New mon fighting FD

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To make a new post for today, go to the main page of the Lantus forumhttps://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/lantus-basaglar-glargine-and-levemir-detemir.9/ and press the Post New Thread button.

For your thread title, please use the following format:
"DATE, NAME OF KITTY" and then all of your testing numbers. For example, today's thread title would read:
6-10 Money AMPS-180 put some of his BG results, then at night you do PMPS- and his BG number all in the same title
Then you can link
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new-mon-fighting-fd.247271/#post-2802171
It's all the way up at the top of this page above the pic of the kitty , you just tap in it and hit copy and paste
Which is all of these posts in case members want to go back and read these
Then for tomorrow on the Lantus forum you would go to where it says start a new thread on the right hand side tap on it and put
6-11 Money AMPS - then his BG number then where you would start to write something you would first paste the link from 6-10 which is the one above the pic of the cat copy and paste it and put it where you would start to write anything you want to

We do this so if someone wants to see the day before all they have to do is tap that and it will bring them to the day before

If you need help let's say with advice on dosing , after you would put the date , Money ,AMPS what ever it is here is an example only
6-10 Money AMPS-108 NEED HELP WITH DOSE
If you might think his number is too low to give insulin you would write this in the area where you would ask any questions
I hope this helps
Nice blues for him so far :cat:
 
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Diane Tyler's Mom said:
To make a new post for today, go to the main page of the Lantus forumhttps://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/forums/lantus-basaglar-glargine-and-levemir-detemir.9/ and press the Post New Thread button.

For your thread title, please use the following format:
"DATE, NAME OF KITTY" and then all of your testing numbers. For example, today's thread title would read:
6-10 Money AMPS-180 put some of his BG results, then at night you do PMPS- and his BG number all in the same title
Then you can link
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new-mon-fighting-fd.247271/#post-2802171
It's all the way up at the top of this page above the pic of the kitty , you just tap in it and hit copy and paste
Which is all of these posts in case members want to go back and read these
Then for tomorrow on the Lantus forum you would go to where it says start a new thread on the right hand side tap on it and put
6-11 Money AMPS - then his BG number then where you would start to write something you would first paste the link from 6-10 which is the one above the pic of the cat copy and paste it and put it where you would start to write anything you want to

We do this so if someone wants to see the day before all they have to do is tap that and it will bring them to the day before

If you need help let's say with advice on dosing , after you would put the date , Money ,AMPS what ever it is here is an example only
6-10 Money AMPS-108 NEED HELP WITH DOSE
If you might think his number is too low to give insulin you would write this in the area where you would ask any questions
I hope this helps
Nice blues for him so far :cat:
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Thanks I will do it tonight after I get my pmps and testing …. Hopefully I will get sum help with wat to do next …. I’m happy cuz her numbers are looking much better then I beginning but now what the next step is idk …
 
Emily + Zen said:
:woot: Amazing-- thank you!!! @Bandit's Mom -- would it make sense to post that in this forum, or is there a better place?
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Hey I just wanted to ask since u use the libre … is there a difference between libre numbers and ear pricks? And if so what are they ? I’m asking cuz when I was using Libre numbers were higher .. for the last 10days I’ve been using a contour next and number are good !?! I’m wondering if she’s actually stabilizing or if it’s due to change of testing method …
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Post what?
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Roxanne has purchased vetbond and would like to apply a Libre to Money at home. I asked if she would be willing to share her experience with everyone, because I've not seem much information on it, other than one video of someone applying it to the back of their cat's neck, and I think there were some shots missing from it, too. I think there's an opportunity for some good documentation here. I'm just curious if you (or anyone else) has an opinion on whether that belongs in this forum or elsewhere.


Roxy450 said:
Hey I just wanted to ask since u use the libre … is there a difference between libre numbers and ear pricks? And if so what are they ? I’m asking cuz when I was using Libre numbers were higher .. for the last 10days I’ve been using a contour next and number are good !?! I’m wondering if she’s actually stabilizing or if it’s due to change of testing method …
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That's a really good question! The short answer is that there is always a level of variance between meters-- I want to say typically up to 20%, but one of the veterans is going to have to confirm that. That's true from one meter to another, and even one ear prick to another. I've been doing a bit of research on this myself, and honestly, there isn't a good answer to "by how much"-- unfortunately, that varies as well. I'm about to do a pretty big data dump of Freestyle data vs ear prick data so I'll have a better answer for you after that, but anecdotally, I can tell you that there doesn't seem to be any kind of hard and fast rule. There's also another interesting factoid to keep in mind: the Libre is typically about 10 minutes behind an ear prick. That's because it reads from the interstitial fluid instead of the blood. Libre has a really good article on it here. I wish I had a more straightforward answer for you, but the bottom line is that (generally speaking) one human meter (ear prick or freestyle) should have around the same measure of accuracy as most any other. But the Freestyle is going to be behind an ear prick by a few minutes.
 
Ok well I think what I’ll do is that when I do install the libre I will do wat pricks testing at same time as libre check to see the difference that way I’ll know and maybe help sum1 else as well !! I do agree there’s not much info on the Libre and I read that article about it being in the interstial blood so maybe wat I’ll do is take that into consideration when testing both thanks great idea !!! Do u ear prick at all or only Libre ?
 
Emily + Zen said:
Oh, @Roxy450 , before I forget, if you ever need to remove a Libre, coconut oil works great to help remove it!
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Cool thx !!!! I’m kinda nervous about removing another one :( also great trick some1 told me if ur Libre ever stops working or Zen removes it call libre and tell them it stopped working .. they don’t ask if it’s a cat … lol and they will replace it for free if u send them back the “defective” one I called for the last one that she removed after 5days and I received a new one in mail couple days ago !!! At 120$ each … i was sooo appreciative !!!
 
Roxy450 said:
Ok well I think what I’ll do is that when I do install the libre I will do wat pricks testing at same time as libre check to see the difference that way I’ll know and maybe help sum1 else as well !! I do agree there’s not much info on the Libre and I read that article about it being in the interstial blood so maybe wat I’ll do is take that into consideration when testing both thanks great idea !!! Do u ear prick at all or only Libre ?
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We would always do an ear prick if we had any reason to believe the Libre might be wrong (it has that little blood drop icon when it recommends you follow up with a blood glucose reading), or if Zen was ever really high or really low. Basically, if it was anything other than business-as-usual, Zen got an ear prick. Where the Libre really helped was to 1) monitor overnight and to 2) look at trends in his data. When we fed him, we could see how much the food bumped up his glucose, and when we gave insulin, we could see how long it took to take effect, and how long it took to get to nadir.
 
Roxy450 said:
Ok great and did u ever notice a difference in rates ?
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Yep! When he was low, the ear prick was sometimes different by more than 20 points, and when he was high, by more than 100 points (remember the 20% rule...if Zen was 500 on the Libre, 500 * 1.2 = 600)
 
Here is comparison of Badger's Libre and my iHealth human meter. Note that which read higher changed over time. The verticle lines for each point show what a +/- 20% variance would be.
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That's a great chart, @Larry and Kitties! Did you just use Excel to generate it? I'm planning to put a similar one together (though I hadn't planned to do the error bands-- love that!) with those, plus an Alpha Track.

Interesting note: Zen's Libre was almost always a tiny bit lower than his BG meter, except for the rare occasions that he dropped into the 40's (and one time into the 30's). When he dropped that low, the Libre and the BG meter typically inverted for me: the Libre read higher and the ear prick read lower. I always erred on the side of the lower reading, for safety's sake.
 
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