? 3/1 Trixie AMBG 101 - Going back on AB - Vitamin B Question

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Amy&TrixieCat

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Mixed condo for Trix today...for the most part, I can say my usual happy appy, snuggly, spunky, feisty, and anti-jinxes....but it is mixed. Her appy was so-so again last evening; better again this morning. She is being snuggly and social and she was definitely feisty at gelcap time, but there is also something about her demeanor again that tells me something is most likely brewing....her tail posture is droopy (but not always), her leg posture is a bit crouchy (but not always), she's moving slower than usual (she's never speedy anymore to begin with)...that sort of thing - all of which were way better when she was on the Simplecef.

And, last night someone did leave a little pee puddle just outside one of the boxes. We don't know who because we didn't see it happen, but of course Trix would be my first suspect...and this is something that has never ever happened with anyone before. And, this morning she did go to three different boxes before picking one to pee in...pee did seem normal once she went, though. And, of course, her appy is not where it was when she was on the last AB.

So, I did call the vet and request that she fill the Zeniquin; I'm going to go pick it up shortly. Trix really is hard cat to read, though, because she's always been so mellow. The rest of my crew is so hyper that it's easy to tell when they're off; with her, it's much more subtle. And, honestly, if I didn't see such a huge difference when she was on the last AB, I probably wouldn't think anything of the subtleties I'm seeing now.

Hopefully this is the right decision because I don't want to overdo the ABs, but I do sense something is amiss. And, the fact that her WBC count was down from where it was in December but still at the high end of normal after all those ABs she had (10 day course; 10 day break; 28 day course) - that's not HER normal, so that has me suspicious, too. The AB may or may not correct the changes in BW, but hopefully it will do something positive.

@Wendy&Neko - Trix had been on 2.5mg benazepril BID for 3 years. She weighed quite a bit more when we started her on it and since dosing is based on weight, my thinking is maybe she's now over-dose with 2.5mg BID. I did see quite in quite a few places (for both cats and humans) that benazepril can cause elevated potassium, so I figured trying to cut it back a bit might be worth a try.

I haven't started her on B vitamins yet, but that is on my to-do list. Like your IM vetty, my vetty isn't too concerned about where she's at with the anemia yet, but if we can halt/slow the process, we should give it a go.

Anyway...in happier news, today is my civvie triplets, Noah, Petey, and Zen's, 14th birthday! Holy moly, I cannot believe they are 14. And they certainly don't act it!

With that, prayers to all with a few extras for Donna and Flame....

Amy
 
The only time I've had a cat pee outside the box was when they had an infection; it was their way of telling me that something was wrong. And I think you mentioned yesterday you suspected a kidney infection. So hopefully you see an improvement in Miss Trixie once she's back on the A/B.
Happy Birthday to your triplets!
 
Hope the new AB helps Amy. That's a great point about the benzapril. If dosage is based on weight, you may be on to something with Trixie.:bighug::bighug::bighug:

Happy 14th birthday to the civies!
 
Happy Birthday to your triplets, how adorable. Yep, Benazepril and Enalapril are basically the same thing and can increase potassium. FWIW, Doodles (18lbs) has been on 2.5mg BID of Enalapril for a year. When he started though his weight was 15.6lbs and the dose has not been changed. Hope the AB's get Miss Trix fixed up :bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
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Happy Birthday Noah, Petey and Zen! Go for it, guys! I bakes you a triple-layer cimmamum birthday cake with catmint icing. Enjoy!
~ Chef Rusty

Hi Amy, good luck with the antibiotic. I hope it will do the job and that Trix will return to her normal self.
BTW, we failed our first attempt to give the liquid A/B to Rusty. What a fighter! But then I put a dose in a spoonful of turkey baby food and he ate about half of it. I guess we'll try that again tomorrow. My hands are all scratched up.
 
:bighug:S and prayers to u and yours ...my civvie brothers celebrate their 14th in a few weeks too:bighug::cat::cat:
 
Happy birthday Triplets!:)

Neko lost weight last year too, but we adjusted the benazapril dose based on what the urine protein/creatinine ratio test told us. It's another one of those balancing acts. Too high proteinuria can also damage kidneys.:banghead:

As for B vitamins, I wasn't always giving Neko full dose, just a little bit more to help support her. Basically I'd stuff any spare room in the gelcap with a little bit of the Jarrows BRight. I wasn't fond of the idea of adding yet another gelcap to the routine. :eek: And it did seem to help her HCT numbers.

Good luck with the Zenequin. You epitomize the saying "momma knows best" when it comes to Trixie. :bighug:
 
Quick questions about a good vitamin B complex. I was just about to order Jarrows when I looked at Tanya's CKD site...it says that it was reforumlated to contain Calcium Phosphate, plus it contains sugar. Can anyone share thoughts about whether or not I should use this with Trix?
 
I read somewhere (I think on Tanya's site), that people have been able to find the old formulation on store shelves, with an expiry date I think of 2018. I have some of the old version at home. Unfortunately it expires in March 2017 or I'd send it to you.
 
I read somewhere (I think on Tanya's site), that people have been able to find the old formulation on store shelves, with an expiry date I think of 2018.

I saw that...unfortunately I really don't have time for the wild goose chase in hopes of possibly finding it without guarantees that I actually will. I was hoping to order online....
 
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