? 07/20 Small Kitty amps 178 +5.5 324 +9 360 pmps 400 +3 283 +4.5 214 amps 415

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Photorecon

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Good Morning everybody,

So here we are, 2 days to departure and purple @+11. A midcycle turned yellow last night, not so bad. Lantus stick, dating from June the 2nd was almost empty, new one will be used for my vacation, hope it's strength will be the same as the old one..

Early this morning @ +11 GL was just slightly higher then shot time (pmps 293 +11 317), Lantus is doing it's job.

Waiting for my ''buddy'', 15 min to spare before shot time... No food or anything else prepared..


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Yesterday
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...s-502-pmps-293-3-5-247-getting-better.161590/
 
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Good Morning Sebastien, I hope all went way with your helper and the lessons today.

That was big drop from the +11 to the AMPS, it might be a good idea to put some MC food in the feeder today since you won't be testing again. Or is your helper coming during the day today?
 
Heck, extra test are no luxury.. Did an extra at +11 and now, at amps, and the drop is of 140.

Do you think this is something to be expected ? The case being if he's in the green and alone that means a shake on it's back...

BTW, guy is not here yet and got to leave, don't thing any word can make someone change in 2 days.
that s:mad:cks. So easy to set an alarm clock to be on time.

Pray for me that my other guy is available or things change in a drastic manner...

At least this blue is comforting..

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Sébastien, that is :(
 
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Bobbie And Bubba said:
Good Morning Sebastien, I hope all went way with your helper and the lessons today.

That was big drop from the +11 to the AMPS, it might be a good idea to put some MC food in the feeder today since you won't be testing again. Or is your helper coming during the day today?
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In the feeder or on the floor ? Set for how long ?
 
The blue is a great number and not a dangerous one, it's just that he dropped so much in that last hour and you can't monitor today. That is why I suggested the MC food.
 
Considering the big drop from +11 to AMPS I would leave some HC food out in the feeder. It is possible that SK may still be dropping and without anyone to check the extra carbs would be a good idea. Personally I would have shot a reduced dose. My opinion

ETA If the person who was SUPPOSED to show up for the AM test and shoot can drop by during the day and get a test that would be a good idea. Unfortunately it looks like he is not very trustworthy. :(
 
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Tuxedo Mom said:
Considering the big drop from +11 to AMPS I would leave some HC food out in the feeder. It is possible that SK may still be dropping and without anyone to check the extra carbs would be a good idea. Personally I would have shot a reduced dose. My opinion
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Thanks Mary Ann, I tend to be conservative with the carbs since Bubba comes up so nicely with even LC food.
 
Bobbie And Bubba said:
Thanks Mary Ann, I tend to be conservative with the carbs since Bubba comes up so nicely with even LC food.
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With a dropping number and the fact that SK has done some nose dives in recent days, and without being able to monitor I would tend to err on the side of caution.

ETA SK has obviously cleared the bounce/furshot/high carb treats. If you look at July 15 he went from AMPS of 439 to +11.75 of 51 and on July 17 from AMPS of 398 to PMPS of 182. This is a lower dose than those days but SK does have a habit of being very dramatic with his drops
 
Hi there, I agree with Bobby since you shot that 178 which appears to be a falling number it would be best to leave some food out, higher in carb, how high, depends on how carb sensitive SK is, if you don't know or are unsure I would agree caution may be the best way forward and opt for HC.


With George and a falling amps. he could nose dive early on so I would usually give him some food at hourly intervals from +1 to +3 (of the higher carrb variety)

Perhaps give him some higher carb as you head out the door and set an extra snack for +2, keeping his normal +3 and +5 feeds. (otherwise you are probably going to run out of autofeeder slots)
 
Tuxedo Mom said:
Considering the big drop from +11 to AMPS I would leave some HC food out in the feeder. It is possible that SK may still be dropping and without anyone to check the extra carbs would be a good idea. Personally I would have shot a reduced dose. My opinion

ETA If the person who was SUPPOSED to show up for the AM test and shoot can drop by during the day and get a test that would be a good idea. Unfortunately it looks like he is not very trustworthy. :(
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This is what I did for +2, Friskes on gravy + typical feeding.
 
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Tuxedo Mom said:
With a dropping number and the fact that SK has done some nose dives in recent days, and without being able to monitor I would tend to err on the side of caution.

ETA SK has obviously cleared the bounce/furshot/high carb treats. If you look at July 15 he went from AMPS of 439 to +11.75 of 51 and on July 17 from AMPS of 398 to PMPS of 182. This is a lower dose than those days but SK does have a habit of being very dramatic with his drops
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That's gonna be tricky on defining the safe dose for when I'm going to leave for vacation (9 days out)..
 
Photorecon said:
That's gonna be tricky on defining the safe dose for when I'm going to leave for vacation (9 days out)..
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Very true, as well as whether the person you have coming is reliable enough to test and do the shots AND be able to come back and retest at mid cycle. As well will they be able to load the feeder with the proper food for the proper times? These are all things that need to be taken into consideration on choosing a safe vacation dose.
 
I called the guy, was garbage day... that's why he was late.... Super good reason..

As a correction he's going to test at +5, my phone number is on the table, if it's dangerous
he,ll call me.

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Gill & George said:
When do you leave exactly date and time? (trying to figure out how many cycles to go.


Indeed it is. How reliable is your sitter? The guy never came this morning did he?
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Last shot given by me is Friday Morning. The sitter has little time left to proof his reliability.
Knowing it would have been like that I would not have lost all that time in training and coaching.
Since Monday there's not a single day he was on time. All left when he came was testing and it had already been done. At least he know where things are and what has to be done, when to do it.

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Photorecon said:
I called the guy, was garbage day... that's why he was late.... Super good reason..

As a correction he's going to test at +5, my phone number is on the table, if it's dangerous
he,ll call me.

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Hopefully the +5 test will happen with no problems. This will be a good test run for whether things will work out when you are gone. ;)
 
Photorecon said:
Last shot given by me is Friday Morning.
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Then ideally you need to settle on a vacation dose and shoot it on thursday morning.

The reason for that is to make sure that the depot has time to settle so that the sitter doesn't have to deal with a diving SK.

ETA so that gives you some time to see what sk is going to do with this 1.75, I hope the sitter gets the +5 today, that will be very informative.
BTW make sure to note on your ss when you gave HC today (or any other day for that matter) it helps when looking back and trying to analyse the numbers, it can be a useful tool for you when faced with a similar situation, you can look back on ss and see what you did and how that worked out.:)
 
As Small Kitty is going up and down, there might be time where GL could be dangerously low.

To make things simple, I found that Friskies is a good brand of food for medium high Carb level.

Could someone confirm that I will recommand the right weapon to fight low GL.

Found that in a chart :

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Does this make sens ? For what kind of numbers would one be better then the other ?

If this is taking too much of your time forget it, I'll hope for the best. I've a couple of cans of Gravy,
that would be it, all or nothing, he's gonna turn red immediately.

Are the FF Grilled as bad in Carb, have a lot of them also ?

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Got to be ready for all sort of situations.
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Found this on a previous post :
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/...329-first-reduction-ever.160944/#post-1720402

Tuxedo Mom said:
In Canada all the Friskies pates now have rice in them. My calculations place all the Friskies pates as a lower end MC food...around 11-13%. The FF pates in Canada seem to all be LC though. Wish they would keep the same formulations everywhere.
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Sounds MC is fixed as a jack of all trade with Friskies Pate. HC is the missing one, is the Gravy adequate, for what kind of situation ? Really needed ?

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The Friskies pates will work fine as a MC. The Friskies with gravy and FF grilled would count as high carb. You would want to use HC if SK drops too low, especially early in the cycle. If early in the cycle the numbers go under 90 you could first try some MC to see if that brings him up. If that doesn't work after retesting 20 minutes later then a few drops of syrup and a teaspoon of HC might be in order. It is hard to say exactly what fits...it will depend on what the PS numbers were and how quickly or how far SK would fall.
 
You should have something in your Hypo Tool kit to bring BG up should the levels drop below 68.

For some kitties, MC (above 10 below 15%) will be enough, but for other kitties they need something higher more in the region of 20%.

I used MC or higher LC food (7-9%)most of the time with George, to steer his numbers up when he was dropping bu there was a number of occasions when he dropped into the low 40's (or lower/human meter) when I would use HC. When I first started to have to bump him up though I used HC (20-28%) by making notes of what I fed when and observing what effects these had on his BG I was able to 'fine tune' and learnt when to use MC or HC. It is a case of ECID, some kitties are more sensitive to carbs than others.
As SK has been running high for the most part and has only recently been visiting lower greens, and as you are going away and leaving SK with a cat sitter, I would try and get some HC so that the sitter has it at hand to use should he need it, if SK nose dives on him. I would try to keep it simple with the sitter if you feel he may get easily confused, so perhaps just leave him with HC (that's what I did with my sitter/less choice less chance of getting confused)

When I left George with a sitter I wrote out a manual, with extensive notes, instructions of what to do with low numbers or in event of a hypo, and also gave my sitter a no shoot number.

Here's a link to 'George's Manual'
Bear in mind this is an example and it covered issues that were important for George at the time (I was only away for 5 days), for SK you might want to include instructions for your sitter to test for ketones if he is running high and what to do if he gets a high reading of ketones. I've linked it to give you some ideas, you would need to personalize it for SK.(I hope the link works, if not let me know)
I left my sitter with log in details so if she couldn't contact me for help she could post up for help here on the board. (she never needed it:))
 
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The Friskies pates will work fine as a MC. The Friskies with gravy and FF grilled would count as high carb. You would want to use HC if SK drops too low, especially early in the cycle. If early in the cycle the numbers go under 90 you could first try some MC to see if that brings him up. If that doesn't work after retesting 20 minutes later then a few drops of syrup and a teaspoon of HC might be in order. It is hard to say exactly what fits...it will depend on what the PS numbers were and how quickly or how far SK would fall.
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Knowing that I might have busted Small Kitty's number, he had HC frisies gravy at +2.... :(
 
Photorecon said:
Knowing that I might have busted Small Kitty's number, he had HC frisies gravy at +2.... :(
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Considering a blue AM number 9.8 (178 US) that had dropped from 17.6 (317 US) at PM +11...over 40% drop...., I think that was a wise decision. As I said earlier in that situation where you are not able to stall and retest or test during the day (unless you buddy comes through for you) my thought would have been to do a one time reduction. Since you had already shot giving HC was the next best thing.
 
Gill & George said:
I would try to keep it simple with the sitter if you feel he may get easily confused, so perhaps just leave him with HC
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Instruction I gave my Sitter are pretty simple. There is two tablets in the food / FD storage cabinet. One full of LC, to be used
daily and the top one full of HC. Told him
-90 above : no shoot + HC in the feeder
54 below : Drops of maple syrup on HC food and if he doesn't eat to put some (syrup) on his gum.

Will look at your tool box right now.

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Photorecon said:
Instruction I gave my Sitter are pretty simple. There is two tablets in the food / FD storage cabinet. One full of LC, to be used
daily and the top one full of HC. Told him
-90 above : no shoot + HC in the feeder
54 below : Drops of maple syrup on HC food and if he doesn't eat to put some (syrup) on his gum.

Will look at your tool box right now.

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Whatever your instructions are I would write them down, people are prone to forget and get muddled up in an emergency.
I don't think my petsitter needed to use the instructions I wrote out for her but she had them there if she was in an emergency and could refer to them.
 
Photorecon said:
As Small Kitty is going up and down, there might be time where GL could be dangerously low.

To make things simple, I found that Friskies is a good brand of food for medium high Carb level.

Could someone confirm that I will recommand the right weapon to fight low GL.

Found that in a chart :

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Does this make sens ? For what kind of numbers would one be better then the other ?

If this is taking too much of your time forget it, I'll hope for the best. I've a couple of cans of Gravy,
that would be it, all or nothing, he's gonna turn red immediately.

Are the FF Grilled as bad in Carb, have a lot of them also ?

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Got to be ready for all sort of situations.
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What I gave was FF Chicken Feast in Gravy, 13 Carb
 
Sounds like my BUddy felt he was about to be fired (he's not paid) :) as he came twice today.

He was pretty surprise as I am myself, to see how Small Kitty stays on the table and doesn't
move after testing is done. He just stay there standing still. He told me it's almost like he
would have tell him he could go :)

These tests were good, I now know that MC food is sufficient to raise SL. Thing is we're now
in the red... Price to pay for safety I guess...

Also, this makes our planned dose even more messy, these purples and red are not ''real''...
 
Now you know that MC could do the job, safety first. Glad he came twice!

My pet sitter said that Bubba is better for him than he is for me. Guess it is the animal submissive thing.
 
Great that SK is such a good test subject, makes the testing much less stressful for everyone involved. I like to have my sitter send me a text message with the numbers, that way I know they tested and I worry less about the cat. I also leave written instructions and they can always call or text questions if a low number pops up.

Hopefully the buddy understands how much you care about SK and appreciate his help while you are away.
Photorecon said:
These tests were good, I now know that MC food is sufficient to raise SL. Thing is we're now
in the red... Price to pay for safety I guess...
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But it was a good and needed experiment to understand how SK reacts to MC food in case his numbers are dropping, one red number is worth the data.
 
saltycat said:
Great that SK is such a good test subject, makes the testing much less stressful for everyone involved. I like to have my sitter send me a text message with the numbers, that way I know they tested and I worry less about the cat. I also leave written instructions and they can always call or text questions if a low number pops up.

Hopefully the buddy understands how much you care about SK and appreciate his help while you are away.


But it was a good and needed experiment to understand how SK reacts to MC food in case his numbers are dropping, one red number is worth the data.
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Next trip will total disconnect I think. Not that I'm willing to but because my buddy is ''disconnected''. Don't ask me why, he doesn't
have phone at all... My last guy was texting me the results and NS and it was nice because, like you said, I knew he had done it.
Sad he turned snobbish.

If the phone doesn't ring it would mean everything is going alright (he would use my apartment phone).

Sure he'll be on time tomorrow, giving a chance pays some time.
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Can't sleep because there's too many thing in my head (not just cat) so went out of
bed to test... He's dropping to who knows where

+4.5 214. He's mewing like mad as when he's sugar low.. Lucky him food (little) is in
15 min..
 
Nice to see that SK is back in yellow, he sure is bouncy.
I think that the rise in numbers were part MC but also possible that that sharp drop, of almost 140pts in one hour triggered a bounce, or SK may have dropped even a little lower and started bouncing by +5. (remember fast drops as well as lower numbers can trigger bounces)

As for the vacation dose, usually most of us try to leave am on the line dose, and fill a sample syringe with a coloured liquid so that sitter has something to compare it to. Before my time, but I have heard stories of a sitter giving 5units instead of 0.5u:eek:

So for a vacation reduction that would leave you with 1.5u or 1u. Given SK progress down the dosing scale recently I would be worried that 1.5u would be taking him too low, I would be inclined to opt for 1u, but make sure that your sitter can test for ketones if SK is running high.

LOL on SK being so well behaved. BFG is the opposite, good as gold for me but he tried it on with my friend/sitter and drew blood:eek: Naughty kitty. LOL
 
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