I was worried when he kept dropping, because all he had ate was maybe 2 T of Young Again LC dry food. I gave him his 5.5 U of Lantus because I thought he would eat more a little later, but as time passed I realized he was not going to eat. I was concerned because he had not ate and his numbers kept getting lower. Before diabetes he ate FF grilled with gravy and he loves it. When he kept going down and would not eat, I gave him FF grilled with gravy. He ate 1 can of FF grilled with gravy, his numbers came up and then right back down, same thing happened with the 2nd can. I started to get worried because he would not eat anymore. When I finally got the time to post this, I went back and his numbers were slowly coming up.Here is your most recent post: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...-starting-to-feel-better.182153/#post-2021815
I'm honestly not sure why you want him to come up, His numbers today are awesome!!! This is the kind of cycle everyone strives for.
Since you are doing SLGS and he dropped below 90, Buddy has earned a reduction to 5.0.
Have you tried giving him some MC foods? Or, if he likes the gravy foods, Fancy Feast Roasted Chicken, and the Turkey, run 6% and they have a sauce to them he might like.
I hope he is feeling better soon. P-titis is just wicked.
Kris, it is nice to hear from you, I always appreciate your advice. I want Buddy to have lower numbers, but since he had not ate but a couple bites of YA, it scared me. When I got him to eat the FF grilled and he did not come back up and stay up, I was afraid. I remember you telling me that Buddy would not be bouncing around on Lantus and he did not bounce.I know this is nerve-wracking, Teresa, but this is exactly what Lantus does best - keep them low when they get down to these lovely numbers. As Tricia said above, the greens below 90 have earned Buddy a reduction. Over time you'll get used to the different way that Lantus works and you can always post here for help.
Here is a great piece by Dr. Lisa Pierson on transitioning from dry to all wet food. For now, tips include crumbling a few pieces of their favorite dry on top, sprinkling parmesean cheese on it, or Forti Flora (Cinco would eat anything with Forti Flora on it - but then, until he got really sick with cancer, he would eat anything.
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This is a disease that can be very stressful for the caregiver. That's what we're here for - to help you get through it!
The Fancy Feast Chunky flavors - Chopped Grill, Chicken and also Turkey are 4, 4 and 5 respectively. They might be worth a try.
Which flavors of the Grilled will he eat? The chicken and the beef are the lowest % - 12, which is MC. These are better than the Gravy lovers, most of which are 15%.
Chewy.com has the Roasted Chicken and also the Roasted Turkey, and they have free shipping and great prices. Of course, you have to order at least a case, so if he doesn't like it.....
I used to carry it with me, but it got really beat up. Then I downloaded the list to my phone so I could look stuff up easily right in the store!
I have already tried all of these, I have been trying get Buddy to eat with FortiFlora on it just now, and he will not. I will wait a few minutes and try the FF chunky. He should have had his shot at 8:30 p.m. and it is now 9:16 p.m.Here is a great piece by Dr. Lisa Pierson on transitioning from dry to all wet food. For now, tips include crumbling a few pieces of their favorite dry on top, sprinkling parmesean cheese on it, or Forti Flora (Cinco would eat anything with Forti Flora on it - but then, until he got really sick with cancer, he would eat anything.
If those don't work, give him what he will eat. It's important to give Lantus consistently, and even more important that he eat something.
It is I think, tonight he won't look at it. If he misses a shot tonight, it will probably be his 2nd one.
In the morning should I give Buddy 5u instead of 5.5u.Here is your most recent post: http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...-starting-to-feel-better.182153/#post-2021815
I'm honestly not sure why you want him to come up, His numbers today are awesome!!! This is the kind of cycle everyone strives for.
Since you are doing SLGS and he dropped below 90, Buddy has earned a reduction to 5.0.
Have you tried giving him some MC foods? Or, if he likes the gravy foods, Fancy Feast Roasted Chicken, and the Turkey, run 6% and they have a sauce to them he might like.
I hope he is feeling better soon. P-titis is just wicked.
Yay! Buddy, be warned that this kind of trick is not going to work forever!
Yes. He earned the reduction. I see you did a BCS of 3.0 tonight? Keep in mind the depot is still there, so you'll still need to monitor tonight. Your shot in the morning should be no less than 11.5 hours after tonight's shot.
Will the depot be like he had a 5.5 u injection. Should I not have given him the shot. I plan on giving him the shot 12 hours after the one tonight.
Not necessarily, but the depot readjusts to the new dose, so some additional insulin will be released.
I don't mean to ask a lot of question's, but when Marvin does not eat very much, do you always give the same dose. How do you get Marvin to eat. Sorry, I am having problems getting Buddy to eat,
I find them at the grocery store and Petco, Teresa. My Walmart nearby decided to stop carrying the flavours I get Maury
and some of their prices are worse than Petco!
. Maybe @Phoebes knows of a more local store for you to look at that is near he as well? Angela, have you seen Fancy Feast Roasted Chicken/Roasted Turkey flavours anywhere when you buy your foods? Please let Teresa know
Stick with the reduction to 5 u, Teresa. It's best not to change Lantus dose too often because it messes up the depot and that can lead to erratic BGs. He doesn't need much food on board before his shot because Lantus is slower than ProZinc to take effect generally. Getting him to eat small amounts of whatever he will eat is important so do what you have to do, keep the dose unless he drops below 90, and collect the BG data. After 5 to 7 days at a dose, you can increase if the numbers don't drop into blues at least. Lantus loves stability.
Thank you, I value what you say.
Walmart in this town has not carried the Roasted flavours. I have looked at all the other stores and I have never seen them.I find them at the grocery store and Petco, Teresa. My Walmart nearby decided to stop carrying the flavours I get Maury
If you are still having problems finding them, I could send you a couple to try
Right now he is not having much to do with the YA, but he does like kibble. I have tried this before with various dry foods and he would not go for it.
We have a pet supply plus in evansille area that has some different kinds of ff. Also pet food supply store. Don't know about that flavor specifically. Don't use it.
He has never tried them, what brand are they. If I can find some freeze dried treats, I will get them for Buddy.
I cannot get Buddy to eat any wet food, except for a FF grilled with gravy and it has 13 carbs. He is not eating YA today. I ordered 2lb of Dr. Easley's dry food, today.He gets finicky with his wet foods sometimes, so I'll just give him a few pieces of his YA. Sometimes this works, the other times I just have to give him the whole tablespoon so I know he has food in his tummy to get insulin. He *usually* goes back to his wet food.
How is the rest of your crew?
One brand of freeze dried meat treats is called Pure Bites. They're at PetSmart stores. I buy Orijen brand freeze dried treats for Teasel but those tend to be in smaller "natural" pet food stores. You might be able to buy either or both online.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Than you.
Just checking in, Teresa. I think you could try 5.25 u now. The longer Buddy stays in high numbers, the harder it'll be to get him down.
Your last post was quite a while ago. I know this Lantus forum is big, busy and confusing but we're still here to help.
oJu st checking in, Teresa. I think you could try 5.25 u now. The longer Buddy stays in high numbers, the harder it'll be to get him down.
Your last post was quite a while ago. I know this Lantus forum is big, busy and confusing but we're still here to help.
I'm very glad he's eating, Teresa. That means you can resume the Lantus dosing guidelines. If you're following SLGS you'll give 5.5 u for 5 to 7 days and then go to 6 u. He gets dry food occasionally so that means you have to stick to SLGS.
Kris, most of the time 6u is too much for Buddy. His good dose is between 5.5u and 6u. I don't feel comfortable going straight from 5.5 u to 6u. I am not for sure how to handle this, but this is something I will not do.I'm very glad he's eating, Teresa. That means you can resume the Lantus dosing guidelines. If you're following SLGS you'll give 5.5 u for 5 to 7 days and then go to 6 u. He gets dry food occasionally so that means you have to stick to SLGS.
Post a new thread whenever you have time. I'll check in too.
You're in charge, Teresa. I suggest you do what you know works better for Buddy and try 5.75 u instead. I've tailored Lantus dosing to suit Teasel too. We know our boys best.
Kris, I may have spoke too soon, I am going to see what happens in the next few days, then decide which dose is best for Buddy. Buddy, has been through so much already, I do not want to do anything that might harm him.You're in charge, Teresa. I suggest you do what you know works better for Buddy and try 5.75 u instead. I've tailored Lantus dosing to suit Teasel too. We know our boys best.
When Buddy was at the vet the first time with diabetes, they feed him Glycobalance and he really likes it. I called RoyalCanin about the amount of Carbs, I cannot remember exactly what amount they said, but it was low carb. I give Buddy FF liver & chicken grilled when his numbers get low and it will raise his BG, it has 13carbs. It raises his numbers a lot more than Glycobalance.
By the way, you have a very cute looking kitty.
Thank you, your little guy is gorgeous too.
Hmmm, I'm sure that's what you were told, but looking at the ingredients, there's a fair bit of wheat in there, I put the gauranteed analysis numbers through a calculator, and it comes back very hc, I know that we need the as fed numbers to be accurate, but i doubt it's LC. George was put on a diabetic dry food from hills by his vet, that was also HC.