3/27 Kit AMPS 216, +3 104, +9 194, PMPS 185, +1 141, +2 59, +3 43, +3.5 55

Alicia & Kit cat (GA)

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3/26 thread

Holy buckets batman, what a busy day!

Kit started in the yellows, and seemed to trend a little higher this morning with no greens before I had to leave (possibly helped by some 12% mixed into her regular food), but since I had to be gone much of the day, I'm more okay with it.

I hope everyone is having a good Wednesday so far!
 
3/26 thread

Holy buckets batman, what a busy day!

Kit started in the yellows, and seemed to trend a little higher this morning with no greens before I had to leave (possibly helped by some 12% mixed into her regular food), but since I had to be gone much of the day, I'm more okay with it.

I hope everyone is having a good Wednesday so far!
Hi Alicia, very glad Kit stayed safe while you were gone today on those carbs.
How much 12% did you mix in? Just curious.
(I’ve been feeding all 12% when I go out for dinner to make sure she doesn’t dive).
More food experiments.
Hugs and scritches to your sweet girl. :cat:
Hope you all have a nice quiet night :bighug::cat::bighug:
 
Hi Alicia, very glad Kit stayed safe while you were gone today on those carbs.
How much 12% did you mix in? Just curious.
(I’ve been feeding all 12% when I go out for dinner to make sure she doesn’t dive).
More food experiments.
Hugs and scritches to your sweet girl. :cat:
Hope you all have a nice quiet night :bighug::cat::bighug:
I sometimes do a straight half and half, but since I knew I would be gone longer today, I did maybe a couple of tablespoons of 12 and 1 tablespoon of 3%. I don't actually use a tablespoon or teaspoon, sometimes it's an ish based on how much is on the fork or spoon. It also varies on how far into the cycle we are and how much she's already dropped. And it's a recent thing to play with so she doesn't get bored with the stuff that is 7-9%. She may just get the 12% tonight (whichever flavor is handy) if she doesn't slow her roll. :rolleyes:
 
Hi Alicia, very glad Kit stayed safe while you were gone today on those carbs.
How much 12% did you mix in? Just curious.
(I’ve been feeding all 12% when I go out for dinner to make sure she doesn’t dive).
More food experiments.
Hugs and scritches to your sweet girl. :cat:
Hope you all have a nice quiet night :bighug::cat::bighug:
Also, all of these food experiments I've been doing - it's still so weird to me that the first time around I pretty much fed only 0-2% food, and she mostly went the "week in greens" sort of decreases. The entire maybe 6 months we had 3 limes, and they were all in one week in month 3. So I've had to be more creative this go round.
 
Looks like a mellow day and the timing is pretty good!
The carb manipulation thing is something I have hard time understanding.
I don't see a clear linear relationship to BGs - I guess there are so many extra things that get in a way.
I guess I just have to keep trying out different things to see.
Hope you have a mellow night and get to rest up!
 
Looks like a mellow day and the timing is pretty good!
The carb manipulation thing is something I have hard time understanding.
I don't see a clear linear relationship to BGs - I guess there are so many extra things that get in a way.
I guess I just have to keep trying out different things to see.
Hope you have a mellow night and get to rest up!
Alas, no mellow night. Just a lime sort of night.

It took me awhile to sort of figure out what I needed to try with carbs. It was sort of counter intuitive at first? But if Kit's high, and she's on a dose where she's likely to drop fast, especially early in the cycle (as is her wont), I try to slow it down at +1 and maybe +2 so we don't see the 100+ point drops. It felt more intuitive when I thought about it that way. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I have to start with a higher low carb food at preshot to keep her from dropping too fast.

I sort of look at it as if she's high blues or above, I'll feed a 7 or 9% because that's what it seems like it takes to slow her down. If it's over 100, but not too high, I feed 5-7% at +1 and maybe +2. And all of that is because she gets into these cycles of good numbers, then she'll trend a little high and have a huge drop really fast, which pushes her into a bounce, which she then drops from, which pushes her back into a bounce, and she just gets into this cycle of drops and bounces. So whatever I can do to curtail that.

I honestly wasn't expecting the drop from 141 to 59 tonight, and then a lime, so tomorrow might be a bounce. Or she might not, she likes to surprise me. And as you mentioned yesterday, it's easier for them to recover from some deliberate high carb to keep them where we need them occasionally (ECID, but having to constantly feed MC and HC to keep them in good numbers is not a great method), than it is to try to get her out of the bounce/drop cycle.

I also think that if I hadn't had Eric feed 5-6% at +1 and 2 while I was gone, her vacation dose might have been too high for him to manage whatever would pop up. I got back on Saturday, so it had been 6 days since we had put her on the vacation dose, and I wanted to see what happened if I just fed her the 3% she gets at shot time, and she dropped to the 80s. Which I definitely wasn't anticipating since we'd lowered her dose a quarter.

Hope that all makes sense! None of it is set in stone, and I just sort of try things until something works, and then adjust when needed. Just trying to keep the curve gentle so when she gets to those lower numbers, she can stay there without bouncing. IN theory.
 
Alas, no mellow night. Just a lime sort of night.

It took me awhile to sort of figure out what I needed to try with carbs. It was sort of counter intuitive at first? But if Kit's high, and she's on a dose where she's likely to drop fast, especially early in the cycle (as is her wont), I try to slow it down at +1 and maybe +2 so we don't see the 100+ point drops. It felt more intuitive when I thought about it that way. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I have to start with a higher low carb food at preshot to keep her from dropping too fast.

I sort of look at it as if she's high blues or above, I'll feed a 7 or 9% because that's what it seems like it takes to slow her down. If it's over 100, but not too high, I feed 5-7% at +1 and maybe +2. And all of that is because she gets into these cycles of good numbers, then she'll trend a little high and have a huge drop really fast, which pushes her into a bounce, which she then drops from, which pushes her back into a bounce, and she just gets into this cycle of drops and bounces. So whatever I can do to curtail that.

I honestly wasn't expecting the drop from 141 to 59 tonight, and then a lime, so tomorrow might be a bounce. Or she might not, she likes to surprise me. And as you mentioned yesterday, it's easier for them to recover from some deliberate high carb to keep them where we need them occasionally (ECID, but having to constantly feed MC and HC to keep them in good numbers is not a great method), than it is to try to get her out of the bounce/drop cycle.

I also think that if I hadn't had Eric feed 5-6% at +1 and 2 while I was gone, her vacation dose might have been too high for him to manage whatever would pop up. I got back on Saturday, so it had been 6 days since we had put her on the vacation dose, and I wanted to see what happened if I just fed her the 3% she gets at shot time, and she dropped to the 80s. Which I definitely wasn't anticipating since we'd lowered her dose a quarter.

Hope that all makes sense! None of it is set in stone, and I just sort of try things until something works, and then adjust when needed. Just trying to keep the curve gentle so when she gets to those lower numbers, she can stay there without bouncing. IN theory.
Thanks Alicia.
I see your point. The use of higher ones to minimize the potential of a big drop, which hopefully produces a mellower cycle with less potential for a bounce later.
Mikan has a problem of volatile ups and downs. I feel I'm always one step behind, chasing the numbers.
I look at others' SSs with nice flatter curves and think, why? Why can't Mikan do that?
I'm gonna try experimenting myself. Although Mikan's a finicky eater and one thing she loves one day may be something she would turn her nose up the next :rolleyes:
But I've got to find a better way to minimize the extremes.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Hope you didn't have to stay up too late last night!
 
Alas, no mellow night. Just a lime sort of night.

It took me awhile to sort of figure out what I needed to try with carbs. It was sort of counter intuitive at first? But if Kit's high, and she's on a dose where she's likely to drop fast, especially early in the cycle (as is her wont), I try to slow it down at +1 and maybe +2 so we don't see the 100+ point drops. It felt more intuitive when I thought about it that way. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes I have to start with a higher low carb food at preshot to keep her from dropping too fast.

I sort of look at it as if she's high blues or above, I'll feed a 7 or 9% because that's what it seems like it takes to slow her down. If it's over 100, but not too high, I feed 5-7% at +1 and maybe +2. And all of that is because she gets into these cycles of good numbers, then she'll trend a little high and have a huge drop really fast, which pushes her into a bounce, which she then drops from, which pushes her back into a bounce, and she just gets into this cycle of drops and bounces. So whatever I can do to curtail that.

I honestly wasn't expecting the drop from 141 to 59 tonight, and then a lime, so tomorrow might be a bounce. Or she might not, she likes to surprise me. And as you mentioned yesterday, it's easier for them to recover from some deliberate high carb to keep them where we need them occasionally (ECID, but having to constantly feed MC and HC to keep them in good numbers is not a great method), than it is to try to get her out of the bounce/drop cycle.

I also think that if I hadn't had Eric feed 5-6% at +1 and 2 while I was gone, her vacation dose might have been too high for him to manage whatever would pop up. I got back on Saturday, so it had been 6 days since we had put her on the vacation dose, and I wanted to see what happened if I just fed her the 3% she gets at shot time, and she dropped to the 80s. Which I definitely wasn't anticipating since we'd lowered her dose a quarter.

Hope that all makes sense! None of it is set in stone, and I just sort of try things until something works, and then adjust when needed. Just trying to keep the curve gentle so when she gets to those lower numbers, she can stay there without bouncing. IN theory.
WOW, you’ve got this down. I’m so impressed. I still don’t really get what to feel and when. I feel like I’m being much more reactive when I see a drop coming and then, of course ultimately she just bounces up high after that big drop :banghead:
 
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