CBD Oil to calm/relax aggressive cat?

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Patrick_Bateman

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Hi, new here so I apologize if I'm not doing this right, i did a search in the group and found most topics about CBD Oil for Cats are all several years old and closed and focus more on pain relief/arthritis, appetite, cancer etc...

I was wondering if anyone here has tried to use CBD Oil for an aggressive cat that is extremely difficult when it comes to getting her insulin shots? My vet prescribed her Gabapentin to calm her down, but the dose seems like WAY too much imo (2ML is nearly half of the syringe to feed through her mouth, and that's supposed to be given 2 hours before every shot, which is twice a day.. even the receptionist was like that seems like a lot..maybe give her 1ML and wait a bit before giving her the second) I want to look into CBD as an alternative, as I don't feel comfortable with Gabapentin especially in the long run..

My Cat is extremely difficult when it comes to any treatment, and the SPCA is saying if we can't get her insulin injections under control and in routine, to not even miss a single shot, the next course will be to euthanize since no shelter will take her due to her diabetes and extreme temperament which I am 100% against... she's 8 and her only symptom is peeing/drinking a lot...it's not like she's 17+ and suffering so I DON'T want euthanasia to even be considered, but we're running out of options. Please try not to judge or be too harsh, it's been a really rough couple months and I already left the facebook group in fear that even the mention of euthanasia would lead to harsh criticizing seeing how some people there comment on other people's posts sometimes. I have a severe Anxiety disorder myself, and am already on the edge, pretty much breaking down at least once a day so I really don't need to be judged, just helped/educated.
 
Try gaba pills. Usually it's 1/4-1/2 a pill sprinkled on food. It's hardly anything at all and my cat doesn't notice it there.
Also some have success with feliway diffusers. It helps my six get along better, but don't know if it would help with shot calmness.
If your cat is food motivated maybe do the shot while he's eating. What size gauge needle is it? A thinner size might help too. Which insulin are you using and what is the dose?

I've used cbd oil for pain but not sure it had much effect. Didn't try it for your issue but it couldn't hurt to try it.
 
I've tried everything, towels scare her and piss her off if you touch her while she's towel'd, burrito doesn't really work because her head is still exposed and she'll swing it back and snap/bite when i try to just tent her fur. For food, she'll just stop eating if she gets annoyed or feels uncomfortable and will only go back to finish her food when everyone leaves the kitchen for a min or 2. The Vet showed me a way to do it with the towel just above her head, covering her neck, but when she was at the vet showing us my cat was on the table, with 2 strangers and me in the room with her, she was pissed and hissing, but wasn't going anywhere. i tried it at home that same night alone and she whipped up so fast i bent the needle ( on myself ) and stabbed my hand...

Gaba pills wasn't working because she'd just eat around the effected food and when we tried to put some in a syringe and force feed a bit she just spit it up. I even put a drop of warm water on a freeze dried piece of chicken treat, and infused the powder all over the treat, she wouldn't even try it and she loves those treats.. which is why i opted to change to liquid gaba, but that seems like a LOT for once dose, 2 times a day...I'm hoping others in here have tried CBD for the reason I'm trying. The ONLY thing I need her to do is let me give her the shots alone without biting me/going straight wolverine on me, i even let her sniff the needle to get associated with it but hasn't helped much.

her dose is 2 units of Caninsulin ( i know, it's not ideal, but we're sticking with this for now ) as when we DO get her shots she seems better, it's just when i try to do it alone it pisses her off to the point where when i finally ask my dad for help to hold her down we've already wasted a needle and shot due to the insulin separating in the needle, and she's at her peak aggression. We've only ever missed 2 shots in a month due to her being too aggressive, but my dad's leaving soon for a month so i'll be alone with her and NEED to do it myself. I'm legit looking for any solution that's safe at this point.
 
Patrick_Bateman said:
I've tried everything, towels scare her and piss her off if you touch her while she's towel'd, burrito doesn't really work because her head is still exposed and she'll swing it back and snap/bite when i try to just tent her fur. For food, she'll just stop eating if she gets annoyed or feels uncomfortable and will only go back to finish her food when everyone leaves the kitchen for a min or 2. The Vet showed me a way to do it with the towel just above her head, covering her neck, but when she was at the vet showing us my cat was on the table, with 2 strangers and me in the room with her, she was pissed and hissing, but wasn't going anywhere. i tried it at home that same night alone and she whipped up so fast i bent the needle ( on myself ) and stabbed my hand...

Gaba pills wasn't working because she'd just eat around the effected food and when we tried to put some in a syringe and force feed a bit she just spit it up. I even put a drop of warm water on a freeze dried piece of chicken treat, and infused the powder all over the treat, she wouldn't even try it and she loves those treats.. which is why i opted to change to liquid gaba, but that seems like a LOT for once dose, 2 times a day...I'm hoping others in here have tried CBD for the reason I'm trying. The ONLY thing I need her to do is let me give her the shots alone without biting me/going straight wolverine on me, i even let her sniff the needle to get associated with it but hasn't helped much.

her dose is 2 units of Caninsulin ( i know, it's not ideal, but we're sticking with this for now ) as when we DO get her shots she seems better, it's just when i try to do it alone it pisses her off to the point where when i finally ask my dad for help to hold her down we've already wasted a needle and shot due to the insulin separating in the needle, and she's at her peak aggression. We've only ever missed 2 shots in a month due to her being too aggressive, but my dad's leaving soon for a month so i'll be alone with her and NEED to do it myself. I'm legit looking for any solution that's safe at this point.
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It's so hard when they are semi feral like this. I would have an awful time of it if it were my cat Julie who needed shots. Maybe ask the dr if an anxiety me like Prozac would help. (I almost put Julie on it at one point)
 
Patrick_Bateman said:
I've tried everything, towels scare her and piss her off if you touch her while she's towel'd, burrito doesn't really work because her head is still exposed and she'll swing it back and snap/bite when i try to just tent her fur. For food, she'll just stop eating if she gets annoyed or feels uncomfortable and will only go back to finish her food when everyone leaves the kitchen for a min or 2. The Vet showed me a way to do it with the towel just above her head, covering her neck, but when she was at the vet showing us my cat was on the table, with 2 strangers and me in the room with her, she was pissed and hissing, but wasn't going anywhere. i tried it at home that same night alone and she whipped up so fast i bent the needle ( on myself ) and stabbed my hand...

Gaba pills wasn't working because she'd just eat around the effected food and when we tried to put some in a syringe and force feed a bit she just spit it up. I even put a drop of warm water on a freeze dried piece of chicken treat, and infused the powder all over the treat, she wouldn't even try it and she loves those treats.. which is why i opted to change to liquid gaba, but that seems like a LOT for once dose, 2 times a day...I'm hoping others in here have tried CBD for the reason I'm trying. The ONLY thing I need her to do is let me give her the shots alone without biting me/going straight wolverine on me, i even let her sniff the needle to get associated with it but hasn't helped much.

her dose is 2 units of Caninsulin ( i know, it's not ideal, but we're sticking with this for now ) as when we DO get her shots she seems better, it's just when i try to do it alone it pisses her off to the point where when i finally ask my dad for help to hold her down we've already wasted a needle and shot due to the insulin separating in the needle, and she's at her peak aggression. We've only ever missed 2 shots in a month due to her being too aggressive, but my dad's leaving soon for a month so i'll be alone with her and NEED to do it myself. I'm legit looking for any solution that's safe at this point.
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You can convert the dose to use a u100 syringe that would be thinner if you think that would help.
 
Have you tried Rescue Remedy? You can put it in food, water or just rub it on them.

Also cats can pick up on your stress and it will cause them to be more stressed. I know it is difficult, but you need to also be calm when giving shots. Try singing when doing it. Yes it sounds funny but it is hard to be stressed when you are singing, especially if it is a funny song or one you like.

Also try rewarding her with a special low carb treat when you give her insulin. A good one is freeze dried chicken or tuna flakes. Only give it then, even if you are not successful. She will soon associate the shot with something pleasant like getting the treat.
 
Lisa and Witn (GA) said:
Have you tried Rescue Remedy? You can put it in food, water or just rub it on them.

Also cats can pick up on your stress and it will cause them to be more stressed. I know it is difficult, but you need to also be calm when giving shots. Try singing when doing it. Yes it sounds funny but it is hard to be stressed when you are singing, especially if it is a funny song or one you like.

Also try rewarding her with a special low carb treat when you give her insulin. A good one is freeze dried chicken or tuna flakes. Only give it then, even if you are not successful. She will soon associate the shot with something pleasant like getting the treat.
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i'll try singing. I give her freeze dried chicken treats after every single shot, for the past month. she likes the treat after, still hates the shot before lol i'll look into Rescue Remedy as well.
 
I found this on amazon, does it look safe for a diabetic cat? ( I'm awful with numbers and units.. ) Snoop's about 14 pounds, she's lost like .8 pounds since she started treatment in early Feb ( which the vet said is good, slow weight loss is better than rapid )
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Patrick_Bateman said:
i'll try singing. I give her freeze dried chicken treats after every single shot, for the past month. she likes the treat after, still hates the shot before lol i'll look into Rescue Remedy as well.
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Maybe give a piece just before the shot.... Inject while eating, then another treat after
 
JanetNJ said:
Maybe give a piece just before the shot.... Inject while eating, then another treat after
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I've tried, just like with her food, she'll either stop eating the second you you try to tent her fur, or she'll gobble it up quick, and turn around for a quick swipe/bite and hiss before running away.

I've even tried giving a couple pieces broken up into smaller bits, but at the same time I don't want her to think she's getting rewarded for not cooperating... Food doesn't work ,I need something to calm her down/relax her. She's always been a high anxiety cat when it comes to stuff like this, and just life in general, someone knocks on the door she instantly knows it's not someone she recognizes and hides under the bed. she even hides from my sister when she comes to visit on the rare occasion. She's scared of my father because she never bonded with him, and can tolerate him in the background, but typically hates and is scared of anyone who isn't me, except when it comes to injections :\
 
Patrick, how did the SPCA make this their business? We've all known other people who think they know what's best and are a bit too eager to rat you out. A few years ago some of us were involved in the "Joe" conspiracy because a member's vet was going to have his cat taken away. The member had to hide the cat, delete his account and start again under a new name. If this all sounds too weird it's a well known fact here that two of our cats were confiscated by us from truly idiotic neighbors. I also have a harmless but nutty stalker from my past life so very few people here know what city I live in etc. It would not take much effort by some hater in your Facebook group to track you down here.
I get the anxiety thing, it's not just you and you wouldn't be here unless you cared about your cat. Your profile is not a secret and I already know your name and birthday.
And we don't shame people here, we're here for your cat but you have to take care of yourself first.
Think about asking for a board member's advice and know that you can start over again under a different name and have your profile hidden. It sounds crazy but it's happened before.
 
No one is taking my cat away from me lol if people in this group are that fanatical then i'll just leave and seek advice/ help elsewhere. I left the facebook group ( not my facebook group, i'm talking about THIS FDMB's Facebook group..) because some of the people there are just very judgmental or come off snobby, weather they're trying to or not, but no one was threatening or violent. I'm doing the best I can for my cat, I never free fed her before she was diagnosed, and THOUGHT at least that I was doing well buying Hills Science Diet Perfect Weight, but since she's indoor and doesn't socialize with my dad, i guess her lack of exercise was too much, since she sleeps in my room the entire time i'm at work. We literally went and continue to go above and beyond for this cat, if someone wants to tell me i aint doing enough or come here and try to take her from me they'll be getting a visit from my metal bat lol

the whole point of this post is if anyone has used CBD oil to calm their overly aggressive cat and how it worked out for them. if no one has any experience to share then i'll just figure it out myself. If i need to make "secret" profiles and what not though then i'm out. Patrick isn't my name by the way and from what i looked under my info aside from a random birthday my name doesn't look like it's shown anywhere.
 
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Patrick, no one here is fanatical. Everyone here is a volunteer and we're all in the same leaky boat. On weekends and holidays there are fewer members on-line to see your posts so this might take a few days. We're all on the same team and it's the best team there is.
 
i don't mean you lol you were the one warning me about maybe changing my name and making everything secret/starting over with a new profile and stuff so i'm saying IF there's any fanatical nuts in here who want to try something they got another thing coming. SPCA made it their business because that's where we took her for treatment, since our first vet who was a bit closer to where we live had a really thick accent and because of the language barrier we weren't confident in what he was telling us, since he told us to do one thing the first day, and then changed his mind to something completely different the next day and we only found out he changed the treatment after we called to get a bit more advice on her feeding regime. If we never called, we would've been doing it wrong, so we left.
 
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Patrick, I do not have any experience with using CBD oil to calm a cat. That CBD oil you included in the pictures looked like a reasonable CBD oil to try.

I do know of a well written document by one of our members, Kpassa that talks about how to approach the insulin shots and the testing in a more "rational" or gentle manner. Would you be interested in the link to that document? It's a more gentle approach, I think of it as the "cat whisperer" approach to shots. Using psychology on your cat.

NO ONE, Absolutely no one here will ever try to take your cat away from you Patrick. You can be assured of that.
We try to help people with their diabetic cats, not shame them. So sorry you encountered that situation.

Sometimes, the way we say things can be misconstrued. Our written styles are so different than our "speaking voices." Myself, I'm a "just the facts mam" type of poster.

I don't like some of the way things are said over in our Facebook group either. I could name a couple of people there that come off as very snobby and judgmental. Ignore them. If you have a problem with someone there, report them to the moderators or the administrator. IMMEDIATELY. If it's one of the administrators, Robert J. or Chris R. I don't know what your option would be. Well, actually I do, report them to the moderators here on the FDMB message board.

There is a "Report" button here too. It's right after the time and date at the bottom of your thread, over on the left hand side there, over by your avatar. Wanted to point that out to you. In case you ever felt you were being "hassled".
 
Okay, I get that. We have to call you something so we'll just stick with Patrick, it's a nice name anyways.
That wasn't some BS story I told you about the stolen cats or my own anxiety issues, I've got the whole package and pretty much everyone here knows it. I know the world can be a nasty place but you won't find that here. All you have to do in return is have some patience and remember we get as many as 10 new members every day so problems that aren't 911 can take awhile.
I've got my own problems in the house right now so I'm not hanging you out to dry, I just don't have the medical knowledge to answer your questions.
Are we cool with that?
 
Noah & me (GA) said:
Okay, I get that. We have to call you something so we'll just stick with Patrick, it's a nice name anyways.
That wasn't some BS story I told you about the stolen cats or my own anxiety issues, I've got the whole package and pretty much everyone here knows it. I know the world can be a nasty place but you won't find that here. All you have to do in return is have some patience and remember we get as many as 10 new members every day so problems that aren't 911 can take awhile.
I've got my own problems in the house right now so I'm not hanging you out to dry, I just don't have the medical knowledge to answer your questions.
Are we cool with that?
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oh yeah we're cool and i aint sweatin on how long it takes to get a reply, i know there's people from all over the world, different time zones and stuff. I wasn't looking for an answer right away, i just thought the topic was going a little left field is all. I was making a point the replies I'm really looking for are only about CBD Oil and peoples experience, as I'm aware of the basic's and have tried many variants of them. I also believe what you're saying and your experience is true, I was just getting the point across that if that kinda thing IS going to happen towards me, i'll just simply leave, so no need to worry haha
 
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Deb & Wink said:
Patrick, I do not have any experience with using CBD oil to calm a cat. That CBD oil you included in the pictures looked like a reasonable CBD oil to try.

I do know of a well written document by one of our members, Kpassa that talks about how to approach the insulin shots and the testing in a more "rational" or gentle manner. Would you be interested in the link to that document? It's a more gentle approach, I think of it as the "cat whisperer" approach to shots. Using psychology on your cat.

NO ONE, Absolutely no one here will ever try to take your cat away from you Patrick. You can be assured of that.
We try to help people with their diabetic cats, not shame them. So sorry you encountered that situation.

Sometimes, the way we say things can be misconstrued. Our written styles are so different than our "speaking voices." Myself, I'm a "just the facts mam" type of poster.

I don't like some of the way things are said over in our Facebook group either. I could name a couple of people there that come off as very snobby and judgmental. Ignore them. If you have a problem with someone there, report them to the moderators or the administrator. IMMEDIATELY. If it's one of the administrators, Robert J. or Chris R. I don't know what your option would be. Well, actually I do, report them to the moderators here on the FDMB message board.

There is a "Report" button here too. It's right after the time and date at the bottom of your thread, over on the left hand side there, over by your avatar. Wanted to point that out to you. In case you ever felt you were being "hassled".
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THANK YOU FOR THE REPLY <3 I will gladly look over that document
 
So the document I mentioned, the "cat whisperer" approach to giving shots and home glucose testing. It's kind of hidden here in the Health Links/FAQ's forum within the Index sticky at the top, within the Hometesting links section of the Index. You'd probably bypass it on your own, if you didn't know where to find it.

Here it is:
•Ear Testing Psychology•

There are also Secondary Monitoring Tools that can be used instead of or in addition to home testing. Some people would consider this almost "sacrilegious" to even mention the possibility. But those tools do exist.

Secondary Monitoring Tools link.

p.s. 100% serious about reporting people over in the FelineDiabetes facebook group for bad behavior and nasty comments.
 
Cat Dickerson, who is in the Sugarcats Support Group, uses CBD oil for her cats that do not like each other. She says it calms them down. But it took some time to see that happen.
 
Sorry Deb, didn't get your tag.

Sorry Patrick I don't have any tried and true solutions. I knew what had to be done for my cat's health and life and I bit the bullet and did what needed to be done.
Did I get scratched and bit ? Heck yeah, big time !!!
I wore a sweatshirt to protect my arms and winter gloves to protect my hands. I still got injured but not as badly.
I just held him down and did the deed.
Took about 6 weeks for him to realize I wasn't giving up. I told him numerous times that this is his new normal. He still will fight me on occasion, but he knows I won't give in.
Guess I'm just and old stubborn fool.
Hang in there. If I can do it, you can too.
 
Susan & Claudio said:
Sorry Deb, didn't get your tag.

Sorry Patrick I don't have any tried and true solutions. I knew what had to be done for my cat's health and life and I bit the bullet and did what needed to be done.
Did I get scratched and bit ? Heck yeah, big time !!!
I wore a sweatshirt to protect my arms and winter gloves to protect my hands. I still got injured but not as badly.
I just held him down and did the deed.
Took about 6 weeks for him to realize I wasn't giving up. I told him numerous times that this is his new normal. He still will fight me on occasion, but he knows I won't give in.
Guess I'm just and old stubborn fool.
Hang in there. If I can do it, you can too.
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I feel ya, it's more her safety I'm worried about than mine, had her bolt and worm her way out with a needle hanging off her back once, and the other night when i bent the needle on myself because of the flinch i thought it bent on her at first until i noticed i was the one bleeding. I know she's not going to just randomly be a saint, but if i can find something that helps calm her even a little bit I want to try. I'll try the oil myself and see if it helps at all. I'm off work right now while i get things sorted out with her, that won't last forever though. once we get a regime that works for us i'll be able to go back. We've only missed a few shots to be honest, 90% of the shots she gets. It's just every time she gets her shot it's me and someone else holding her down, that someone else isn't as committed though and won't be here forever so it's just the one-on-one shots i'm having issue with. Once I can master giving her the shot alone, we'll be golden.
 
Have you tried giving her something to eat like a special treat. She may be more into the treat instead of what you're doing.
The only treat my cat likes is sardines. I know, yuk ! But if he's into eating a couple of them, he hardly notices what I'm doing.
He has come to learn testing/shots equals 2 sardines.
Worth a try. You'll be surprised how creative you can be to find what works best for you and your kitty.
Best of luck :bighug:
 
Well Patrick, those were my best shots at getting you help here.
Do go back and read through that Ear Testing Psychology document and learn to be a "Kitty Whisperer." I do think you will find it helpful.
It's basically, making your cat feel safe in their own space and training them in little steps by little step.

Tiki Cat has a mackeral and sardines food, Makaha Grill. Stinks up the whole house, but my cat gets it as a treat.
 
Susan & Claudio said:
Have you tried giving her something to eat like a special treat. She may be more into the treat instead of what you're doing.
The only treat my cat likes is sardines. I know, yuk ! But if he's into eating a couple of them, he hardly notices what I'm doing.
He has come to learn testing/shots equals 2 sardines.
Worth a try. You'll be surprised how creative you can be to find what works best for you and your kitty.
Best of luck :bighug:
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Yeah i've tried when she eats and giving her treats before, during and after shots, I replied somewhere above she'll either stop eating and walk away or she'll eat really fast and then attack. or in cases where we give the shot and give her a treat after, she'll eat the treat but she hasn't made the connection of " if i just sit and let them do what they're going to do, which takes 2 seconds, i'll get my treat after" I wish she was as mindless/carefree as other cats, she's always been a bit of a panic fiend though. even before her diagnosis, if she was eating and my dad would walk into the kitchen, she'd stop and leave, wait for him leave, and then go back to finish her food. When i'm at work since i work nights sometimes i'll get my dad to feed her if i know ill be a little late, he'll do it, but she usually wont eat until I get home. Other times ( again this is all before her diagnosis ) when we'd vacation for a week or 2 and board her at a kennel, every single time we pick her up after they say she hated every second being there and barely eats...she's a special cat to say the least.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Well Patrick, those were my best shots at getting you help here.
Do go back and read through that Ear Testing Psychology document and learn to be a "Kitty Whisperer." I do think you will find it helpful.
It's basically, making your cat feel safe in their own space and training them in little steps by little step.

Tiki Cat has a mackeral and sardines food, Makaha Grill. Stinks up the whole house, but my cat gets it as a treat.
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I am reading through it. thanks again!
 
To the best of my recollection, there have been some members who have used CBD more for pain than anxiety. If you have a holistic vet in your area, you might see if they recommend a particular brand of CBD. Since the products aren't regulated by the FDA, I'd want to make sure you're getting a reputable brand.

One other option to try is a "gadget" called Clipnosis. It's almost like a human hair clip that you can use to scruff your cat. It was actually developed at a vet school. The other somewhat similar option is to use clothes pins to scruff.
 
Thanks! I'll definitely look into a Clipnosis, maybe it'll help.

Edit: Oh my god this looks incredible. and it looks like it tents the skin perfect too! I know it won't be no miracle worker, but it looks like a safe, inexpensive contraption and if i can avoid any drugs or oils i'm definitely game!
 
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What is your opinion on these? I think I am the problem, I can't get my nerves straightened out. Had an Anxiety disorder pretty much all my life but got worse about 10 years ago. I need to take Ativan just to leave the house to go to work ( when i do work ) sometimes. I've gotten used to the thought of having to give her injections and am committed, but can't get past how aggressive she can be, instead of Oil's and things to "drug" her I wanna stick with more practical things, i have a puffy jacket for my arms, i feel 2 of these outta be alright, you think? I also ordered the Clipnosis clips from Amazon, got them today but i want to get her used to them before i try them right away.

https://www.amazon.ca/NoCry-Cut-Res...ance/dp/B00MXUHHGK/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20
 
Those gloves may work. Some positive and some negative reviews on amazon. Not very expensive, so they may be worth a try. They look thin enough to still allow you a good grip on the syringe.

PPG (personal protective gear) Leg and arm protection is a good idea too. Denim jeans and shirt, multiple layers.

Do you ever use something like mindfulness breathing to help with the anxiety? If you can calm yourself first, you won't transmit your emotions to your cat. Don't know if you ever did any acting, or performing on a stage, even back in grade school or high school. Or sang in a church choir in front of hundreds of people.

But you might want to consider approaching this situation, as an actor or singer would approach "stage fright". All anxious and jittery before going on stage, but knowing you have to put on "the performance of your life" to your audience. Your cat.

So she doesn't pick up on your fear. Sing. Sing a silly children's song like "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" or "99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" if you prefer. Paste a big grin or smile on your face, even if you don't feel like smiling. Then sing.

Being serious here Patrick. Not trying to make fun of the situation. Just brainstorming a bit.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Those gloves may work. Some positive and some negative reviews on amazon. Not very expensive, so they may be worth a try. They look thin enough to still allow you a good grip on the syringe.

PPG (personal protective gear) Leg and arm protection is a good idea too. Denim jeans and shirt, multiple layers.

Do you ever use something like mindfulness breathing to help with the anxiety? If you can calm yourself first, you won't transmit your emotions to your cat. Don't know if you ever did any acting, or performing on a stage, even back in grade school or high school. Or sang in a church choir in front of hundreds of people.

But you might want to consider approaching this situation, as an actor or singer would approach "stage fright". All anxious and jittery before going on stage, but knowing you have to put on "the performance of your life" to your audience. Your cat.

So she doesn't pick up on your fear. Sing. Sing a silly children's song like "Row, Row, Row Your Boat" or "99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall" if you prefer. Paste a big grin or smile on your face, even if you don't feel like smiling. Then sing.

Being serious here Patrick. Not trying to make fun of the situation. Just brainstorming a bit.
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I appreciate the help, unfortunately working on me and my issues is a bit more difficult than breathing/singing haha I do breathing exercises when i'm out, and at home sometimes, it's not all that effective though. I'm anxious all the time... My plan now is to wear my gear, and just do it quick, pet her while she's laying down, grab her tent while she hisses and quickly give the injection so it's all done quick and easy, then give her a treat. I've learned after these 2 months she's just never going to be accepting of them, I just have push through and get over my own fear and deal with her being a pain in the butt. She's typically always normal/fine right after no matter how angry she gets during, just gotta remember that. I'll try the glove, some people say it doesn't work. but they've tried stabbing it directly with knives, pretty sure my cat won't be able to bite through them..and they're not the super touch mesh metal ones that are out there so won't or shouldn't be harmful for her either!
 
Patrick_Bateman said:
I appreciate the help, unfortunately working on me and my issues is a bit more difficult than breathing/singing haha I do breathing exercises when i'm out, and at home sometimes, it's not all that effective though. I'm anxious all the time...
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Understood Patrick. I had a full blown panic attack at the dentist, during a filling.

Patrick_Bateman said:
I've learned after these 2 months she's just never going to be accepting of them, I just have push through and get over my own fear and deal with her being a pain in the butt. She's typically always normal/fine right after no matter how angry she gets during, just gotta remember that.
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Have you ever considered the Freestyle Libre monitor for your cat? It does not give insulin, but it does monitor the blood glucose levels. Expensive though. You can have it put on the cat by a vet, but it needs to be applied every 2 weeks.
 
Deb & Wink said:
Understood Patrick. I had a full blown panic attack at the dentist, during a filling.



Have you ever considered the Freestyle Libre monitor for your cat? It does not give insulin, but it does monitor the blood glucose levels. Expensive though. You can have it put on the cat by a vet, but it needs to be applied every 2 weeks.
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I was curious about that, but if it needs to be applied every 2 weeks then that's a no-go. She gets the most stressed when she needs to leave the house, the SPCA is about 45-1 hour away from where we live and I don't drive. I may look into it more though and do some research. Thanks for bringing it up!
 
I use CBD in all of my pets for multiple different reasons. I have taken educational courses and am a medical marijuana consultant and I can tell you it benefits most pets. Now as far as completely calming "sedation" it has potential. you may need to find the right dose for kitty which takes some trail and error. I personally have an aggressive cat. She hates the vet has clawed and bit several techs giving her cbd before appointments makes her alot more easy to handle. I'd reccomend rx vitamins CBD tincture.
 
Bear and the hooman Ciony said:
I use CBD in all of my pets for multiple different reasons. I have taken educational courses and am a medical marijuana consultant and I can tell you it benefits most pets. Now as far as completely calming "sedation" it has potential. you may need to find the right dose for kitty which takes some trail and error. I personally have an aggressive cat. She hates the vet has clawed and bit several techs giving her cbd before appointments makes her alot more easy to handle. I'd reccomend rx vitamins CBD tincture.
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is this the site/product? I've smoked CBD plants before, but never taken oil, is there still a strong herb scent/taste by any chance? ( I only ask because her nose is sensitive to herb smells, she gags even smelling Chicken Soup when I'm eating and she's curious lol and Catnip, although she still loves the catnip, occasionally she'll gag )

https://rx.zone/cbd_tincture_pure.html
 
I cant manage to find the site most naturopathic vets recommend it. But it runs pretty pricey. If you look up rx vitamins cbd the one that is a hemp tincture is the one they usually want you to go for. Keep in mind any good and safe cbd will be expensive. Here is the one I use :
https://www.austinandkat.com/collections/cbd-oils-for-dogs
I get the 300mg bottle. To make my cat more calm I give her .25mg wait 45 mins if that doesnt seem to be taking on effect I give .25 more but for starting off I would only go up by .10mg.
As far as taste my cat wont eat it in her food though here is salmon oil in it but she Iis finicky about her food. I syringe it to both my cats. Burrito the sassy one for her chill pill
 
We use the CBD/ hemp oil from ELLEVET.
my guy seems more mellow. He was never a feral cat, but he has hyperesthesia and it would cause him to lash out and be aggressive at time.
I just put the liquid drops in his food twice a day.
 
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