6/13 Mouzer amps +14 132 / +14.5 152

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Cherryl & Mouzer

Cherryl & Mouzer

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6/12 Mouzer

amps +377 1.25u and I hope that was not a fur shot
+2 187 says that am shot was not a fur shot :D


Marje and Gracie said:
If you decide to stick with SLGS, his new doe will be 1u but if he is high tomorrow morning....high yellow or higher, you can do what we call "shoot through the bounce" so you would give him 1.25u one last time to help him get through the bounce numbers and then you would reduce to 1u tomorrow night.

If you decide to switch to TR, you would leave the dose the same (1.25u). You would still do random spot checks but we don't do 12 hour or 18 hour curves with TR; we just do spot checks or check like tonight when numbers are going lower.

It's your decision.
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I made this note on my SS in remarks
Hope that was not a fur shot. Calling it shoot thru bounce 1.25u. PM shot dose go to 1.0u based on Info by Marje and Gracie in 6/12 condo.
I am unsure about TR due to fear of 50 being a low. I feel better with 90 being a low.

I gave shot 30 minutes late last night and 15 up from that this morning but only because I wanted to get on here to see if any suggestions for this morning. I gave the 1.25u and I will take the 1.0u this evening -- but if he gets back up with those reds and blacks - we will raise dose again? Right? I hate to see him up there like that but I am too scared of a 50 low.
 
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Hi Cherryl, good job shooting through the bounce this morning. Tonight's PM cycle you will shoot the reduced dose of 1 unit.

You indicated you hope it wasn't a FS. Did you feel wet or smell the insulin on Mouser after you shot?
 
Good move on shooting through the bounce.

Just because the 1u didn't quite do it for him before doesn't mean it won't work now. Their insulin needs can change.


Cherryl & Mouzer said:
but if he gets back up with those reds and blacks - we will raise dose again? Right? I hate to see him up there like that but I am too scared of a 50 low.
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With SLGS, in accordance with the guidelines, you would hold the dose for a whole week, even if his numbers are high during that time, on the 7th day, you run a curve, look at his numbers as a whole and then decide if the reduction was working or if it had failed. It's one of the reasons that for me it would have been difficult to do SLGS, and why I did TR, sure 50 seems low, remember, that kitty is not having a hypo at 50, it's simply the point below which we must begin to take serious action to bring those numbers up to avoid a hypo. I felt that having the lower reduction point of 50 allowed me to hold on to the dose for longer, that in turn enabled me to keep George in that healthy range for longer. I was able to adjust dose more frequently when numbers weren't promising (patience is not my strongest point LOL), and when I took a reduction I did so knowing that if I saw numbers trending up I could call a failed reduction and get him back up to the last good dose., that gave me peace of mind when reducing. I wanted to be able to get George well regulated as quickly as it was safe to do so, as research shows that getting a cat well regulated quickly, gives them the best chance of remission, for me, TR offered me the best way to do this.

You can always do SLGS now and when you feel more comfortable, I have a feeling that won't be long for you, you can move to TR.

BTW
great surg action from Mouzer last night, and well done handling your first blue PS and green surf.:cool::D
 
Gill & George said:
Good move on shooting through the bounce.

Just because the 1u didn't quite do it for him before doesn't mean it won't work now. Their insulin needs can change.






With SLGS, in accordance with the guidelines, you would hold the dose for a whole week, even if his numbers are high during that time, on the 7th day, you run a curve, look at his numbers as a whole and then decide if the reduction was working or if it had failed. It's one of the reasons that for me it would have been difficult to do SLGS, and why I did TR, sure 50 seems low, remember, that kitty is not having a hypo at 50, it's simply the point below which we must begin to take serious action to bring those numbers up to avoid a hypo. I felt that having the lower reduction point of 50 allowed me to hold on to the dose for longer, that in turn enabled me to keep George in that healthy range for longer. I was able to adjust dose more frequently when numbers weren't promising (patience is not my strongest point LOL), and when I took a reduction I did so knowing that if I saw numbers trending up I could call a failed reduction and get him back up to the last good dose., that gave me peace of mind when reducing. I wanted to be able to get George well regulated as quickly as it was safe to do so, as research shows that getting a cat well regulated quickly, gives them the best chance of remission, for me, TR offered me the best way to do this.

You can always do SLGS now and when you feel more comfortable, I have a feeling that won't be long for you, you can move to TR.

BTW
great surg action from Mouzer last night, and well done handling your first blue PS and green surf.:cool::D
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+2 187 I guess the am shot was not a fur shot :D

OK I am watching today. I will have to pick up the kitty from the vet at some point but I stopped in, on my way home from dropping the kitty off at the vet, and did some quick chores, so I could get back for +2. I wil stick around to check in an hour, being as he has done this drop in two hours. If all looks ok, I can go finish up chores and hurry back again.

And I feel funny you guys tellin me good on last night, because I know you all are used to handling lower numbers. It was huge for me but I know I look like a big baby goof with freaking out. I am a little freaked right now haha Just because of this drop at +2 from the am 1.25. I definitely will do 1.0 for pm and we will see where that goes and so that 1.0 will be held for a week and then curve and then decision, of which you all have to make for me on dose, because I dont yet understand everything enough. I think I am understanding bounce and now shoot through bounce! I got to learn somethin else new! The learning is fun and even at one point last night, I found myself saying, wow, what a rush, but it is kind of fun hahaha But that is because he didnt go lower. It would not have been so fun if he dropped more heehee

OK - I need to go re-read and find out where hypo is - being as 50 is safe but some action seems to be needed - I just need to feel comfort before I think of TR and not being worried to death over 50.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Hi Cherryl, good job shooting through the bounce this morning. Tonight's PM cycle you will shoot the reduced dose of 1 unit.

You indicated you hope it wasn't a FS. Did you feel wet or smell the insulin on Mouser after you shot?
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heehee I thank you for good job shooting through bounce but I feel like a goofball with decisions I feel are easy for all you guys.
I didnt smell bandaid but I thought I felt a little wet, so I got concerned about fur shot -- however, I am always with my hands in water, due to caring for so many animals and to be safe, I keep my hands clean, so it could have been just that I washed my hands first. The +2 187 tells me I did not do a fur shot hahaha
 
+2 187 I am making additional post because I am excited that Mouzer is blue.
I hope he stays blue and I do 1.0u for pm shot and he doesnt rise to red over night.
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
heehee I thank you for good job shooting through bounce but I feel like a goofball with decisions I feel are easy for all you guys.
I didnt smell bandaid but I thought I felt a little wet, so I got concerned about fur shot -- however, I am always with my hands in water, due to caring for so many animals and to be safe, I keep my hands clean, so it could have been just that I washed my hands first. The +2 187 tells me I did not do a fur shot hahaha
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The smell of insulin is very distinctive. You can't miss it.
 
Back to blue so soon Mouzer!!!

Sorry Cherryl, was just having lunch.
Guess you will be ready to get that +3 shortly.
Will be looking out for you.
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
And I feel funny you guys tellin me good on last night, because I know you all are used to handling lower numbers.
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But we all remember our first time.
:bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Can you give him a little snack.

I would give him some MC (medium carb), a couple of teaspoons, if you don't have MC then mix 1 teaspoon of LC with one teaspoon of HC.
And yes your right on the mark, test again at +3.5
 
Gill & George said:
Can you give him a little snack.

I would give him some MC (medium carb), a couple of teaspoons, if you don't have MC then mix 1 teaspoon of LC with one teaspoon of HC.
And yes your right on the mark, test again at +3.5
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I do have MC but he did eat his full 30z brekky, so I am not sure he will eat but I will go try - being as it is a 'new' food, he might take some bites. I will be back at +305 and let you know if he did eat.
 
The idea of the snack is to see if we can slow him right down and get him so surf. A little food can given at times like this can often help you achieve that.
I'm hoping the MC will be enough, another option would be to give HC now, it is quite early in the cycle, if you think he will more likely to eat that then you could try a teaspoon of HC gravy.
 
Gill & George said:
The idea of the snack is to see if we can slow him right down and get him so surf. A little food can given at times like this can often help you achieve that.
I'm hoping the MC will be enough, another option would be to give HC now, it is quite early in the cycle, if you think he will more likely to eat that then you c2tould try a teaspoon of HC gravy.
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This time, he did eat the 2tsp MC -- but if I have to give him more of something, I might have to do the MC Gravy, just so he will want it. I had to get back to let ya know he did eat that haha Cat be trippin me out!! Again haha
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
This time, he did eat the 2tsp MC -- but if I have to give him more of something, I might have to do the MC Gravy, just so he will want it. I had to get back to let ya know he did eat that haha
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Good, that he ate.

If he needs something more then HC gravy may be the way to go. but let's see what his +3.5 is.
 
Gill & George said:
Good, that he ate.

If he needs something more then HC gravy may be the way to go. but let's see what his +3.5 is.
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And I am a little off on my timing today because gave shot at a quarter past - so, I am going to wait til a quarter til 4th hour, to get this next test. I am hoping I can move closer to the hour, so I am not getting mixed up. I dont feel he will go lower than 80's, at least, but I am on my toes.
I feel pretty comfy right now - Just nervous enough to be on my toes.
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
And I am a little off on my timing today because gave shot at a quarter past - so, I am going to wait til a quarter til 4th hour, to get this next test. I am hoping I can move closer to the hour, so I am not getting mixed up.
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because he has dropped so fast, I would get a test 30min after you got the last one.
Lets adjust the timing once the excitement is over.
 
amps 377 breakfast
+2 189 (no food)
+3 116 (2tsp MC@about +3.25)
+3.5 89 nice that he's slowed down

No food and check again in 30min. Want to see if he will hold his own without food.
 
Gill & George said:
amps 377 breakfast
+2 189 (no food)
+3 116 (2tsp MC@about +3.25)
+3.5 89 nice that he's slowed down

No food and check again in 30min. Want to see if he will hold his own without food.
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Oh ok haha I saw green number, got nervous.
And I am right on the quarter hour before and after hour for test to be 30 mins apart.
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
Oh ok haha I saw green number, got nervous. So, dont do MC Gravy yet?
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He looks like he is slowing down a bit, at 89 he is in good safe numbers, so we can afford to ride it out and see if he will hold his own. We are hoping for a surf.
Save the gravy for later, we don't want to overdo it with the carbs and have him shoot up, and we don't want to fill him up in case we really need him to eat later on in the cycle.



But definitely get no later than a +4.
 
Gill & George said:
He looks like he is slowing down a bit, at 89 he is in good safe numbers, so we can afford to ride it out and see if he will hold his own. We are hoping for a surf.
Save the gravy for later, we don't want to overdo it with the carbs and have him shoot up, and we don't want to fill him up in case we really need him to eat later on in the cycle.



But definitely get no later than a +4.
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Mouzer was sick of being poked and ran off to bed last night haha
And he has not forgotten and ran back to bed after the poke before last.
But poking is what it is :)
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
Mouzer was sick of being poked and ran off to bed last night haha
And he has not forgotten and ran back to bed after the poke before last.
But poking is what it is :)
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What motivates him??
For George it was Freeze dried chicken treats LOL, so he'd put up with a poke for the sake of a small freeze dried treat, that and lots of cuddles and scritches under his chin. I'd tell him what a good boy he was too.
 
Gill & George said:
What motivates him??
For George it was Freeze dried chicken treats LOL, so he'd put up with a poke for the sake of a small freeze dried treat, that and lots of cuddles and scritches under his chin. I'd tell him what a good boy he was too.
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I did order some kind of chicken treats from that foster smith site - I found it in the low carb treat list - it hasnt arrived yet but I am waiting on it!!
 
+4 82

Chicken Treats from Foster Smith are to arrive tomorrow and I also ordered that grass kit and I hope that is ok - it appeared to be ok and I wasnt wanting to pay shipping so I made my order high enough for no shipping.
 
I did an edit up there about the chicken treats and I think you saw it before edit
I ordered the grass kit from foster smith so not to pay shipping - that grass is fine isnt it? for Mouzer?

And I would consider TR but I cant stay up late every night if he is going to do this green on the 1.25u, so I am very hesitant on that and I hate watching him go back to red and black too but I am concerned about having to stay up late every night. But I am loving to see him here at this safer green - I hate to mess it up for him.
 
Nice +4,
He's staying level, which is great.
Now as he had some higher carb, we want to see if he will hold his own when that wears off. I'm thinking testing in 30-45min.

If he will have some a teaspoon of LC may help him surf along, but don't worry if he won't eat.
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
I ordered the grass kit from foster smith so not to pay shipping - that grass is fine isnt it? for Mouzer?
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I think so. I had some for George, but he refuses to eat it LOL, he goes out into the yard occasionally for a nibble of grass there.
 
Gill & George said:
Nice +4,
He's staying level, which is great.
Now as he had some higher carb, we want to see if he will hold his own when that wears off. I'm thinking testing in 30-45min.

If he will have some a teaspoon of LC may help him surf along, but don't worry if he won't eat.

I think so. I had some for George, but he refuses to eat it LOL, he goes out into the yard occasionally for a nibble of grass there.
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Ok - If I wait the 45 mins, that will put me back on the hour, so I will wait til 11am est
If Mouzer wont eat the grass, somebody here will. I just wanted to check and make sure the grass is ok for Mouzer, if he will eat it. I have enough kitties around that somebody will eat it, if anything, just to enjoy making a mess with it, I am sure :D
 
So, when you went TR - were you up late every night because of these greens?

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heehee I just copied this from the OTJ kitty condo
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
So, when you went TR - were you up late every night because of these greens?
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I wasn't up all the time, believe it or not I napped in between the tests, George got used to sleeping on the bed so I'd set the alarm and grab a test while we still on the bed. When he needed steering, I'd sleep on the sofa, because that was easier than running up and down the stairs to the kitchen.


A lot of the time I didn't need to stay up, but I'm also a member of Testaholics Anonymous LOL, most of the time I couldn't help myself. I was fortunate to have the luxury of time at that point, I guess I would have to do it differently if I hadn't.
 
I caught up on sleep when I could, often I'd sleep in the day. I shot early in the morning as well so my +5 was midnight, I would often be in bed by then so most nights I got 6-7 hours sleep, which was enough for me. It's more or less what I do now anyways.
 
Gill & George said:
I caught up on sleep when I could, often I'd sleep in the day. I shot early in the morning as well so my +5 was midnight, I would often be in bed by then so most nights I got 6-7 hours sleep, which was enough for me. It's more or less what I do now anyways.
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My +5 is 11 and so +6 is midnight - and I figure if I am up at 11, may as well get the +6. It takes me so long to fall asleep, no matter how tired I am. That is why I cant test and sleep - by the time I got back to sleep, it would be test time again. I have to keep everything put away because other kitties in the house and I cant keep it out in the bathroom because if it is in my husband's way, I cant even explain what a total butthole he is - do not inconvenience him in any way - I mean, I cant even walk down the hall the same time he does and if I am in the hall first - I get treated pretty cruddy, because I am in his way. Total azz. So, I think I will stay with SLGS and at least see how going back to 1.0 goes for this coming week with it.
 
Cherryl & Mouzer said:
So, I think I will stay with SLGS and at least see how going back to 1.0 goes for this coming week with it.
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That's fine you have to do what works best for the both of you. Only you can judge that.
And it's not like it's set in stone anyways, you can always change your mind if you find that it is not working for you.
 
Gill & George said:
Just saw that 78 pop up on the ss

Did you give him a LC snack 45min ago?
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He wouldnt eat it and I did that as +5 -- is that a +4.75 -- I am a little confused now.
78 isnt far from 82 so could be variance???
You should see me runnin around doin chores in between this haha The cats see a lunatic :D
 
Gill & George said:
He's staying flat surfs up
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I think your +4 was a +4.25. (basically cause you've been out by about 15 min with the previous tests)
You are 5hours on from when you posted amps, so I think you are at +5 now.
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If it is ok and no huge deal, can I leave this all as a +5 and at half past the hour is 30 mins again - so I can keep my head straight on the time?
And should I get a test in 30 minutes past last test? Or wait an hour now? LOL If I can make me wait an hour.
 
I think it's been an hour and half since he had the MC, so it would be good to get a test at +5.5, that will be 2 hours since the extra carbs, and then we can be sure he's sustaining himself without the carbs.

Cherryl & Mouzer said:
If it is ok and no huge deal, can I leave this all as a +5
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I would leave it as it is.

I would get confused like this as well so what I started doing ws keeping a notebook and I would write test times (in my time down) and snack times down, so I could work it out more easily. After a bit I got so used to FD timings I didn't need to do it.
 
Gill & George said:
I think it's been an hour and half since he had the MC, so it would be good to get a test at +5.5, that will be 2 hours since the extra carbs, and then we can be sure he's sustaining himself without the carbs.


I would leave it as it is.

I would get confused like this as well so what I started doing ws keeping a notebook and I would write test times (in my time down) and snack times down, so I could work it out more easily. After a bit I got so used to FD timings I didn't need to do it.
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I do have a notebook but I write it the same as I do the SS - I havent thought to write exact time - Just been doin the + numbers and using colored pens to match the number with the color on the SS. I will start writing time and + number ... And I have been trying to hurry back to do the SS because I know you are helping me and I feel a need for you to be able to see real fast, so I am kind of shaking when I do it through these greens haha
 
Mouzer!!

looks like the MC from earlier wore off, little stinker.

I think you need to get him to eat something.

As he's on SLGS and you are taking the reduction, you have a couple of options.
1) you could get him to come up by giving him some MC/HC gravy now.
2) or if you want you can see if some LC will help him stay above 50

In either case I think you need to test again in 30min.
 
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