First blood glucose home test

The AMPS is the am preshot test you do before giving the dose of insulin. The PMPS is the pm preshot test you do before giving the insulin.
Sounds like the correct shot.
Have you tested her since then?
What are your dosing times?
 
The AMPS is the am preshot test you do before giving the dose of insulin. The PMPS is the pm preshot test you do before giving the insulin.
Sounds like the correct shot.
Have you tested her since then?
What are your dosing times?
I haven't tested her since, I'm planning on just doing tests before meals atm to give her a bit of time to get used to me doing it (and to make sure she's safe to get the shot) for the first week. So it'll be:
9:30am - Breakfast
2:00pm - Test
2:10pm - Lunch
2:15pm - Shot
8:00pm - Dinner
1:50am - Test
2:00am - Midnight snack
2:05am - Shot

Next week I'll add an extra test at 7:00pm, no way am I getting up to test her at 7:00am! :confused:

Then the week after I'll do a curve day.

Then when she's been on the new low carb dry food for about a week I might do another curve to see how much that might have changed things.

I think this sounds okay...? :nailbiting::D
 
I haven't tested her since, I'm planning on just doing tests before meals atm to give her a bit of time to get used to me doing it (and to make sure she's safe to get the shot) for the first week. So it'll be:
9:30am - Breakfast
2:00pm - Test
2:10pm - Lunch
2:15pm - Shot
8:00pm - Dinner
1:50am - Test
2:00am - Midnight snack
2:05am - Shot

Next week I'll add an extra test at 7:00pm, no way am I getting up to test her at 7:00am! :confused:

Then the week after I'll do a curve day.

Then when she's been on the new low carb dry food for about a week I might do another curve to see how much that might have changed things.

I think this sounds okay...? :nailbiting::D

Is the 2am :2 pm a good schedule for you?
If at all possible, I would recommend you try and get some tests in during the cycle, because that is the only way we can tell how the dose of insulin is working. A test done between +4 and +7 will tell us how low the dose is taking her. The preshot will give you no idea of that. My concern is we won’t know if she is dropping too low. I would also add another snack during both cycles if you can…in the first half of the cycle.
 
Is the 2am :2 pm a good schedule for you?
If at all possible, I would recommend you try and get some tests in during the cycle, because that is the only way we can tell how the dose of insulin is working. A test done between +4 and +7 will tell us how low the dose is taking her. The preshot will give you no idea of that. My concern is we won’t know if she is dropping too low. I would also add another snack during both cycles if you can…in the first half of the cycle.

Yeah I chose 2am and 2pm because it suits me, I'm up until 4am/5am most days. If I test at 7pm that would be approximately +5.
 
And I figure what with her high readings and only being on 0.5u for about a month now with no testing until yesterday she's fairly unlikely to go hypo...?
 
And I figure what with her high readings and only being on 0.5u for about a month now with no testing until yesterday she's fairly unlikely to go hypo...?
Now that you have removed the high carb or are in the process of doing so…..I would not assume anything.
The AMPS today is much lower than the AMPS yesterday so the nadir is most likely to be lower than it has been.
 
Now that you have removed the high carb or are in the process of doing so…..I would not assume anything.
The AMPS today is much lower than the AMPS yesterday so the nadir is most likely to be lower than it has been.

Okay. Well since it's only day 2 of testing can I just do the 1:50am test today and then test her 3 times tomorrow? I really just want to increase it gradually because she's already not happy about it and I don't want her to start running away when she hears/sees me getting the kit out, she's hard to catch when she doesn't want something! :rolleyes:
 
Okay. Well since it's only day 2 of testing can I just do the 1:50am test today and then test her 3 times tomorrow? I really just want to increase it gradually because she's already not happy about it and I don't want her to start running away when she hears/sees me getting the kit out, she's hard to catch when she doesn't want something! :rolleyes:
Are you giving her a treat every time you test?
 
yes make sure you are making the BG testing a special time where yummy treats are given

Check out this absolutely amazing post from @Elizabeth and Bertie


It can take time. So do be patient with yourself. (((Hugs)))

With both of my diabetics the key to success with testing has been 'desensitization' and 'counter conditioning'.
My first diabetic was a large and strong willed cat, and there was no way I'd be able to test unless he was OK with that... My current diabetic girl absolutely hates having her ears touched, so she presented a particularly difficult challenge at first (Note: some cats are fine with paw testing, but my girl hates her feet being touched too...)
Neither of my cats has tolerated being held or restrained in any way at all. So, I've had to use 'distraction' to keep them relatively still while I quickly test.
I could distract my first diabetic with some crushed cat treats and test him while he was hoovering up the treat crumbs. My diabetic girl likes to be brushed. So, I just sneak a test into the middle of a little brushing/grooming session and she barely notices. Singing to her while I brush her seems to help too... :rolleyes: ....This did take a bit of time, but with patience and persistence all kinds of things are possible...

With both my cats I've had to go slowly, introducing just a very low level aspect of testing at first, but not enough to spook or upset them.
....This is something that I wrote for another group, just copying it here in case it's helpful...

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GETTING KITTY USED TO BEING TESTED - ‘DESENSITISATION’
Some kitties take to being tested like proverbial ‘ducks to water’, they are just not bothered by it at all. Other kitties take a bit more work, and with a minority of kitties it can take a quite a bit of dedicated effort to get them used to the process.
Please be reassured that ‘most’ kitties can be tested, and ‘most’ people can learn to do it. Honestly!

One really useful way to get kitties used to testing is to ‘desensitise’ them to the sensations and sounds involved in the test process. And a really good thing to do at first is just to get them more used to having their ears touched.
So, whenever you are stroking or cuddling the kitty use that opportunity to include very gentle ‘ear touching’ when you stroke them, just for a second at first. Make ear touching ‘ordinary’ and nothing to fear...

You can also go to wherever the cat is chilling out, then stroke them, hold or massage an ear for a second or two, and then immediately reward with a yummy treat and some praise. This starts to condition them to associate ear touching with rewards. And this is what you want to happen.

You can also get them used to the test kit itself. For example, you can rattle the test strip container, or click the lancing device a few times (it can be used a bit like a training clicker), and immediately give the kitty a treat. Then just walk away, leaving them with their reward. They can soon come to associate those sounds with rewards just like when they hear the sound of the can opener...

I did these kinds of desensitisation techniques with my kitties about 6 or 7 times a day at first during the first couple of weeks. It only takes a minute or two each time, maybe only seconds. But that repetition is key to success. Repetition, repetition, repetition...

It can be often be helpful at first to test in the same location so as to establish a routine. I tested my first diabetic on a table top. I test my current girl in her favourite armchair. You can get the kitty used to the test spot by taking or calling them there and just rewarding them with strokes or brushing, or treats.
Make the test spot a place where nice things happen.
If you can get the kitty to the test spot and hold or massage an ear for a second or two and then reward with a treat and praise, you really are most of the way to being able to test on a regular basis.

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HOMETESTING TIPS & TRICKS

1. WARM EARS. Probably THE most important thing. Warm ears bleed very much more easily than cold ones. You can warm an ear by massaging it, or by holding something warm against it; ie a pill bottle filled with warm water, or a ‘rice sock’ briefly warmed in the microwave.

2. MASSAGING immediately below the ear prick, with finger and thumb, can ‘milk’ more blood out. I almost always do this, if only for a second or two.

3. VASELINE. A teensy weensy smear of Vaseline on the outer edge of the ear will enable the blood to ‘bead up’ and stops it disappearing into the fur. This also makes it easier to see the blood droplet if the kitty has dark ears.

4. RESISTANCE. The lancet needs something to ‘resist’ otherwise it can push the ear away rather than pricking it effectively. Some folks use a piece of cotton wool or folded tissue. I use one of my fingers, but sometimes do accidentally take a blood sample from myself that way.

5. TWO EAR PRICKS close together can often produce enough blood for a test when one ear prick might not.

6. SCOOPING THE BLOOD DROP ONTO YOUR FINGERNAIL. Doing this is a game-changer for some people. If you can get that drop of blood on your finger or thumb nail you can then let the kitty go and finish the test without her/him.

7. TREATS. It is important to reward the kitty for each attempted test, whether the test was ‘successful’ or not. Cats very soon learn to associate tests with treats. And some will soon come running for their tests. A ‘treat’ is usually a food reward of some kind, but some folks reward their kitties with a cuddle or a grooming session. I actually crumble a few treats for my cat and test him while he’s hoovering up the crumbs.

Remember to reward yourself too. Chocolate is good…

8. GET COMFORTABLE. If you are physically comfortable you’ll be more relaxed, and also less likely to try to rush the process. Some people like to test their cats on a counter top or a desk, maybe next to a desk lamp. Some people prefer to hold their cats on their laps when they test. Some folks incorporate testing into a grooming session. You’ll find what works best for you. And once you get used to home testing you’ll quite possibly be able to do it anywhere, and maybe even while the kitty is asleep.

9. RELAX. Cats pick up on our moods. The more relaxed and ‘matter of fact’ we are, the more relaxed and confident the kitty is likely to be. Some people chat or sing to their cats while they test him. Try it. It might help you too.

10. PATIENCE. Be kind to yourself. You’re learning something new. (And you’re learning something wonderful!)

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Re desensitization and counter conditioning, there is a good little video here showing a real life example. The (very fast talking!) vet in this vid is getting a food-motivated cat used to injections. But the principles of desensitization and counter conditioning can be used in many situations.


Eliz
 
Yes, but I only have high carb treats like Greenies. Or else are the Fancy Feast and Dine tubes okay?

I dont know about the dine tubes but we switched from greenies and temptations, which our cats previously went crazy for, to low-carb treats

and now they go even more crazy for the low-carb ones! The other 5 cats know when Hendrick gets a pokey, treats are dispensed and if they wait patiently and don't interrupt, they might get a little tiny piece

these whole life one ingredient freeze-dried treats are the ones they love THE MOST. And Hendrick loves them so much, he will go to the BG test spot "Pokey Spot" and just sit sometimes, and wait...hoping maybe it is time for a BG test and treat.

Chicken:

https://www.chewy.com/whole-life-just-one-ingredient-pure/dp/255798

or Turkey:

https://www.chewy.com/whole-life-just-one-ingredient-pure/dp/44039


oh yeah you're down under. Sorry mate completely forgot. NM the chewy links but maybe you can find something similar?
 
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The Greenies are high carb so I wouldn’t use those.
The dine tubes I have never heard of, but I looked them up and I think I saw them at the vet the other day when they were trying to tempt one of my cats to distract her. I feed a raw diet so I am not up to date with bought cat foods. I’m not sure if they are low carb or not. There’s not much information on the back about the ingredients. But I don’t think they are high carb. You could give them a try.
One of the other caregivers here in Australia gives her cat Fancy Feast Royale broths when she tests. She lets the cat eat it while she tests. https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/...VCJhmAh39wwz_EAQYASABEgK5lfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

When I was testing Sheba I used to give her home made broth when I tested. She would come running whenever she heard me at the testing kit.
 
I dont know about the dine tubes but we switched from greenies and temptations, which our cats previously went crazy for, to low-carb treats

and now they go even more crazy for the low-carb ones! The other 5 cats know when Hendrick gets a pokey, treats are dispensed and if they wait patiently and don't interrupt, they might get a little tiny piece

these whole life one ingredient freeze-dried treats are the ones they love THE MOST. And Hendrick loves them so much, he will go to the BG test spot "Pokey Spot" and just sit sometimes, and wait...hoping maybe it is time for a BG test and treat.

Chicken:

https://www.chewy.com/whole-life-just-one-ingredient-pure/dp/255798

or Turkey:

https://www.chewy.com/whole-life-just-one-ingredient-pure/dp/44039


oh yeah you're down under. Sorry mate completely forgot. NM the chewy links but maybe you can find something similar?

I was just gonna wait for the low carb dry food to get here and hope that she's happy with those as treats as well as 1 meal a day *crosses fingers* In the meantime I think I'll give her the Fancy Feast Puree Kiss tubes, and the Dine Creamy Treats tubes (googled and think they're probably okay)
 
So she likes the Ziwi Peak air-dried food and Feline Naturals freeze-dried food as a topper so far. So for breakfast, lunch, and midnight snack she gets a quarter of a can of FF with topper, and for dinner she has half a can of FF.

I've learnt it's not just carbs we're meant to look for, but metabolisable energy carbs, so mistakenly bought a box of Ocean Whitefish & Tuna pate that has too high ME carbs so will have to save that box (and the box of sliced flavours) for hypos and/or feed them to the other cats. They didn't have any of the pate variety packs at Petstock so I have a box of chunky chicken flavour to give her until I can find more pate.

She keeps finishing her meal before the others and stealing some of their high carb dry food before I get the chance to stop her, will this be a big problem? I know she shouldn't... lol

I was also looking at the flaked varieties... They come up as less than 0% carbs so I'm not sure if it's safe, or they've just entered the info wrong on their own website. Does anyone know if the flaked ones are definitely low carb?
 
Are you able to get some tests in during the pm cycle as well as the am cycle? Cats can drop lower at night. Even a before bed test is a good habit to get into.

If you can show us the ingredients list on the back of the cans we can help you with the carb content.
That’s good she likes this freeze dried foods.
 
Are you able to get some tests in during the pm cycle as well as the am cycle? Cats can drop lower at night. Even a before bed test is a good habit to get into.

If you can show us the ingredients list on the back of the cans we can help you with the carb content.
That’s good she likes this freeze dried foods.

The PM shot is done at 2am before I go to bed and I don't have anyone to help me to test her in the mornings unfortunately.

There's a Libre coming in the mail for her soon, so that'll make things easier for a week or two, I hope! I've ordered some Libre cover stickers and am looking for a little dog vest for her on the weekend to try to prevent her from ripping it off.

Here's one of the flaked Fancy Feast varieties:
https://www.purina.com/fancy-feast/wet-cat-food/timeless-favorites-flaked-tuna
 
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