Hello from France, I'm trying to help my loved cat and search for help if someone had informations or any experiences on berberine or quercetin use please?(dosage, long term, etc?)
After all the studies I read it can really help in dabiete disease.
My little 3 years old kitty has developped autoimmune hemolytic anemia (her own body attack her white blood cells) following a vaccine reaction.After a really hard anemia, she is on cortisone now and slowly come back to normal, but this disease generally come back quickly with lot of relapses and a high proportion of these animals died in the coming months or 2/3 years. The cortisone will be tappered slowly and try to take her off the med. That's where Berberine/quercetin could save her life in controlling the disease activity severity or relapses. Cause without nothing, the relapse will come back with deadly/more severity in 6/12/24 months in the majority of cases of AIHA (after vaccination) I saw online.
There is different studies showing how Berberine can slow this disease activity, ease the symptoms, and help to have less or no relapses in autoimmune hemolytic anemia via his mechanism (inhibition of Th17cells, IL17, IL 23, act on the PPARy, antioxydant, anticoagulant, antiviral etc etc)
Berberine is not that well absorbed apparently and studies show how in combination with a P-gp inhibitor , absorption was increase. And Quercetin acts as a P-gp inhibitor ( but also acts on the Th17 cells, Il 17, etc)
That's why a combo of this two could really help to prolonged my cat's life and she would really benefit from it when she will be no more on cortisone.
But I now need to understand what safe dosage I could make for her daily supplement. Even my vet who is a traditionnal told me after I showed him things that it could be great benefit to try it but admit that he has no knowledge about all that natural stuff and couldn't help me with dosage/ect.
I come here as after hours of research studies, I saw that the natural things I was searching that could help her disease especially Berberine quercetin and curcumin was linked to Diabete as the majority of the studies trying those natural compounds were treating diabete humans or animals with some good results.
That's why I came here searching for help in knowledge/dosage on berberine and quercetin as maybe someone already tried it or have infos/experiences on its use. As I'm quite lost on this final step. This cat is so important to me and I can't stay without doing nothing and just wait for her deadly relapse (or if not Deadly the first time, then it's cortisone (dermipred) for life long term until the next relapse or Deadly complications because of the cortisone administration)
After all the recent studies I read, It is certain that she will benefit from Berberine/quercetin, but I still have to be cautious about the dosage (even if in all the studies it says that Berberine is safe except maybe little diarrhea that can be overcomed in divided the dose in 3 daily take)
For the quercetin, I read on a online dogs health site : "Take the weight of your pet and multiply it by 1000mg, then divide it by 125 to get the milligram dosage your pet needs" . It says its the same and safe for cats use, also that Quercetin could be given for 12 weeks consecutivly and then make a pause.
Any one know if that way of calculate the dosage for quercetin is really accurate?
But I especially search for help for Berberine. (i saw that golden seal extract is given to some dogs and cats and it contains a lot berberine but I still don't find an average safe daily dosage. I read on a 'vetasking 'website someone said " my vet give to my cat Berberine once daily but he really don't like the taste", the vet answered about the taste issue, but anything about dosage. The person who asked the question is Anonymous, otherwise I would have contact her for dosage,etc..
So there it is, sorry for this enormous text, but I needed to explain why I search nd what I know for the moment. Hope someone can help me in to prolonged my cat's life. She need those things to try to help her to live 'normally' with this disease and limit its activity/relapses while she'll be off cortisone.
I have the Berberine powder, the quercetin/bromelain, the empty gel caps for cat, but I need to act safely about dosage of course, that's where I'm quite lost. Never used herbal suppléments,etc
ps: oh and if you never heard about Berberine, I recommend you to look at some recent studies as it show it can be really helpful to control diabete disease mechanism
Thank you!
After all the studies I read it can really help in dabiete disease.
My little 3 years old kitty has developped autoimmune hemolytic anemia (her own body attack her white blood cells) following a vaccine reaction.After a really hard anemia, she is on cortisone now and slowly come back to normal, but this disease generally come back quickly with lot of relapses and a high proportion of these animals died in the coming months or 2/3 years. The cortisone will be tappered slowly and try to take her off the med. That's where Berberine/quercetin could save her life in controlling the disease activity severity or relapses. Cause without nothing, the relapse will come back with deadly/more severity in 6/12/24 months in the majority of cases of AIHA (after vaccination) I saw online.
There is different studies showing how Berberine can slow this disease activity, ease the symptoms, and help to have less or no relapses in autoimmune hemolytic anemia via his mechanism (inhibition of Th17cells, IL17, IL 23, act on the PPARy, antioxydant, anticoagulant, antiviral etc etc)
Berberine is not that well absorbed apparently and studies show how in combination with a P-gp inhibitor , absorption was increase. And Quercetin acts as a P-gp inhibitor ( but also acts on the Th17 cells, Il 17, etc)
That's why a combo of this two could really help to prolonged my cat's life and she would really benefit from it when she will be no more on cortisone.
But I now need to understand what safe dosage I could make for her daily supplement. Even my vet who is a traditionnal told me after I showed him things that it could be great benefit to try it but admit that he has no knowledge about all that natural stuff and couldn't help me with dosage/ect.
I come here as after hours of research studies, I saw that the natural things I was searching that could help her disease especially Berberine quercetin and curcumin was linked to Diabete as the majority of the studies trying those natural compounds were treating diabete humans or animals with some good results.
That's why I came here searching for help in knowledge/dosage on berberine and quercetin as maybe someone already tried it or have infos/experiences on its use. As I'm quite lost on this final step. This cat is so important to me and I can't stay without doing nothing and just wait for her deadly relapse (or if not Deadly the first time, then it's cortisone (dermipred) for life long term until the next relapse or Deadly complications because of the cortisone administration)
After all the recent studies I read, It is certain that she will benefit from Berberine/quercetin, but I still have to be cautious about the dosage (even if in all the studies it says that Berberine is safe except maybe little diarrhea that can be overcomed in divided the dose in 3 daily take)
For the quercetin, I read on a online dogs health site : "Take the weight of your pet and multiply it by 1000mg, then divide it by 125 to get the milligram dosage your pet needs" . It says its the same and safe for cats use, also that Quercetin could be given for 12 weeks consecutivly and then make a pause.
Any one know if that way of calculate the dosage for quercetin is really accurate?
But I especially search for help for Berberine. (i saw that golden seal extract is given to some dogs and cats and it contains a lot berberine but I still don't find an average safe daily dosage. I read on a 'vetasking 'website someone said " my vet give to my cat Berberine once daily but he really don't like the taste", the vet answered about the taste issue, but anything about dosage. The person who asked the question is Anonymous, otherwise I would have contact her for dosage,etc..
So there it is, sorry for this enormous text, but I needed to explain why I search nd what I know for the moment. Hope someone can help me in to prolonged my cat's life. She need those things to try to help her to live 'normally' with this disease and limit its activity/relapses while she'll be off cortisone.
I have the Berberine powder, the quercetin/bromelain, the empty gel caps for cat, but I need to act safely about dosage of course, that's where I'm quite lost. Never used herbal suppléments,etc
ps: oh and if you never heard about Berberine, I recommend you to look at some recent studies as it show it can be really helpful to control diabete disease mechanism
Thank you!
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