PMPS Dosing 11/16 Yoyo ,354,+1 297,+2 219 ,+3 199, +4 196, +5 184,+6 195, +8 249

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

So when I looked at the photos of the syringes the black rubber stopper, not sure what it is called, is just under the 1/2 unit marker LINE and just over the 1 unit marker LINE.

The black rubber stopper is called the plunger and you usually place the top of the plunger on the dose you want to give in your case I would place it right on the 1/2 unit marker but especially with this very small doses the important thing is that you always place it in the same point so that you are consistently giving the same dose even if is not exactly 1/2, some people just fill one syringe with colored water and use it as a pattern, in may case I marked it on a piece of paper that I placed on the fridge because I shoot in the kitchen and find it easier to compare if it is vertical so I fill the syringe and check it against the marks on the piece of paper

Please shed some light on feeding him during the night and the day times. I don't mean to interfere with his readings like I did at the +5 with food.LINE.

You can pretty much give him food at any time you just have to make sure to withdraw all the food 2 hours before the preshoot test to make sure his numbers are not food influenced and is safe to give insulin

Also thanks to the different timeline we are and the fact that I usually have to go to bed a bit late because I have to give meds and subqs to one of my cyvies (non diabetic cat) so I will probably be around pretty late if you need something

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Have you shoot already ? Did you shoot 0.5 u?

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Have you shoot already ? Did you shoot 0.5 u?

I gave Yoyo his .5 Unit at 7:40pm. Filling the syringe is making me sick. I thought I would have problems giving Yo his shot. He is so good. He lets me do anything. I tried following the photos, they really helped a lot!
I was asked earlier when giving him his morning shot if I felt his fur was wet or smelled the insulin. I said "no" to both BUT now that I was thinking of that when I gave him his shot just now I smelled him and I did smell something different. Does that mean that he didn't get the shot? But I know this shot went into him. I am just wondering about the smell, normal or not normal?

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

I gave Yoyo his .5 Unit at 7:40pm. Filling the syringe is making me sick. I thought I would have problems giving Yo his shot. He is so good. He lets me do anything. I tried following the photos, they really helped a lot!
I was asked earlier when giving him his morning shot if I felt his fur was wet or smelled the insulin. I said "no" to both BUT now that I was thinking of that when I gave him his shot just now I smelled him and I did smell something different. Does that mean that he didn't get the shot? But I know this shot went into him. I am just wondering about the smell, normal or not normal?

Actually I smell something weird on my hands so perhaps that is why he smells funny cause of me touching him.....

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Ok Yoyo! Ball is in your court. Let's see what you will be doing tonight

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Debra, don't forget to remove the question mark once your question is answered. That way people whose questions have not been answered yet can get some attention.

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Good !! Yoyo please be nice to your mom.

And as for the smell it is not any smell insulin has a very particular smell next time you draw some get a drop out of the syringe and smell it so that you can identify it next time

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Debra, don't forget to remove the question mark once your question is answered. That way people whose questions have not been answered yet can get some attention.

Ok...will do right now...enjoy your evening!

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Good !! Yoyo please be nice to your mom.

And as for the smell it is not any smell insulin has a very particular smell next time you draw some get a drop out of the syringe and smell it so that you can identify it next time

ok.....but I was thinking maybe I did get insulin on my hands because I withdrew extra and squirted it out. I get so tense drawing the insulin up into the syringe. My hand shakes.....I need to get over it and get with the program!

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

ok.....but I was thinking maybe I did get insulin on my hands because I withdrew extra and squirted it out. I get so tense drawing the insulin up into the syringe. My hand shakes.....I need to get over it and get with the program!

ok.....but I was thinking maybe I did get insulin on my hands because I withdrew extra and squirted it out. I get so tense drawing the insulin up into the syringe. My hand shakes.....I need to get over it and get with the program!

** Do I need to give Yoyo food to slow down the drop? He doesn't show a food bump in +1?

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Ok...will do right now...enjoy your evening!

If your busy, don't worry,(I'll probably give him some food too slow him down), but I was wondering if I should give Yo food as he dropped from PMPS 354 to 297 +1

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Did you feed him yet?
I think you should hold off since we are trying to understand how his body responds to insulin.

Does Yoyo ever refuse to eat?

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Did you feed him yet?
I think you should hold off since we are trying to understand how his body responds to insulin.

Does Yoyo ever refuse to eat?

Oh yes, fussy boy. He will walk away and I follow him like a mother hen
When I was giving him 1 unit I never did a +1. Last night was the first time that I did a +1. I didn't have any support in the beginning. I called the vet when I panicked as he dropped over 200 points. Her reaction was.....it's normal, you don't have to test. So from there I got really scared and didn't know where to turn to. I don't remember how I got nto this site, but Thank G-d for you all!

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Oh yes, fussy boy. He will walk away and I follow him like a mother hen
When I was giving him 1 unit I never did a +1. Last night was the first time that I did a +1. I didn't have any support in the beginning. I called the vet when I panicked as he dropped over 200 points. Her reaction was.....it's normal, you don't have to test. So from there I got really scared and didn't know where to turn to. I don't remember how I got nto this site, but Thank G-d for you all!

OOOPS....I forgot to answer you, sorry.....No, I haven't fed him yet.

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

OOOPS....I forgot to answer you, sorry.....No, I haven't fed him yet.

I think that's better so we can see what the Lantus does and also see when his onset is. If we see the number starting to drop at +2, then we know the Lantus is starting to kick in. If he drops a lot at +2, then we would need to monitor more closely. Approximately 10 minutes to your +2, right? Let's see what Yoyo's got planned for you tonight. He gets to eat after this test.

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

I think that's better so we can see what the Lantus does and also see when his onset is. If we see the number starting to drop at +2, then we know the Lantus is starting to kick in. If he drops a lot at +2, then we would need to monitor more closely. Approximately 10 minutes to your +2, right? Let's see what Yoyo's got planned for you tonight. He gets to eat after this test.

Ok...putting doggies out, will test soon

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

219 +2
I can tell he is looking for food. Feed yet or wait. And if I do feed, small portion or his normal portion of 1/2 can?

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Nice drop. I'd say normal portion. That's a big drop, and he didn't show a food bump.

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

He thanks you. He is following me all over the house. Food...yay!

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Let's see if @Veronica & Babu-chiri or @Bobbie And Bubba can weigh in.
I don't want to steer you wrong so getting a second and third opinion is good.

They can look at the numbers and tell us what they see.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

Let's see if @Veronica & Babu-chiri or @Bobbie And Bubba can weigh in.
I don't want to steer you wrong so getting a second and third opinion is good.

They can look at the numbers and tell us what they see.

That's a big drop from PMPS to +2. I would give a tsp of LC food to help slow him down some.

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Thanks @Bobbie And Bubba

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Thanks @Bobbie And Bubba

Yoyo ate about 1/2 can, he was hungry, belly full now.
I do need to give him his felimazole med aound 11......I usually give it with food but I'll give him water instead. He likes water from a dropper, thinks he's getting a treat.

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

He likes water from a dropper, thinks he's getting a treat.

That's adorable

I usually give it with food but I'll give him water instead.

Sounds good.

See you at +3

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

That's adorable


Sounds good.

See you at +3

Thank you for being here again with me but if you need to leave, please let me know. I would miss you, but I understand as you said you may be tired. I really feel comfortable with you, you have a way of saying things that calm me down.

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Thank you for being here again with me but if you need to leave, please let me know. I would miss you, but I understand as you said you may be tired. I really feel comfortable with you, you have a way of saying things that calm me down.

Thank you for being here again with me but if you need to leave, please let me know. I would miss you, but I understand as you said you may be tired. I really feel comfortable with you, you have a way of saying things that calm me down.

199 +3 .............I guess the food slowed him down. At least I know the food works and it is a LC

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Good call! What a nice blue

I'm finally home from work now so I'll be around for a while just in case

And yes usually LC is enough and that way you won't spike his BG

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Good call! What a nice blue

I'm finally home from work now so I'll be around for a while just in case

And yes usually LC is enough and that way you won't spike his BG

Good call! What a nice blue

I'm finally home from work now so I'll be around for a while just in case

And yes usually LC is enough and that way you won't spike his BG

Glad to know that you are here to help us

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Glad to know that you are here to help us

Hi, Wanted to know if it is important to test for +5. I'm not going to sleep, just didn't want to poke Yo's ear again if not necessary. Please advise.

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Sorry Debra. Fell asleep right in front of the computer. I knew I was tired, just didn't realize just how much.
Glad you are getting help.
Good night

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Hi, Wanted to know if it is important to test for +5. I'm not going to sleep, just didn't want to poke Yo's ear again if not necessary. Please advise.

I think he's still in very safe numbers probably your can give him a small break and test at +6 or even +7

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Sorry Debra. Fell asleep right in front of the computer. I knew I was tired, just didn't realize just how much.
Glad you are getting help.
Good night

Oh- I know that feeling. Sleep well

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

I think he's still in very safe numbers probably your can give him a small break and test at +6 or even +7

Sounds good to me. Will you be here for the +7 test to tell me if he is still in a safe place?

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Sounds good to me. Will you be here for the +7 test to tell me if he is still in a safe place?

Not sure but I'll try to take a look around that time

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Hi I see Yoyo is doing ok

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Hi I see Yoyo is doing ok

Yes, Yoyo is doing well. Is it ok if I get a few hours sleep. Looks like he may have peaked and is now going up? Thoughts please.

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Yes, Yoyo is doing well. Is it ok if I get a few hours sleep. Looks like he may have peaked and is now going up? Thoughts please.

I think his numbers are just fine and he's on a safe range both of you probably need some rest, I think you could call it a night if you want

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

I think his numbers are just fine and he's on a safe range both of you probably need some rest, I think you could call it a night if you want

Thank you for checking. I just took a +8 reading of 249. Thank you for being here!

 

[Veronica & Babu-chiri]

Thank you for checking. I just took a +8 reading of 249. Thank you for being here!

Don't even mention it, he's on his way up so try and get some rest and by The look of it you will probably be just fine for shooting in the morning

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Debra, You just got here, and you are already a pro! You have made so much progress in such a short time. You should really be proud of yourself.
We need a pat-on-the-back emoji here. In the meantime how about a hug? and a woot!

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Debra, You just got here, and you are already a pro! You have made so much progress in such a short time. You should really be proud of yourself.
We need a pat-on-the-back emoji here. In the meantime how about a hug? and a woot!

Nice way to wake up...thank you!
How is your weather. I heard NJ got hit with a blizzard on top of the first snow that fell the day before. Kids slept over night in school; now that is sad. Supposely no warning of additional snow, well that's what I read on facebook anyway. So how are you and Bailey?

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Nice way to wake up...thank you!

You're welcome
We're doing pretty well. Heading into NJ and NY today. Yeah, they got hit hard, but they also clean up fast. My kids sent me pictures, and you'd think they only got a sprinkle of snow. Meanwhile, I'm sure if I go into town here in PA, the snow would still be everywhere.

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

You're welcome
We're doing pretty well. Heading into NJ and NY today. Yeah, they got hit hard, but they also clean up fast. My kids sent me pictures, and you'd think they only got a sprinkle of snow. Meanwhile, I'm sure if I go into town here in PA, the snow would still be everywhere.

Something weird going on with this site. I placed a new title/thread for today and when I went to make changes like add the URL from yesterday it won't let me edit. Also, I wasn't getting any ALERT Messages, they all had disappeared. I am now getting your messages but I still can't EDIT the new thread/title I entered today. Anything strange on your end going on with this site?

Yo's BG was high this am. Is this normal? I had to get some sleep around 4:00am so I didn't do +9. Seems he is higher now than when Pre-insulin.

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Something weird going on with this site. I placed a new title/thread for today and when I went to make changes like add the URL from yesterday it won't let me edit. Also, I wasn't getting any ALERT Messages, they all had disappeared. I am now getting your messages but I still can't EDIT the new thread/title I entered today. Anything strange on your end going on with this site?

Yo's BG was high this am. Is this normal? I had to get some sleep around 4:00am so I didn't do +9. Seems he is higher now than when Pre-insulin.

I am still having issues.....my title keeps going back to 11/16, the messages you are sending me are going under 11/16 title and I still can't edit the Title. Maybe I should log off and log back on. I better see if I find my password first....lol
Hopefully you are getting these messages. Yo's =1 when up to 446, there goes my doubt that maybe I didn't give the shot correctly. Time will tell.

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Something weird going on with this site. I placed a new title/thread for today and when I went to make changes like add the URL from yesterday it won't let me edit. Also, I wasn't getting any ALERT Messages, they all had disappeared. I am now getting your messages but I still can't EDIT the new thread/title I entered today. Anything strange on your end going on with this site?

Yeah, the site seems to do it every morning between 7:30 and 8:00am. I think it has something to do with maintenance. Someone suggested reporting to one of the moderators, but I have not done that yet.

He could be having a bounce. When his BG goes lower than what it's used to, the body flips out and sends lots of sugar into the blood stream trying to save him. Bounces are the most frustrating part of this sugar dance, and I still don't understand them. Lots of the experienced members can look at your sheet and predict when he will come out of the bounce so don't be afraid to ask. I just don't know enough to help with that.

I think you should definitely stay the course with this dose, unless he drops too low. Have you chosen a protocol yet? Start slow go slow(SLGS) or Tight Regulation (TR)?

Gotta go get ready to see my kids, my brother and my dad. So excited to see them all!

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

Hopefully you are getting these messages. Yo's =1 when up to 446, there goes my doubt that maybe I didn't give the shot correctly. Time will tell.

Yeah, sorry. I write long responses

You'll know by around +2 or +3 depending on his onset time. Until then, it could just be his food bump. Don't worry yet, but test for ketones when you can.

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

Yeah, the site seems to do it every morning between 7:30 and 8:00am. I think it has something to do with maintenance. Someone suggested reporting to one of the moderators, but I have not done that yet.

He could be having a bounce. When his BG goes lower than what it's used to, the body flips out and sends lots of sugar into the blood stream trying to save him. Bounces are the most frustrating part of this sugar dance, and I still don't understand them. Lots of the experienced members can look at your sheet and predict when he will come out of the bounce so don't be afraid to ask. I just don't know enough to help with that.

I think you should definitely stay the course with this dose, unless he drops too low. Have you chosen a protocol yet? Start slow go slow(SLGS) or Tight Regulation (TR)?

Gotta go get ready to see my kids, my brother and my dad. So excited to see them all!

I hope you enjoy your day.
Really not to sure what the difference is except someone wrote to me telling me that I think the low for SLGS is 90 and for Tight Regulation it is 50. With my nerves I will never make 50, so if that is the difference than I will go SLGS for Yoyo. Let me know when you have the time if I am correct in what I just wrote and what the difference is. You are the first person to ask me that question, Thank you! Please let me know what method I am doing now or even if there is a method this early in the data.

I'm afraid to log out because I am not sure what my log in is.

 

[Debra and Yoyo]

I hope you enjoy your day.
Really not to sure what the difference is except someone wrote to me telling me that I think the low for SLGS is 90 and for Tight Regulation it is 50. With my nerves I will never make 50, so if that is the difference than I will go SLGS for Yoyo. Let me know when you have the time if I am correct in what I just wrote and what the difference is. You are the first person to ask me that question, Thank you! Please let me know what method I am doing now or even if there is a method this early in the data.

I'm afraid to log out because I am not sure what my log in is.

I messed up on the Lantus title page. I tried to delete todays first Title but I can't and now I have 2 Titles on the page. I changed the title to "Duplicate disregard" not to confuse anyone. I also clicked on CONTACT and reported it. Hopefully someone will correct it. I also reported that all my messages from today are going under my title from 11/16. NEVER DULL WITH ME. I hope members don't get annoyed with me for having a duplicate title. So sorry!

 

[Rosie & Bailey]

I started with slgs, and then switched to tr after I felt more comfortable. Yes the preshot cutoff is different, but you also hold the dose for longer than TR. TR is more aggressive, but it has the better chance of leading into remission.
I think starting with slgs is a good idea. You should update your signature to show that is the protocol you are following. Once you are feeling more comfortable, consider switching to tr.

I think everyone will understand about the duplicate thread. Don't even worry about it.