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Good morning, Lucy! How are you & Squallie doing this morning? :)
Good morning to you, too! We are pretty good this AM. We made it safely thru the night, and before breakfast Squall's BG was 346. He ate well and got his morning shot, so I will monitor him thru the day. Poor guy's getting tired of having his ears poked, I may research how to do a test using a pad, although to me that seems like it would be even more painful.
 
You can apply Neosporin on his ears. I use regular Neosporin on his ears when I am testing a lot but I would use the Neosporin that has a little pain med in it (I can't remember the name). I just put a little on my finger and apply along the edges of his ear. When drawing blood, Neosporin will also bead up the blood nicely.
 
Poor guy's getting tired of having his ears poked, I may research how to do a test using a pad, although to me that seems like it would be even more painful.
Am so glad you're around to monitor through the day; I always feel for people who can't be home to do that. (Btw, when you get a minute could you add your morning dose to the spreadsheet?)

Re: Ear pokes - Yeah, at the beginning of Bat-Bat's treatment, I felt horrible about having to poke her, as she made it so obvious she hated it.
(Trying to squirm away, a little bit of squawking at the pin-prick.) But she got used to it fairly quickly - I alternate ears from test to test - and now she just crouches on the chair ("assumes the position") & acts like it's a normal part of life. There really aren't that many nerve endings at the edges of their ears; I would think that getting pricked on the paw-pads would hurt more ... but then, I have no experience with that option because Bat-Bat BITES if I try to touch her feet!:eek:
 
You can apply Neosporin on his ears. I use regular Neosporin on his ears when I am testing a lot but I would use the Neosporin that has a little pain med in it (I can't remember the name). I just put a little on my finger and apply along the edges of his ear. When drawing blood, Neosporin will also bead up the blood nicely.
Thank you for the advice, I will try that! Does it have to be Neosporin or will any triple antibiotic suffice? I know Squallie will try to wash his ears, it won't hurt if he ingests what he gets on his paws?
 
Am so glad you're around to monitor through the day; I always feel for people who can't be home to do that. (Btw, when you get a minute could you add your morning dose to the spreadsheet?)

Re: Ear pokes - Yeah, at the beginning of Bat-Bat's treatment, I felt horrible about having to poke her, as she made it so obvious she hated it.
(Trying to squirm away, a little bit of squawking at the pin-prick.) But she got used to it fairly quickly - I alternate ears from test to test - and now she just crouches on the chair ("assumes the position") & acts like it's a normal part of life. There really aren't that many nerve endings at the edges of their ears; I would think that getting pricked on the paw-pads would hurt more ... but then, I have no experience with that option because Bat-Bat BITES if I try to touch her feet!:eek:

Oops,sorry, thought I already had entered it, my bad!

Poor Squallie is such a good patient, but I know he hates it. I do everything I can to be quick and try not to hurt him, but he's been tested SO much over the last week that his ears are starting to bruise. He used to enjoy ear-rubs tremendously, now I'm afraid to rub his ears for fear I'll make them hurt. He also never purrs anymore, or pats me on the face, stuff like that he used to do to show me he was happy or feeling affection. It makes me so terribly sad :-(. I love him with all my heart.
 
He also never purrs anymore, or pats me on the face, stuff like that he used to do to show me he was happy or feeling affection. It makes me so terribly sad :-(. I love him with all my heart.
Aww, Lucy, I'm sorry you're feeling so low about that. It's hard on us when we're already worried because of the diabetes, and then we must do all these things to help that our kitties don't like & there's no way we can explain to them that it's for their own good. But trust me, he WILL become accustomed to all the things you must do to treat him effectively. His more affectionate behaviors will return as he starts feeling better.

Discomfort at ear-poke time is far better than what can result from a hypo episode - and thinking of that is what helped me stay strong, even though I was a "tower of Jello" at times, inside. You're doing just fine!:bighug:
 
Aww, Lucy, I'm sorry you're feeling so low about that. It's hard on us when we're already worried because of the diabetes, and then we must do all these things to help that our kitties don't like & there's no way we can explain to them that it's for their own good. But trust me, he WILL become accustomed to all the things you must do to treat him effectively. His more affectionate behaviors will return as he starts feeling better.

Discomfort at ear-poke time is far better than what can result from a hypo episode - and thinking of that is what helped me stay strong, even though I was a "tower of Jello" at times, inside. You're doing just fine!:bighug:

Thanks for the words of encouragement. I know I'm doing all the right things, I just wish he understood. Adding to the stress is the fact that we got a new Bengal kitty just before Squall was diagnosed, and no one has really accepted her yet, especially my other Bengal. So there's lots of growling (Bengals make the most AWFUL noises!) and running and carrying-on. Squallie stays out of it but it affects him just the same.
 
Hi Lucy,
Someone may have already mentioned this, but in case not - after the ear test, folding some tissue over the ear and holding for several seconds until you're sure it's stopped bleeding will help prevent bruises.
best,
Joan
Thanks , Joan, I do this every time but for some reason his left ear seems prone to bruising, more than his right. I'm thinking of trying a finer lancet to see if that helps.
 
I know this isn't about dosing issues, but I'm hoping someone here can help me with this. I need to find a low/no carb dry food that I can feed all 4 of my cats; i.e., affordable! Right now I'm feeding three different types of dry, each with it's own "specialty", and it's costing me a fortune. I just read something about Young Again No Carb and Innova Evo; if anyone has any knowledge of these, or any others, I'd really appreciate hearing it! Thanks!
 
Bat-Bat's ear have "toughened up" nicely since we restarted insulin in at end of Feb. But I must admit that after being in remission for nearly a year and a half, it was like starting all over again, ear-wise. (Should have seen the look I got when she saw that meter come out of the case the first time ...)
 
Bat-Bat's ear have "toughened up" nicely since we restarted insulin in at end of Feb. But I must admit that after being in remission for nearly a year and a half, it was like starting all over again, ear-wise. (Should have seen the look I got when she saw that meter come out of the case the first time ...)
Oh, I can well imagine. I get that look all the time! How long did it take before her ears "toughened up"?
 
I'd say ... about a month. Or maybe two weeks. She tolerated it better & better as the weeks went by.
 
I know this isn't about dosing issues, but I'm hoping someone here can help me with this. I need to find a low/no carb dry food that I can feed all 4 of my cats; i.e., affordable! Right now I'm feeding three different types of dry, each with it's own "specialty", and it's costing me a fortune. I just read something about Young Again No Carb and Innova Evo; if anyone has any knowledge of these, or any others, I'd really appreciate hearing it! Thanks!
Lucy,
You might want to start a new thread for this question. I'm afraid it will get lost here. I know there are lots of people here using both YA and Evo so you'll get plenty of feedback on a new thread.

Joan
 
LOL we were posting at the same time! Let me know if it's okay or you need anything else changed!
Melanie, I think I've done something to screw up the spreadsheet again :-( I don't know why but today's date-box turned black when I entered the info, and somehow the info line for the 6th has moved back up the list again! I swear I don't do this stuff on purpose, I don't know what I keep doing that causes all this havoc! BTW, I just last night noticed the second spreadsheet for the Alphatrak, thank you so much, it's lovely to have all the info in one place (I just need to fill it in, now)!
 
Melanie, I think I've done something to screw up the spreadsheet again :-( I don't know why but today's date-box turned black when I entered the info, and somehow the info line for the 6th has moved back up the list again! I swear I don't do this stuff on purpose, I don't know what I keep doing that causes all this havoc! BTW, I just last night noticed the second spreadsheet for the Alphatrak, thank you so much, it's lovely to have all the info in one place (I just need to fill it in, now)!

Hi Lucy,

Try entering your dates in the format 07/06/2015 instead of 7/6/2015. If the spreadsheet is glitching, the date format might be a possible reason why it's going doolally on you.
 
Hi Lucy,

Try entering your dates in the format 07/06/2015 instead of 7/6/2015. If the spreadsheet is glitching, the date format might be a possible reason why it's going doolally on you.
No joy :-(, still doing the same thing. I think I probably hit one of the "artsy" icons by accident but I don't seem to be able to resolve it, obviously my tablet is smarter than me, lol!
 
'fraid I'm a born-again techno- numpty. Can't help you with using sheets on a tablet (only use mine to view the spreadsheet, not to edit it). Maybe ask the person helping you (Melanie?) if they can do a date order sort on a copy of your spreadsheet to see if that might fix the problem.
 
Melanie, I think I've done something to screw up the spreadsheet again :-( I don't know why but today's date-box turned black when I entered the info, and somehow the info line for the 6th has moved back up the list again! I swear I don't do this stuff on purpose, I don't know what I keep doing that causes all this havoc! BTW, I just last night noticed the second spreadsheet for the Alphatrak, thank you so much, it's lovely to have all the info in one place (I just need to fill it in, now)!

LOL no worries Lucy. I will blame your bluetooth keyboard (or a Squallie having fun typing while you are asleep?). I have a few things to catch up on tonight but will have a look as soon as I'm done!
 
Sorry, couldn't help myself - had to go take a peek real quick make sure it wasn't something I did to mess you up!

I can't tell you what happened but it's fixed now. I also put in a formula that added all the dates in so you don't have to type it every day. If you don't like it or didn't want it that way just let me know and I can change it back!
 
and somehow the info line for the 6th has moved back up the list again!

Lucy can you tell me what this means? I didn't see any line for the 6th at all, not on either sheet, so I'm guessing it was never there. I've added a line for July 6 but wonder if you have the data? I'll try to track the history of changes to see if I can backtrack to your original sheet.
 
Never mind, I found it! July 6 went missing on or about July 22 (thank you Google Sheets for letting me track it down!). I'm not a big fan of revisionist history, but in this case I'll take it!

July 6 has been restored!:)
 
Thanks Áine! I'm happy to help! Poor Lucy has a renegade keyboard on her tablet, although I suspect it may actually be Squallie surfing in the wee hours …:joyful:

Lucy, have you checked your credit card statements to make sure Squallie hasn't ordered anything off Amazon when you weren't looking? ;)
 
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Ok, I did NOT post that twice. :banghead: Appears there is a ghost in my machine! (Has been happening a LOT.)
Perhaps whatever Lucy's tablet has is catching? :woot:
 
You can view the thread here. I'm so proud.

Oh, goody! Would you like another one? (Only kidding, I dearly love my wicked black kitty!) I told Bat-Bat that you complimented her. Then she bit me.

I'm sorry, that made me laugh out loud. Oooh, she is a wicked girl!!

Actually my boy Jet (aka French Fry, which is what my daughter calls him) is also a feral rescue and prone to …. toothy persuasion….
 
Thanks Áine! I'm happy to help! Poor Lucy has a renegade keyboard on her tablet, although I suspect it may actually be Squallie surfing in the wee hours …:joyful:

Lucy, have you checked your credit card statements to make sure Squallie hasn't ordered anything off Amazon when you weren't looking? ;)

So that's where the fancy new cat tree and all the new catnip toys came from, lol.....I'm on to him now!

Thanks so much for all you did to fix Squallie's spreadsheet! I would have thanked you earlier but my internet was out all evening - ah, the joys of country living!
 
You can view the thread here. I'm so proud.



I'm sorry, that made me laugh out loud. Oooh, she is a wicked girl!!

Actually my boy Jet (aka French Fry, which is what my daughter calls him) is also a feral rescue and prone to …. toothy persuasion….

Two of my cats chew everything they can get their mouths on, including fingers, toes and so forth. One loves to chew my fingernails, and the metal bristles on the slicker brush! Ouch! If there is anything - and I mean, ANYTHING - on the floor, no matter how small, they will eat it. They worry me too death!

I love black kitties, there's something about them that always says to me that they have information we all want and they're not sharing!
 
Hi, Lucy - Just checking in to see how Squallie's doing tonight. :)
Thanks for checking on him, Robin :-) He seems good tonight. His PMPS BG was only 219 and I was a little hesitant about giving him 7 units but I took a deep breath and gave it, figure it'll just be another long sleepless night of testing. But that's okay, if that's what it takes that's what we'll do!
Ok, I did NOT post that twice. :banghead: Appears there is a ghost in my machine! (Has been happening a LOT.)
Perhaps whatever Lucy's tablet has is catching? :woot:

Oh Nooooo.......!
 
I just discovered I am out of test strips! I won't be able to get any more until at least tomorrow evening, so I will have to rely on the Alphatrak in the meantime. I will make sure to post Squall's #'s on his Alphatrak spreadsheet.
 
He really doesn't want to transition to canned food, it's an uphill battle all the way. His canned food is all well under 10% carbs, not sure what the carbs with the ProPlan DM are.
Was reading through the above posts re: food ... Lucy, if you can't transition him out of eating kibble, please at least transition him from the Purina D/M dry to either of the two dry foods others have recommended (Evo or Young Again, I believe.) Because the D/M dry is @ 31% carbs, & you say he's eating about 3/4 cup of the D/M per day, right? (One of your earlier posts: He eats Fancy Feast or Friskie's pate' and ProPlan DM. I can only get him to eat about 1/2 can per day, 1/4 for breakfast and 1/4 for dinner. He much prefers the dry, and he gets that throughout the day, about 3/4 of a cup all told.)

Lucy, that amount of high-carb dry every day is really shooting you & Squallie in the foot. I'm feeling fairly certain that this is playing a significant role in his numbers not coming down as much as you'd like: Squallie's getting a dry food that's 3 times the max. amount of carb content that a diabetic cat should be consuming. (Not beating you up here, just encouraging you. It took me a while to wrap my head around all of this the first time around with Bat-Bat, too.o_O)

So if you must feed him dry at those times he refuses to eat any brand of low-carb canned, please transition him from the D/M kibble to a much lower-carb kibble. (Any extra cost will be cancelled out by less need for insulin over time.) Make that transition bit-by-bit, though - Ex: 75% DM/25% Young Again or Evo; then 50/50, then 25/75, etc., making sure you keep monitoring because his BG numbers will likely drop considerably (and his dosage of insulin will likely have to be reduced then, too).

Keep on keepin' on, Lucy ... Squallie will get there, I know: because I can see (even from this far away) how much you adore your kitty! :bighug:
 
Was reading through the above posts re: food ... Lucy, if you can't transition him out of eating kibble, please at least transition him from the Purina D/M dry to either of the two dry foods others have recommended (Evo or Young Again, I believe.) Because the D/M dry is @ 31% carbs, & you say he's eating about 3/4 cup of the D/M per day, right? (One of your earlier posts: He eats Fancy Feast or Friskie's pate' and ProPlan DM. I can only get him to eat about 1/2 can per day, 1/4 for breakfast and 1/4 for dinner. He much prefers the dry, and he gets that throughout the day, about 3/4 of a cup all told.)

Lucy, that amount of high-carb dry every day is really shooting you & Squallie in the foot. I'm feeling fairly certain that this is playing a significant role in his numbers not coming down as much as you'd like: Squallie's getting a dry food that's 3 times the max. amount of carb content that a diabetic cat should be consuming. (Not beating you up here, just encouraging you. It took me a while to wrap my head around all of this the first time around with Bat-Bat, too.o_O)

So if you must feed him dry at those times he refuses to eat any brand of low-carb canned, please transition him from the D/M kibble to a much lower-carb kibble. (Any extra cost will be cancelled out by less need for insulin over time.) Make that transition bit-by-bit, though - Ex: 75% DM/25% Young Again or Evo; then 50/50, then 25/75, etc., making sure you keep monitoring because his BG numbers will likely drop considerably (and his dosage of insulin will likely have to be reduced then, too).

Keep on keepin' on, Lucy ... Squallie will get there, I know: because I can see (even from this far away) how much you adore your kitty! :bighug:

A HUGE thank you for the heads-up! I was pretty sure I had heard that the DM was high in carbs but couldn't pin it down, so when my vet said that's what Squallie should be eating I just figured she knew better than me about good food/bad food for diabetic kitties! I have already done research on both Evo and Young Again and will be starting Squall, and all my babiies, on Evo as soon as it's delivered (the only thing I don't like about Evo is that it has a LOT of fruits/vegetables - I like the YA better but it's more difficult to get, where I live). I don't feel at all "beat up", lol, I really appreciate the advice and encouragement, and always want to do what's best for Squall and all my guys. I'm trying Tiki Cat canned because it says it has no carbs/no grains in most of it's formulas, but my goofy guys don't seem to care for it, either.

And yes, I do adore him, so very much. He's been my dearest friend and confidant for 16 years :-)
 
Did you get the black formatting in the units cell fixed? All you need to do is right click on that cell, then clear all formatting.
 
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