Buddy's SS up and going 2nd part about dosing

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You can try Neosporin on his ears - a tiny smear. Also holding the ear for a few seconds after poking helps minimize bruising.

He is doing very well and so are you! Think about how much you have learned in such a short time.
 
I agree with upping it to 1
I know that his dose sometimes needs to be changed . Buddy went to the vet for a curve (1st time) she upped his dose 2 units and when I checked him 1st time he was @41. next time @35. I had only run a test on him a few times at that point, so glad I did that night. Think that is why when we start talking of upping his dose, I feel panic stricken. He had an appointment for 2/1/17 for another curve, I e-mailed a copy of Buddy's SS to the vet and canceled his appt.
 
Yes, I think you can: maybe AM/PM before shot, mid day and one more before bed unless he decides to have what we call an "active cycle". Many people here put Neosporin ointment with pain relief of kitty's ears. Maybe try that?
I am getting ready to leave and just took a reading Bud is @176. Opened up RC for him to eat and he won't eat, gave him this so he would not drop a lot while I was gone. If I am gone 2-3 hrs should he drop a lot.
 
I am getting ready to leave and just took a reading Bud is @176. Opened up RC for him to eat and he won't eat, gave him this so he would not drop a lot while I was gone. If I am gone 2-3 hrs should he drop a lot.
He probably will be OK. Leave a little RC out for him.
 
I am getting ready to leave and just took a reading Bud is @176. Opened up RC for him to eat and he won't eat, gave him this so he would not drop a lot while I was gone. If I am gone 2-3 hrs should he drop a lot.
He's fine. 176 is still high. Hopefully in 3 hours he will be closer to 100. This is what we want to see.
 
He probably will be OK. Leave a little RC out for him.
I have been home for a few minutes in that time I took a reading and his #126. I left out the RC & FF, he did not eat either one. I have no idea what is wrong , before I left I gave him 1/4 of a nausea pill. When I came back and he had not eaten, I gave him a small piece of an appetite stimulant. If he does not eat this evening, I do not know what to do about his insulin.
Tomorrow he was supposed to go in for a curve and I called and canceled the appointment. If he does not start eating tomorrow he will be seen by vet, I just don't know which one.
 
You can try Neosporin on his ears - a tiny smear. Also holding the ear for a few seconds after poking helps minimize bruising.

He is doing very well and so are you! Think about how much you have learned in such a short time.
I have been using Bacitracin on his ears, it does not have a steroid in it. There is still a lot I do not know.
 
I have been home for a few minutes in that time I took a reading and his #126. I left out the RC & FF, he did not eat either one. I have no idea what is wrong , before I left I gave him 1/4 of a nausea pill. When I came back and he had not eaten, I gave him a small piece of an appetite stimulant. If he does not eat this evening, I do not know what to do about his insulin.
Tomorrow he was supposed to go in for a curve and I called and canceled the appointment. If he does not start eating tomorrow he will be seen by vet, I just don't know which one.
He doesn't have to eat much before getting insulin. Will he eat dry food? In a situation like this getting him to eat something is more important than his BG number. If he refuses to eat anything, no insulin and have him checked by the vet tomorrow. Are episodes like this common for Buddy? Has he ever had pancreatitis?
 
He doesn't have to eat much before getting insulin. Will he eat dry food? In a situation like this getting him to eat something is more important than his BG number. If he refuses to eat anything, no insulin and have him checked by the vet tomorrow. Are episodes like this common for Buddy? Has he ever had pancreatitis?
Yes, he has a history of chronic pancreatitis, that is why I keep the nausea medicine on hand. I have some pain meds on hand, but then all he will do is sleep. That is alright if he is in pain, but I would like for him to eat first. I put up the YA, guess I could get it out. The dry food was smart thinking on your part, because when he has pancreatitis he wants dry food not wet.
 
Yes, he has a history of chronic pancreatitis, that is why I keep the nausea medicine on hand. I have some pain meds on hand, but then all he will do is sleep. That is alright if he is in pain, but I would like for him to eat first. I put up the YA, guess I could get it out. The dry food was smart thinking on your part, because when he has pancreatitis he wants dry food not wet.
Kris, that was so smart of you. He ate some YA (I forgot to measure again) and RC. The appetite stimulant kicked in and so did the YA. Buddy has not been fond of most wet food, he got food aversion with several bouts of pancreatitis.
The only wet food he would eat was FF liver & chicken grilled and he would eat the RC. I will let you know later how things are going.
 
Yes, he has a history of chronic pancreatitis, that is why I keep the nausea medicine on hand. I have some pain meds on hand, but then all he will do is sleep. That is alright if he is in pain, but I would like for him to eat first. I put up the YA, guess I could get it out. The dry food was smart thinking on your part, because when he has pancreatitis he wants dry food not wet.
Good news!
Buddy came back and ate some RC at about 6:10, so I will be a little later with numbers. Since he was wanting to eat I did not want to stop him. What happens if after taking his numbers, he will not eat.
 
Buddy came back and ate some RC at about 6:10, so I will be a little later with numbers. Since he was wanting to eat I did not want to stop him. What happens if after taking his numbers, he will not eat.
Will you wait 2 hours before testing to get a non food influenced test? Probably best to do that and then move your AM time tomorrow a bit. Try giving him a few YA kibbles before his shot. They're concentrated so should be enough.
 
Will you wait 2 hours before testing to get a non food influenced test? Probably best to do that and then move your AM time tomorrow a bit. Try giving him a few YA kibbles before his shot. They're concentrated so should be enough.
Yes I will wait until 8:10 p.m. to get a non food influenced test. If he does not eat anything should I give shot.
 
Yes I will wait until 8:10 p.m. to get a non food influenced test. If he does not eat anything should I give shot.
I don't know what to say. Why not try a couple of kibbles right after his 8:10 PM test to see if he's interested. If he eats even 6 or so of the YA, give his shot. Then you can put out a few mores YA kibbles for him to graze on afterward. If there's no interest, skip the shot.

Do you have both antinausea and appetitite stimulant meds? People on here always say to give both when the kitty is off his food.
 
Will you wait 2 hours before testing to get a non food influenced test? Probably best to do that and then move your AM time tomorrow a bit. Try giving him a few YA kibbles before his shot. They're concentrated so should be enough.
His # 454, that is pretty high. He ate some more YA, guess I am giving 1u. Do you think the YA and RC raised his numbers that much, or could it be because he is sick.
 
His # 454, that is pretty high. He ate some more YA, guess I am giving 1u. Do you think the YA and RC raised his numbers that much, or could it be because he is sick.
Hard to say, Teresa. If it's food, the RC is the more likely culprit. He'll be OK with 1u.
 
I don't know what to say. Why not try a couple of kibbles right after his 8:10 PM test to see if he's interested. If he eats even 6 or so of the YA, give his shot. Then you can put out a few mores YA kibbles for him to graze on afterward. If there's no interest, skip the shot.

Do you have both antinausea and appetitite stimulant meds? People on here always say to give both when the kitty is off his food.
Yes, I have 2 different kinds of anti-nausea meds and 1 kind of appetite stimulant. Sometimes I can give anti-nausea meds and he will come around and eat, but not today. I gave him an anti-nausea pill earlier today, guess it did not work. When I came back I gave him an appetite stimulant & anti-nausea meds. He did eat some more YA, before his shot. He has slept most of the day. Poor little guy.
 
Hard to say, Teresa. If it's food, the RC is the more likely culprit. He'll be OK with 1u.
Buddy is still just laying around, he is not following after me like he always does. At 2a.m. he was @367. He now has some meds on board, to see if I can get him to eat. He is going today to see the doctor today. I will test him shortly, we might not wait until 8:00, it depends on if he is acting as though he wants to eat.
 
Buddy is still just laying around, he is not following after me like he always does. At 2a.m. he was @367. He now has some meds on board, to see if I can get him to eat. He is going today to see the doctor today. I will test him shortly, we might not wait until 8:00, it depends on if he is acting as though he wants to eat.
I'm sorry he's not feeling well. Good idea to have the vet look at him. The high red number last night could have been a bounce from the blues mid day.
 
I'm sorry he's not feeling well. Good idea to have the vet look at him. The high red number last night could have been a bounce from the blues mid day.
He has not ate anything. If he does not eat do you think I should hold the insulin. If he would eat later should I give shot then, or wait till the evening shot.
 
He has not ate anything. If he does not eat do you think I should hold the insulin. If he would eat later should I give shot then, or wait till the evening shot.
When is your vet appointment? If he'll eat some kibble give him a little and then give him his shot. It's important to keep the insulin going in if at all possible to avoid DKA. As for the rest of the day, it all depends on what your vet says is going on. I know your vet had him on too high a dose of insulin initially but do you trust his judgment in other areas?
 
When is your vet appointment? If he'll eat some kibble give him a little and then give him his shot. It's important to keep the insulin going in if at all possible to avoid DKA. As for the rest of the day, it all depends on what your vet says is going on. I know your vet had him on too high a dose of insulin initially but do you trust his judgment in other areas?
He will not eat anything at all. I am going to his old vet, I am getting ready to leave. Should I shot or not.
 
Sorry - I was otherwise occupied and didn't see this. Am going out now. will check in later.
took him to vet he was running a temp and dehydrated. She ran a blood panel, nothing besides being dehydrated and diabetic. She wants me to give him insulin without eating, she wanted him to have 2u now and 1u tonight whether he eats or not. What do you think.
 
Sorry - I was otherwise occupied and didn't see this. Am going out now. will check in later.
Buddy finally took a few bites of Purnia OM, he tried so hard to eat but could make himself eat anymore. She insisted one of the reasons he did not want to eat was because his Blood Sugar was high. She wanted me to give him 2u today, whether he ate or not. She said to give him 1u tonight whether he ate or not. At 12:35 I finally gave him 1.5u, just hope he is alright. She said she did not trust human meters with pets only Alpha Tract. A lot of people on FBMB use human meters.
 
You are stuck between a vet and your pocketbook and your judgement. I think you have to figure he is your cat and you don't want to harm him.. I think 1.5 is a good compromise but.....

Have you gotten a ketone test? Did she get one? That is first. If he is running a temp, he could have an infection and that plus not eating is deadly. If he has even slight ketones, he needs to be under a vet's care. They may need to give him insulin and nutrients and watch him carefully.

If there are no ketones, keep testing for them today so you catch them if he starts. Have you tried baby food? Sometimes that (the kind without spices) and putting it on your finger helps get them eating again. There are no easy answers. Yes, he needs insulin but he also needs food. If he absolutely won't eat, try feeding him with a syringe. The vet should be able to help with that or there are directions here:

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/syringe-assisted-feeding-video-and-tips.144367/
 
Have you tested for ketones? Ketodiastix from the human pharmacy - put the strip into the urine stream or hold a shallow spoon under his backside while he pees. Doesn't take much urine for a test. Wait 15 seconds and view the strip under good light. Trace - call your vet for advice. More than trace - he'll need vet intervention.
 
You are stuck between a vet and your pocketbook and your judgement. I think you have to figure he is your cat and you don't want to harm him.. I think 1.5 is a good compromise but.....

Have you gotten a ketone test? Did she get one? That is first. If he is running a temp, he could have an infection and that plus not eating is deadly. If he has even slight ketones, he needs to be under a vet's care. They may need to give him insulin and nutrients and watch him carefully.

If there are no ketones, keep testing for them today so you catch them if he starts. Have you tried baby food? Sometimes that (the kind without spices) and putting it on your finger helps get them eating again. There are no easy answers. Yes, he needs insulin but he also needs food. If he absolutely won't eat, try feeding him with a syringe. The vet should be able to help with that or there are directions here:

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/syringe-assisted-feeding-video-and-tips.144367/[/QUOTE]D She did total blood panel would that show any problems with kidneys. She did put him on Veraflox which is an antibiotic and gave him fluids. I have baby food and I know how to feed with a syringe. I think I might put some of his FF classic in a syringe and feed him. I will run out to try and find test strips after feeding him. At Walmart where would they be at.
 
Have you tested for ketones? Ketodiastix from the human pharmacy - put the strip into the urine stream or hold a shallow spoon under his backside while he pees. Doesn't take much urine for a test. Wait 15 seconds and view the strip under good light. Trace - call your vet for advice. More than trace - he'll need vet intervention.
I have just been syringe feeding Buddy FF beef feast put in the blender with water added. I am going to Walmart, when I come back I am going to try and see if I can get RC wet to the point I can syringe feed. Has anyone had any luck putting dry food in blender and being able to syringe feed.
 
I have just been syringe feeding Buddy FF beef feast put in the blender with water added. I am going to Walmart, when I come back I am going to try and see if I can get RC wet to the point I can syringe feed. Has anyone had any luck putting dry food in blender and being able to syringe feed.
Maybe buy some meat in broth baby food (plain - no seasonings) too? Don't know about putting kibble in blender though.
 
Maybe buy some meat in broth baby food (plain - no seasonings) too? Don't know about putting kibble in blender though.
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Maybe buy some meat in broth baby food (plain - no seasonings) too? Don't know about putting kibble in blender though.
I have plain chicken in broth baby food here, I will also try that. I did not know that ketones needed to be checked, if I had known I would have asked for it to be done. I am back from Walmart with the ketone strips, now to catch him peeing. Seems like I am at Walmart every day. The doctor he saw today was his old doctor. I faxed her his SS.
 
I hav
I have plain chicken in broth baby food here, I will also try that. I did not know that ketones needed to be checked, if I had known I would have asked for it to be done. I am back from Walmart with the ketone strips, now to catch him peeing. Seems like I am at Walmart every day. The doctor he saw today was his old doctor. I faxed her his SS.
I gave you the shallow spoon tip for getting a urine sample. That's what I do with Teasel. Some people put a double layer of plastic food wrap over their kitty's favourite area of the litter box to catch a little urine in the folds.
 
I gave you the shallow spoon tip for getting a urine sample. That's what I do with Teasel. Some people put a double layer of plastic food wrap over their kitty's favourite area of the litter box to catch a little urine in the folds.
I called the doctor and asked her if she checked Buddy today for ketones, she said you only check for ketones once you have liver damage and Buddy has no liver damage. I do not know if that is all doctor's opinion or not. I bought some ketone strips to use so I will try. Buddy is really feeling bad, he is just laying around sleeping. I am worried about him, I syringed fed him some FF classic and then later some RC. I will syringe feed him before I give him more insulin. Hope he is better tomorrow.
I gave you the shallow spoon tip for getting a urine sample. That's what I do with Teasel. Some people put a double layer of plastic food wrap over their kitty's favourite area of the litter box to catch a little urine in the folds.
 
She is wrong. Here is information about ketones:

http://www.felinediabetes.com/ketones.htm

Maybe if you get a little food in him - especially watered down - he will need to pee. You might bring the litter box in near where he is. Another idea is to fill it with clean litter. Sometimes they want to "christen" a clean box.

Couple choices - call around to an emergency vet, describe his symptoms and see if they will do a ketone test. (They can use a needle to get urine). Or continue to syringe feed, maybe giving water by syringe also and try the litter box ideas to see if you can get a ketone test.
 
The ketone test is super important. That's my first thought when you described his symptoms. Gypsy usually crawled in the box and immediately squatted, allowing me to stick the strip right in her urine stream. The other options Sue and Kris gave work well too. But it's really important...not to worry you, but the earlier you catch it if is DKA, the better chances you have.
 
The ketone test is super important. That's my first thought when you described his symptoms. Gypsy usually crawled in the box and immediately squatted, allowing me to stick the strip right in her urine stream. The other options Sue and Kris gave work well too. But it's really important...not to worry you, but the earlier you catch it if is DKA, the better chances you have.
What is DKA
 
Diabetic Ketoacidosis. There's a link at the top of this forum about ketones that gives more info. But it is very dangerous and super important to test for ketones...especially when the cat is in high numbers.
 
Diabetic Ketoacidosis. There's a link at the top of this forum about ketones that gives more info. But it is very dangerous and super important to test for ketones...especially when the cat is in high numbers.
Why would a doctor not mention this. I took him to his old doctor today, and I called the other one tonight not 1 mention. The new 1 did ask if he had been peeing a lot, which he has not.
 
She is wrong. Here is information about ketones: There is no emergency vet, the only 1 is several hours away.

http://www.felinediabetes.com/ketones.htm

Maybe if you get a little food in him - especially watered down - he will need to pee. You might bring the litter box in near where he is. Another idea is to fill it with clean litter. Sometimes they want to "christen" a clean box.

Couple choices - call around to an emergency vet, describe his symptoms and see if they will do a ketone test. (They can use a needle to get urine). Or continue to syringe feed, maybe giving water by syringe also and try the litter box ideas to see if you can get a ketone test.
 
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