5/25 Cooper PMPS 86, +1 94, +2 76, +3 69, +4 57, +4.5 58, +5 57, +5.5 62
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JL & Cooper
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53, Cooper. 
Should have given him a +2 snack… +3 snack given, will test again soon
Should have given him a +2 snack… +3 snack given, will test again soon
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JL & Cooper
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First Hypo number…. Gave 15%, will test at +5.
He’d been needing a snack mix of 4% w/ 15% to stay above 50 this morning. But he’s basically flat
He’d been needing a snack mix of 4% w/ 15% to stay above 50 this morning. But he’s basically flat
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JoM
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Youve been getting some great numbers. I wonder if it might be time for a reduction if you have to feed higher carbs to keep him above 50. Ive been at this for almost 5 months and I cant get Karamelle regulated. We keep flip flopping doses up and down. Shes at the low end the last 3 days, with an occasional bounce. Still pretty confusing for me. No advice, just a hug. 
Angela & Cleo
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JL & Cooper
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Youve been getting some great numbers. I wonder if it might be time for a reduction if you have to feed higher carbs to keep him above 50. Ive been at this for almost 5 months and I cant get Karamelle regulated. We keep flip flopping doses up and down. Shes at the low end the last 3 days, with an occasional bounce. Still pretty confusing for me. No advice, just a hug.
Thanks Jo, I appreciate it!
Today did feel different; he hasn’t needed food to keep him up on the others cycles. Was sad to see that 47, but agree that this cycle in general (even without the 47) was asking for a reduction.
JL & Cooper
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JL & Cooper
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One hour from PMPS, so I know that number is still coming.. but as of now is it safe to shoot his new reduced dose? I’ve shot in the 60s a couple times this week already, but does how AM cycle went today change things at all? Thanks for the input!
JL & Cooper
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PMPS 78. I fed him, he’s hungry. Unsure about shooting? He’s heading up, which is helpful, but been very low all day.
JL & Cooper
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Shot given after 15 min delay and retest (food had been eaten). Fingers crossed he’s flat tonight
Bandit's Mom
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Sorry no one responded earlier! Congrats on the reduction. 
Why were you unsure shooting? He was headed up like you said, and he has begun to flatten out beautifully so you will find yourself shooting a lot of green.
The higher depot will continue to affect the next few cycles. The depot takes 4-6 cycles to adjust, so you might have to use carbs to keeps him over 50 in that time. See if he decides to bounce tonight from that lime and give you a night off.
Why were you unsure shooting? He was headed up like you said, and he has begun to flatten out beautifully so you will find yourself shooting a lot of green.
The higher depot will continue to affect the next few cycles. The depot takes 4-6 cycles to adjust, so you might have to use carbs to keeps him over 50 in that time. See if he decides to bounce tonight from that lime and give you a night off.
JL & Cooper
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Sorry no one responded earlier! Congrats on the reduction.
Why were you unsure shooting? He was headed up like you said, and he has begun to flatten out beautifully so you will find yourself shooting a lot of green.
The higher depot will continue to affect the next few cycles. The depot takes 4-6 cycles to adjust, so you might have to use carbs to keeps him over 50 in that time. See if he decides to bounce tonight from that lime and give you a night off.
Thank you! And it’s ok! Ultimately I checked some other spreadsheets for similar scenarios, to see what was likely to happen tonight (I know ECID).
I was partly unsure because of the existing depot…. Just the unknown of what tonight would bring, since it’s a change in cycle pattern. There’s been so many tests the last 24 hours, and I’m not sure he can do 5+ hours of that again tonight. I also knew I’d read in the past couple months on other’s threads, with similar situations, times when they were encouraged not to shoot. I couldn’t remember what those reasons were, and was afraid his prolongued low cycle today would end up being one of them.
I just wanted reassurance, I suppose.
Bandit's Mom
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The only time we ask caregivers (who are used to lower numbers and shooting low) not to shoot is if the depot is clearly overfull and numbers had to bring up. Then a skip is useful in draining the depot. In some situations where the CG cannot monitor etc, we might suggest a skip or a token dose. Otherwise, you can shoot any number over 50 (human meter) without stalling.
JL & Cooper
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The only time we ask caregivers (who are used to lower numbers and shooting low) not to shoot is if the depot is clearly overfull and numbers had to bring up. Then a skip is useful in draining the depot. In some situations where the CG cannot monitor etc, we might suggest a skip or a token dose. Otherwise, you can shoot any number over 50 (human meter) without stalling.
Ok thank you, that’s helpful!
Apparently Cooper wasn’t interested in that bounce!
Bandit's Mom
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I saw!Apparently Cooper wasn’t interested in that bounce!
I should also warn you that sometimes cats flip a switch to green and race down in dosing. I see you are on vacation for a couple of days in a week or so. Will someone be there to test and shoot?
JL & Cooper
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I saw!
I should also warn you that sometimes cats flip a switch to green and race down in dosing. I see you are on vacation for a couple of days in a week or so. Will someone be there to test and shoot?
That wouldn’t shock me at all, based on this week!
That vacation is a problem…. It’s on my spreadsheet as warning of what’s coming….
Everyone *he* knows is on vacation the same weekend we’re gone, and boarding isn’t an option. And our last pet sitter can’t test him, granted he wouldn’t let her near him for a shot anyway (and it wouldn’t be safe to try this time without testing). So I’m out of ideas at the moment. Which I realize, isn’t great. (Food for those days isn’t a concern though)
Bandit's Mom
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Many of us can't find petsitters who can test or have kitties who won't let them test. So that's not an issue. We suggest a lower "vacation" dose for safety.
Let's take a call on dose closer to the date depending on whether you find a sitter who can give him shots or not.
Let's take a call on dose closer to the date depending on whether you find a sitter who can give him shots or not.
JL & Cooper
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Ok thanks. That was our intention on the last trip. I’m anticipating him missing 4 doses again this time, but we’re trying to see if we can figure something out… especially with how good his numbers are looking.
btw, +4 57