ProZinc question

[Yvonne & Andy &BJ (GA)]

I picked up my foster cat Andy from the vet yesterday. They put him on ProZinc 6 units 2 x day. Last night he tested at 240 - gave 6 units. This morning he was 401 - gave 6 units. This evening he was 459 - gave 7 units but he jerked and I missed a little. A friend thinks 6 units is really high. I am not familiar with this newer ProZinc as my experience was 10 yrs ago. I was given Purina DM wet and dry and told he eats 1/2 5.5oz can plus abt a heaping Tablespoon dry. He is not a large cat. I don't feed my other cats that much volume but I never used the DM product so in the dark here. Any gut reaction on all of this? At this point, I am following drs orders ........

 

[Mogmom and Goofus]

I never give dosing advice, but my cat Goof' s first BG was 652, my vet started with 1 unit, twice daily. The highest I ever gave was 3 units twice daily.

 

[Bobbie And Bubba]

I picked up my foster cat Andy from the vet yesterday. They put him on ProZinc 6 units 2 x day. Last night he tested at 240 - gave 6 units. This morning he was 401 - gave 6 units. This evening he was 459 - gave 7 units but he jerked and I missed a little. A friend thinks 6 units is really high. I am not familiar with this newer ProZinc as my experience was 10 yrs ago. I was given Purina DM wet and dry and told he eats 1/2 5.5oz can plus abt a heaping Tablespoon dry. He is not a large cat. I don't feed my other cats that much volume but I never used the DM product so in the dark here. Any gut reaction on all of this? At this point, I am following drs orders ........

Hey, I gave a response on the other thread. 240 preshot is only 40 points higher than a NO Shot number for a newly diabetic cat. 6n units is way to much. How do you feel about starting over at 1 unit and posting daily on ProZinc Forum for help with dosing? I think you are in good hands here and the experienced peeps here will really be able to help you. I am so glad that you are home testing.

 

[Yvonne & Andy &BJ (GA)]

Hey, I gave a response on the other thread. 240 preshot is only 40 points higher than a NO Shot number for a newly diabetic cat. 6n units is way to much. How do you feel about starting over at 1 unit and posting daily on ProZinc Forum for help with dosing? I think you are in good hands here and the experienced peeps here will really be able to help you. I am so glad that you are home testing.

If he was my cat, I would not hesitate to do this. I am communicating with a board member at the shelter to see what she thinks. This poor guy spent over a month at the vet clinic, started on Lantus and could not get regulated so switched to PZI about a week ago. I will do more testing in the meantime. Thank you so much.

 

[Sue and Oliver (GA)]

If you are only getting preshots levels, he could be dropping very low at mid cycle and then bouncing back up. (A bounce is when the body perceives a lower number than normal and releases extra glucose, making the next test higher than normal.

You can see if the dose is too high by getting a test 5-7 hours after the shot. We consider a cat regulated if they are in the mid 200s at pre shot and in double digits at nadir (usually 5-7 hours after the shot) but not below 50 on a human meter, which is approaching hypo numbers.

A restart could certainly be in order. The dry could be elevating his numbers somewhat, but if he is dropping low mid cycle, he is on a roller coaster of highs and lows.

The protocol we put together for ProZinc is in my signature in blue.

 

[Rachel]

Would the board member at the shelter be willing to take a look at this board? We'd certainly be happy to speak with her and see if we could help her understand how ProZinc should be dosed!

 

[Yvonne & Andy &BJ (GA)]

Would the board member at the shelter be willing to take a look at this board? We'd certainly be happy to speak with her and see if we could help her understand how ProZinc should be dosed!

This morning he is 351. I gave the prescribed 6 units and will do a curve today. I only have Andy for 1+ days so not familiar with him yet. He is also on Tylan and probiotics for diarrhea. I will post this evening with the results on the prozinc thread. I also gave the link to the shelter. Thanks for helping.

 

[Sue and Oliver (GA)]

Please get a number midcycle so you will have some information for the vet.

Just for reference, the only cats we have on this forum getting 6 units twice daily have high dose conditions. No normal diabetic needs that much insulin. The vast majority of cats here get 1 or 2 units twice daily.

 

[Larry and Kitties]

ProZinc is a U40 insulin. So are you drawing up to the 6 unit marking on a U40 syringe (red cap). U100 syringes, used by humans have an orange cap and 6 units of ProZinc would be up to the 15 unit mark on a human syringe.

 

[Yvonne & Andy &BJ (GA)]

ProZinc is a U40 insulin. So are you drawing up to the 6 unit marking on a U40 syringe (red cap). U100 syringes, used by humans have an orange cap and 6 units of ProZinc would be up to the 15 unit mark on a human syringe.

Larry - yes, right now 6 units on U40 syringe. I plan to convert to U100 when he belongs to me. He is currently a foster.