Manon&Joy We're new and in need of assistance

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The pouches or cans I use are 85grams each, I have 1 variation that holds 175grams. He should eat about 2 or 3 cans (85gr) a day and he does more or less, its hard to tell exactly how much he eats it varies with Joy...
 
He has not eaten since right before +4, i would like to get a reading at +6 tbh...... and take away his food till then....
 
I agree with Sue. Go sleep. It's not so critical that we figure it out right now. Get some rest and we'll work on it and make some suggestions.

I know it seems like you need to know NOW but you don't. For tonight, Joy is okay. You need your rest.
 
Manon, please get some rest. You know he is in safe numbers, so the wobbly could be neuropathy or could be just tired. Heck, my cats seems to have a leg fall asleep sometimes and they start limping around for a bit after sleeping in one position. When you're super exhausted, you're going to panic over everything he does. Get some rest...Joy is okay for now.
 
I did a reading 15 minutes early from +8 its a little lower, its 21.3
he hasnt eaten since +4, my sheet doesnt work, i cant enter the numbers
 
So we have a plan, Manon. As long as Joy is in the 300s or higher for her next shot time, we are thinking you could give 0.8. Rachel and I will check in on you as soon as we can in our morning. We don't think he will drop low, but just in case, if he does, post here and on the Health forum so you have more people responding.

Robin is going to work with you on a feeding schedule. And we are wondering if you'd be interested in giving Joy raw food. It is supposed to be a great diet for all kinds of health issues and is low carb. We'll research and see if it will be okay with Joy's heart/kidney issues but think it will be good. @Ruby&Baco has found a prepackaged raw that Baco likes, available in the Netherlands.

Hope you got a rest.
 
I do not know how to put this in writing right now, but I just asked my mom to come over, she lives in Belgium and has been supporting me from there, I can see Joy is not going to make it through this, he weighs a little over 2kg and is suffering, I want/need to wait on my mom to get here and we will ask a vet to put Joy to sleep.

When I read back what I just typed, it sound so calm an collectieve, and im so not atm....

I will keep you posted on things, I will check back with you guys, you have been my rock through all of this.

I feel this is the right thing to do for him now...

I will give him his AMPS ofcourse
 
Dear Manon - My heart aches so much for you; I realize what a terribly hard decision this is to make (have been through it myself, more than once). Only you can really know what the best course is for your sweet boy now, and I respect your assessment of Joy's condition. It is so very obvious to me how much you love him ... there is no doubt in my mind that Joy knows this, too.

I am so relieved to hear that your mom is coming to be there with you and Joy. If there is anything we can do to be of support to you, please let us know. Sending you many, many virtual hugs from out here in Arizona. With deepest sympathy - Robin
 
@Sue and Oliver (GA) i'm here for the amps dose. I've read trough all the posts and if Joy's is above 300 he needs a dose of 0.80 is what i've read from @Robin&BB .
I'm also very sad to hear the news about Joy putting to sleep but I understand Manon's reason behind it.
Keep us updated Manon, we all are here for you:bighug:
 
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Just talked to Manon on the phone, her mom is arriving in a couple off minutes so she isn't alone anymore.
She will keep us updated today.
 
Oh Manon! I am so sorry. I'll tell you something that Sue once told me that has given me comfort. Whatever decision you make is the right one. It does, indeed, sound like Joy is telling you he's ready to go. We understand.

Know that this is the last, greatest gift we can give our kitties. Allowing them to be at peace is a testament to our love for them...and we all know how much you loved Joy. Trust me, dear, he also knows how much you love him.

I am so grateful your mom is there. This is a hard thing to go through alone. We are here for you as well. Sending you hugs and comfort. :bighug:
 
We talked it all through and we've descided not to put Joy through to be taken to a weekend-vet, I can't bare the thought of him beeing so stressed out and scared at a strange vets place being his final hours.
On monday I can call my vet and he will plan in a home appointment, I have discusses it a couple of times whith him so that will not be a problem.
We are going to make the comming 24 uurs as pleasant and loving and caring for Joy as possible, and more......
Ruby helped me with a food and measure schedule so his readings will be accurate, to keep him feeling oke
Please help us get through this somehow.......Im heartbroken and are crying my eyes out, but I want to try to make this all about Joy the next 24 hours, I'll break down afterwards.....
 
Don't worry too much about the sheet, Manon. Did you get a reading today? You gave the 0.8 right?
 
If you gave the 0.8, my suggestion is that you keep an eye on things to make sure he doesn't drop too low. Beyond that, don't worry too much. Just give him love and snuggles and let him know how loved he is...though I promise you he already knows.

Don't feel you need to be on here too much. We're here if you need something, but I know you want to be with Joy, and that's the right place to be. ((HUGS))
 
So very sorry you have to go through this Manon. We can all see how much you love Joy, and he knows it too. Sending hugs and prayers for you both at this difficult time.:bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug::bighug:
 
Oh Manon. I am so sorry to hear this. I am glad your mother will be with you.

You are the one who loves Joy the most and you are the one who knows when it is time. You have loved him well and for a long time, helping him through many illnesses. He knows you love him. Looking from his point of view, he has had lovely food and treats, pets and hugs, a warm safe bed and someone who cares for him always - what more could a kitty ask for?

Please take care of yourself. Get some rest when your mother is there.
 
:bighug::bighug::bighug: I am so sorry you are going through all of this. Spoil him rotten and give him all the love you can. The decision you make is out of love for him. Wishing you the very best day with Joy, I am glad your mom is there for you :bighug:
 
What do you mean by frozen? How are you trying to access it? You need to go to google docs Don't try to enter data by clicking on the link in this forum
 
i created google docs 3 days ago, i dont know how it works and where to find my sheet, ive been using the link in this forum so far...
how do i get to my sheet in google docs?
 
Manon,

It isn't terribly important - not something you need to worry about today. If you want, give us his numbers like this:

Amps
+2 (or 4 or 6 or how many hours from the shot)
Pmps

I hope you can spend your day loving him and talking to him - telling him how important he has been to you - and not worry about the diabetes.
 
But if it worries you, sign on to Google and then Google docs. There should be a place for My Documents. Your spreadsheet should be saved there. (It saves automatically)
 
thank you, we are doing that as best we can, i just worry about PMPS to get him through the night safely and feeling oke. He has been feeling good all day, he's tired, though he just sleeps and enjoys cuddles. He ate 75gr

AMPS was 25.1 +4 11.8 +7 12.1
 
AMPS 451
+4 212
+7 217

Ps. If Manon puts Joy's numbers up in mmol, please multiply by 18.
So 25.1 x 18 makes 451.

She doesn't need to also recalculate Joy's numbers, i find that she has a lot of other things on her mind and not recalculating these numbers. I will often check in if I need to recalculate it if she puts numbers up in this thread.

So just multiply by 18!

:bighug:
 
Manon

Your sheet is working just fine. You can’t enter numbers from within the board so you need to go to Google Drive not Google Docs. I’m going to PM you the link to your SS that is in Google Drive. I’m entering today’s numbers for you.
 
+9 = 18.0
he's very inactive, he just sleeps, he has eaten maybe 15gr and he doesnt drink much, so I'll add water to his PMPS meal and maybe get some water in using a syringe
 
I am so sorry I didn't read through this whole posting - only now saw the sad news. Manon, you are a rock and much stronger than you think - we all know that this is so difficult, and heartbreaking. Asking the universe to send strong, peaceful feelings your way. Wishing you a loving day filled with warm memories, and lots and lots of love (from Joy, your Mom, and all of us here) I am so, so so sorry
 
Today, as always, you continue to be a loving mom, thinking about his comfort. I too wish we were there to support you, but I hope it helps that you have loving thoughts and Internet hugs coming from across the ocean.
 
Just wanted to pop by again to say that you're doing a wonderful job. I know it's tough but you're giving him the love and comfort he needs. I know this day is wonderful for him.

Know that we're still here thinking of you, and sending you hugs and support.
 
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