change. Doses will go up and down. Kit's had great results on 1.5, and she's having pretty darn good results at 2.75. It's just what Pudge's body needs now.

I think that answered everything - did I miss anything? Does that help? Did it bring up more questions?

 

[kitten68]

@Alicia & Kit cat

tysm for this!!

Just to confirm this - yours only shows one number past the decimal point? If yes, that's okay - round as needed. You're looking for consistency, and it will be close enough.

So here's what I do. There's this little bit of plastic that is a little further into the barrel than the rim that juts out. That is what I line one end of my caliper at. See the photo below. It's close to zero, so it's what I use. And as long as you pick something like that, and stick to that starting point, you should be okay. Consistency is what we're going for (as long as you're starting as close to zero as you can, and this is pretty dang close. I honestly only use the actual lines to make sure I have enough for the dose (going slightly larger than the number if the printed zero line is past where my chosen zero line is), and then only use the calipers from that point for each dose.

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I wouldn't stress yourself out about what had been happening, you can't change it, and it will just drive you mad. Now that you have the calipers, you know from here on out it'll be more consistent.

For the conversions - you really want to be sticking with changing increments by 0.25 as much as possible. So you wouldn't really need 3.48 units, because you would use 3.5. Please note that the numbers I gave you before for conversions are only for Relion - there are other conversion numbers for other syringes, and you want to use the correct conversion for the syringe you're using.

Also, just because a previous dose was giving you good results, that can change. Doses will go up and down. Kit's had great results on 1.5, and she's having pretty darn good results at 2.75. It's just what Pudge's body needs now.

I think that answered everything - did I miss anything? Does that help? Did it bring up more questions?

- right! only shows up to tens place.. so 4.3 for ex. no like 4.32 unfortunately.. but looking ok still otherwise. shrug. just ah good.. thats good to know.

- oh great!! ok.. well ive been starting things w the calipers right where the plunger meets the top.. that plunger line, easy to see; then use the lines below to see where the bottom arm ends up (so far its been on the 3.0 line……) which has made things a little easier.. havent dosed just using the caliper yet, but as close to the top is the best i imagine right, where the plunger meets think is pretty close too?? but thanks so much for pointing that out! i see it now; always noticed it but just thought it was a cloudy area.. haha.. but figure…. right beneath near the ring jutting out generally and we’re good? eh.. also have noticed they put the line right under the area you showing!

- Thanks for this!! big sigh…. just glad can dose better ideally going forward.. like geez! yesterday he got 3.1 if i did things correct.. not too bueno. haha.. just hoping im doing things right .. looks pretty all right

- only using ReliOns! read the stickie and did see each manufacturer has their own.. and understand about the increments. will try but am finding that just a little less is looking good. but know ideally and will keep in mind! the conversions arent even also so thats part of it too.. )

- this the issue right.. who knows what it was at times. fortunately things were ok, cause i tried being consistent w the lines (!!..) and syringes while keeping in mind changes and just whats needed.. but very true. certainly see that

yes!!! thank u so so much.. did indeed answer a lot.. thank u. If think of something else hope ok to also ask.. haha. prolly will.

 

[kitten68]

@Alicia & Kit cat
Hiiii meant to get back here more.. ugh. just wondering maybe your thoughts.. know quarter increments are the idea, but hes on a kind of custom dose anyway (around 3.4 U ~ love to know exact but my calipers again dont measure ones.. but thanks for saying is ok! glad to have em.. think will try to get some later.. or would u say makes a big difference? think u said was fine.. )

so would just change up or down .25.. so down would be 3.4 - .25?.. 3.15 U (hm.. round up or down idk haha..)

 

[Alicia & Kit cat (GA)]

@Alicia & Kit cat
Hiiii meant to get back here more.. ugh. just wondering maybe your thoughts.. know quarter increments are the idea, but hes on a kind of custom dose anyway (around 3.4 U ~ love to know exact but my calipers again dont measure ones.. but thanks for saying is ok! glad to have em.. think will try to get some later.. or would u say makes a big difference? think u said was fine.. )

so would just change up or down .25.. so down would be 3.4 - .25?.. 3.15 U (hm.. round up or down idk haha..)

I know you've been on the dose of 3.4, but I would strongly suggest finding a way to get to numbers that are divisible by 0.25. If you choose to do custom dosing, it will make it difficult for folks to offer advice. It also just makes the math easier. So if you're going to decrease, maybe decrease to 3.25, and make that your move to getting back to those numbers instead of custom dosing. I know your calipers only measure to one digit past the decimal point, but if you're consistent whichever direction you choose to round, it's close enough for the mm. You aren't rounding the units, only the numbers that are the mm conversions.

 

[kitten68]

I know you've been on the dose of 3.4, but I would strongly suggest finding a way to get to numbers that are divisible by 0.25. If you choose to do custom dosing, it will make it difficult for folks to offer advice. It also just makes the math easier. So if you're going to decrease, maybe decrease to 3.25, and make that your move to getting back to those numbers instead of custom dosing. I know your calipers only measure to one digit past the decimal point, but if you're consistent whichever direction you choose to round, it's close enough for the mm. You aren't rounding the units, only the numbers that are the mm conversions.

ah i see. ok! was able to find right that 4.3 mm (4.29 exactly) is 3.25 U more or less right.. okie will try..

and cant round mm here atm.. no ones place right haha whelp

also no one has got back on whether to continue dose yet.. am assuming so cuz i didnt let it go down past 50..

 

[tiffmaxee]

Please remember new day new thread. This one was started on the 9th and it’s the 24th. It gets lost among the more recent threads. Thanks.

 

[kitten68]

Please remember new day new thread. This one was started on the 9th and it’s the 24th. It gets lost among the more recent threads. Thanks.

didnt realize sorry. was doing to be organized.. ok.

 

[tiffmaxee]

As for the dose, you know the answer. With TR no decrease.

 

[kitten68]

As for the dose, you know the answer. With TR no decrease.

is the idea to have waited today to let it go down past 50?..