08/08 Abbott AMPS 87 PMPS 110 +2@75

I just had to start Faraday on a diet. He started out at diagnosis at a very skinny 10ish lbs. It took him a couple months to get up to a healthy looking 12.5, but now he’s gone too far several months beyond that and is 14lbs. Diet it is!
 
Cali S said:
I just had to start Faraday on a diet. He started out at diagnosis at a very skinny 10ish lbs. It took him a couple months to get up to a healthy looking 12.5, but now he’s gone too far several months beyond that and is 14lbs. Diet it is!
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Yep I’m in the same boat. With all the extra treats at testing it adds up! Abbotts at 13.2 but was at 11 when we started.
 
+4@79
Fed LC feeder

wondering if I should feed at 5 and 6.
He is in the higher greens but I have been feeding later and he’s staying green so…o_O
 
Sorry. Late getting online today.
Stay with LC. He usually drops at onset and then stays flat. Unless he decides to change things up on the new dose. The food at +2.5 will help. Let's see the +3.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Sorry. Late getting online today.
Stay with LC. He usually drops at onset and then stays flat. Unless he decides to change things up on the new dose. The food at +2.5 will help. Let's see the +3.
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Ahhh I was thinking you might say that. I panicked again.
 
+3@80

I know, I know, you’re right. I just remember you saying that one time that if you get a big drop from PS to +2 that you should slow him down with carbs but maybe that was before we had more data on how he reacts and his patterns. Next time I won’t panic. Think I screwed it up again? Looks like the MC kept him flat…
 
AbbottTheCat said:
I just remember you saying that one time that if you get a big drop from PS to +2 that you should slow him down with carbs but maybe that was before we had more data on how he reacts and his patterns.
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Yup. I did think that the first couple of times he dove at +2. Later realized that he drops at onset but seems to flatten out after. But they like to change things up - keep us on our toes.

AbbottTheCat said:
Think I screwed it up again? Looks like the MC kept him flat…
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You didn't. One could argue that LC and MC mixed was just higher carb LC. And it's just one cycle. It's cool.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Yup. I did think that the first couple of times he dove at +2. Later realized that he drops at onset but seems to flatten out after. But they like to change things up - keep us on our toes.


You didn't. One could argue that LC and MC mixed was just higher carb LC. And it's just one cycle. It's cool.
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Ok that makes me feel better. I’ve just been ping ponging back and forth with these two doses for so long now. I know it’s a marathon not a sprint but I worry that he might get stuck in this phase. Have you seen this happen before?
 
AbbottTheCat said:
Have you seen this happen before?
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Cats going between doses? Yes, that does happen. In those cases there are 2 options (a) follow the rule for reduction for cats who fail reductions i.e. 3 drops between 40 and 50 on 3 separate days
or (b) try a dose in between. in this case it would be 2.375U. you'd need to use callipers to measure that accurately though!

I think he is looking good this time though. Look at all that healing green. I'd like to hope that this time a reduction would stick. Paws crossed!

Get a +5 rather than a +4?
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Cats going between doses? Yes, that does happen. In those cases there are 2 options (a) follow the rule for reduction for cats who fail reductions i.e. 3 drops between 40 and 50 on 3 separate days
or (b) try a dose in between. in this case it would be 2.375U. you'd need to use callipers to measure that accurately though!

I think he is looking good this time though. Look at all that healing green. I'd like to hope that this time a reduction would stick. Paws crossed!

Get a +5 rather than a +4?
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Yes I’m sorry I phrased that question poorly, I know they can go between doses what I meant was go back and forth for so long but if we were to reduce again this time and his numbers trended upward we would go right back to higher dose right?

but yes I share your hope that this time a reduction would stick, and my paws are crossed lol.

I will get a +5
 
AbbottTheCat said:
what I meant was go back and forth for so long but if we were to reduce again this time and his numbers trended upward we would go right back to higher dose right?
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Let me see if I understood the Q this time :-) If he were to earn a reduction to 2.25U again and that didn't hold (again), would you go back up to 2.5U?
You could either (a) Go back up to 2.5u and this time try the 3 drops rule to reduce again or (b) try a dose in between (2.375U) to see if that works.
 
I mean if he goes back to 2.25 would we go right back up if numbers trending higher instead of waiting so long like last time.

**If an attempted reduction fails, go right back up to the last good dose as soon as you see kitty's numbers trending upwards. You don't have to hold the reduced dose for a certain number of cycles before taking the dose right back up. The guidelines listed under the topic "Increasing the dose" do not apply to a failed reduction.

And what’s the 3 drop rule? I don’t see that in the sticky
 
AbbottTheCat said:
I mean if he goes back to 2.25 would we go right back up if numbers trending higher instead of waiting so long like last time.
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Yes. I would wait 6 cycles for the depot to stabilize and any bounce to clear.

AbbottTheCat said:
And what’s the 3 drop rule? I don’t see that in the sticky
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Reminder: *earning* reductions and starting OTJ trials

"reduction *earned* after 3 drops between 40 - 50 mg/dL on three separate days for kitties who have shown they do not hold reductions well and following TR,"
 
Looks like the MC worked out - or at least didn't much affect his numbers. Nice surf! :-)

Yes. AF at +6. Good night!
 
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