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Sara K said:
I could do TR since he has the freestyle Libra installed. Does the air dried ziwi peak count as not dry food?
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Yes you can do TR , it doesn't count as dry food

What LC wet are you feeding most of us feed Fancy Feast Classic Pate or Friskies pate, limit fish flavors to one a week. Do you have med and high carb foods in case you need to bring Brady's numbers up such as
For your hypo kit
For your hypo kit you want some
Med and High Carb food and some honey



Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Gourmet Beef Feast in Gravy 20% High Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Gourmet Chicken Feast in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Turkey Feast in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Fancy Feast Gravy Lovers Chicken and Beef in Gravy 15% Med Carbs

Good idea to mark the cans with magic marker how many carbs

Or any on the food chart.
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/dr-pierson-new-food-chart.174147/
 
I feed 1 pouch of wurva B.f.f turkey and chicken and 1 carton of tiki cat compliments chicken and chicken broth plus 21 grams of ziwi peak all mixed up together. I have honey and maple syrup but I don't have any high carb wet food so I'll have to get some.
 
What time do you shoot? The dose depends on the method you choose and how low the BG gets on a given dose

Once I know which method I will suggest dose.

If TR let’s try .50 since you did see green there. It might have been influenced by the 1.0 but we don’t know. If it’s too little we. An go up in 3 days. If .25 you hold the .25 for 7 days from the drop under 90.
 
tiffmaxee said:
What time do you shoot? The dose depends on the method you choose and how low the BG gets on a given dose

Once I know which method I will suggest dose.
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She said
I could do TR since he has the freestyle Libra installed. Does the air dried ziwi peak count as not dry food? She shoots 8 AM and 8 PM

I'll tag her now to see if she definitely is going to follow TR
@Sara K
Sara are you definitely going to follow TR if so can you add it to your signature and SS
 
Freeze dried is not dry food. Make sure you rehydrate it. I think Ziwi makes canned as well.
What time zone? It’s good you will be able to see the BG the first few hours at night. You might want to get an auto feeder to set at night for later in the cycle if the before bed test is low and if you work away from home.
 
You are never a pain. I was watching a basketball game and fed my cats. I’m not getting responses or tags from other earlier posts but am getting yours. Nice time for me to eat. I’ll check back. Do you know where she lives?
 
tiffmaxee said:
You are never a pain. I was watching a basketball game and fed my cats. I’m not getting responses or tags from other earlier posts but am getting yours. Nice time for me to eat. I’ll check back. Do you know where she lives?
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Thanks Elise ,I'll ask her where she lives ,dumb me forgot about the time zones
When I hear something I'll tag you, enjoy the game :bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
tiffmaxee said:
Freeze dried is not dry food. Make sure you rehydrate it. I think Ziwi makes canned as well.
What time zone? It’s good you will be able to see the BG the first few hours at night. You might want to get an auto feeder to set at night for later in the cycle if the before bed test is low and if you work away from home.
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I'm Pacific time zone. I have two other cats so auto feeder is tough to do.
 
Sara K said:
Oh cool so I would do that in the morning too? Also I would take that out of the meal I mix together for the day right?
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Yes add some water to every meal, what do you mean take that out of the meal you mix together for the day
I think I know what you mean now, if he has a little bit left over from his morning meal ,yes then give the rest to him as his snack around +2 or +3.
If he eats it all then just then just give him a snack , you don't have to save some of the food from his morning meal
@Sara K
 
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Sara K said:
So just so I'm understanding, how often do I have to test with TR?
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I'd you see what Elise said in post #41
Here it is
TR as long as you can get an amps/pmps and at least one other test each cycle. When the bg is low you will need more tests. You will also need occasional test to find out how low a dose takes Brady. You test enough for TR.
With TR reductions are taken under 50.
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Yes add some water to every meal, what do you mean take that out of the meal you mix together for the day
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I mix together his meal of 1 pouch of bff turkey and chicken, tiki cat compliments chicken and chicken broth and 21 grams of ziwi peak in the morning and split it up into two meals for morning and night. He struggles to eat it all so I was wondering if I could use a couple tablespoons of it for the snacks.
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
I'd you see what Elise said in post #41
Here it is
TR as long as you can get an amps/pmps and at least one other test each cycle. When the bg is low you will need more tests. You will also need occasional test to find out how low a dose takes Brady. You test enough for TR.
With TR reductions are taken under 50.
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Oh ok yeah that makes sense. I test like 15 times a day. Lol... I'm a little obsessed with knowing his glucose numbers.
 
Sara K said:
Oh ok yeah that makes sense. I test like 15 times a day. Lol... I'm a little obsessed with knowing his glucose numbers.
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Ok so you are going to follow TR correct, do you work?
Do me a favor when we reply to one of your post , so we know you saw it please hit the like word to the right.
Can you add TR to your signature and SS
If you go with TR you can start posting on the lantus forum and just introduce yourself and say you were posting on the Health Forum
I'll show you how we post on the lantus forum in a few
Let me know so I can tag Elise
@tiffmaxee

Elise she's Pacific time
If Sara goes with TR I see you said

If TR let’s try .50 since you did see green there. It might have been influenced by the 1.0 but we don’t know. If it’s too little we. An go up in 3 days. If .25 you hold the .25 for 7 days from the drop under 90.

Should she still go with .50 tonight?
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Ok so you are going to follow TR correct, do you work?
Do me a favor when we reply to one of your post , so we know you saw it please hit the like word to the right.
Can you add TR to your signature and SS
If you go with TR you can start posting on the lantus forum and just introduce yourself and say you were posting on the Health Forum
I'll show you how we post on the lantus forum in a few
Let me know so I can tag Elise
@tiffmaxee

Elise she's Pacific time
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Yeah I'll do TR. I'll add it to both and hit like. Yeah I work part time at home.
 
Sara K said:
Yeah I'll do TR. I'll add it to both and hit like. Yeah I work part time at home.
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Great , and great that you're home
Elise you said above


If TR let’s try .50 since you did see green there. It might have been influenced by the 1.0 but we don’t know. If it’s too little we. An go up in 3 days. If .25 you hold the .25 for 7 days from the drop under 90.

So go with .50 tonight
@tiffmaxee
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
Great , and great that you're home
Elise you said above


If TR let’s try .50 since you did see green there. It might have been influenced by the 1.0 but we don’t know. If it’s too little we. An go up in 3 days. If .25 you hold the .25 for 7 days from the drop under 90.

So go with .50 tonight
@tiffmaxee
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Ok I will do .50 tonight. How much of his food does he have to eat in order to get the insulin? Most the time he can finish most of it but sometimes like this morning he only eats like half of it.
 
It depends. Since Lantus onsets around +2, if the +2 is lower than the pmps, it’s likely to be an active cycle. If higher it’s not necessary. Will you be shooting at 8 tonight? Post the pmps and let’s see it
 
Sara K said:
Ok I will do .50 tonight. How much of his food does he have to eat in order to get the insulin? Most the time he can finish most of it but sometimes like this morning he only eats like half of it.
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I would usually feed Tyler a half a can of Fancy Feast Pate , can is 3 ounces or a little more.
Lantus usually doesn't kick in until around +2 so as long as you know he'll eat by then it's fine.
Do you have the syringes with the half unit markings
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
I would usually feed Tyler a half a can of Fancy Feast Pate , can is 3 ounces or a little more.
Lantus usually doesn't kick in until around +2 so as long as you know he'll eat by then it's fine.
Do you have the syringes with the half unit markings
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I did, but I ran out and couldn't find more of them in town. I ordered more half marked syringes off chewy they'll be here Wednesday.
 
tiffmaxee said:
It depends. Since Lantus onsets around +2, if the +2 is lower than the pmps, it’s likely to be an active cycle. If higher it’s not necessary. Will you be shooting at 8 tonight? Post the pmps and let’s see it
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I'm a bit late tonight, but he'll be eating soon and usually he takes like 30 minutes to eat so I'll give his shot after that.
 
PMPS is bg before eating dinner. We suggest you test, feed, shoot all within 5-10 minutes. Waiting 30 minutes is too long. You test before they eat. You feed just to see that they will eat. Then you shoot. You can even shoot while he’s eating.
 
tiffmaxee said:
PMPS is bg before eating dinner. We suggest you test, feed, shoot all within 5-10 minutes. Waiting 30 minutes is too long. You test before they eat. You feed just to see that they will eat. Then you shoot. You can even shoot while he’s eating.
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Oh that's right. Sorry all the abbreviations are confusing me a bit. It takes him so long because usually I have to sit and beg him to eat all this food. It's pretty awful. I'm not sure what to do about it. Btw, he's eating right now and his blood sugar before eating was 240.
 
He's 21 pounds and his doctor said to feed him 280 calories so it takes a lot of food to get to 280.
 
tiffmaxee said:
It will be much easier if you sure add out the meals rather than try to get him to eat it all in two meals. It will also level out his bg.

You can shoot now.
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Oh ya definitely! The doctor kept telling me he can only have two meals no snacks so that's what I've been trying to do and it's really rough to get a cat to eat only two meals a day. Brady loves to eat too, but it's so much food at once. I'm going to try giving him a tablespoon and a half as a snack just like you guys were saying. I can't wait to get my syringes with the half marker because not having a half marker makes me question myself pretty bad. I gave the .5 unit shot.
 
What the hell is going on with these tags members not getting them :rolleyes:
Sara K said:
e's 21 pounds and his doctor said to feed him 280 calories so it takes a lot of food to get to 280.
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He's a big kitty :p
The rule of thumb is about 20 calories per pound of ideal weight.
Is Brady overweight? So if you vet said to feed 280 calories he probably wants him down to around 14 lbs because
20x14=280 calories
 
Diane Tyler's Mom said:
What the hell is going on with these tags members not getting them :rolleyes:

He's a big kitty :p
The rule of thumb is about 20 calories per pound of ideal weight.
Is Brady overweight? So if you vet said to feed 280 calories he probably wants him down to around 14 lbs because
20x14=280 calories
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Yup he is overweight, but also pretty big boned for a cat. Doctor said she was aiming for 18 pounds and to give him 280 calories.
 
Sara Elise gave you the link on how to post on the lantus forum
Read it but I'll just give you an example just in case
We do a new post every day like this
Example
The Date, then Brady, then AMPS # then any other tests you do after that
Continue with PMPS # and any other test you want to add to it

After you post on the lantus board you will link this post to it , the previous post is all the way up top above the picture of the cat in that long box , do you see it, it starts with https://www.feline diabetes.com
You just copy and paste it to tomorrows condo or thread meaning your post
Do this everyday in case a member wants to go back and look at it.
I'll check in tomorrow to see how you did it
 
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